Official Anthony Edwards Thread

[AbeVigodaLive]

I just find it humorous that so many people were worried about him being another Wiggins over somewhat irrational reasons like he doesn't like watching basketball and it would just be really a big coincidence anyway if they wound up being similar. Then halfway through the season and.. . their stats are pretty similar. Like this outcome is really unlikely and at the same time, it's kind of happening which isn't great but again, is absolutely the type of thing that would happen to this team. Can't make this stuff up.

It doesn't matter as much to me what the rookie stats are in a season where both guys played on the WORST team in the league. It matters more where they go from there. How much they improve.

Personally, I think guaranteeing rookies on super bad teams who are just trying to figure out how to play 30 - 35 mpg builds as many bad habits as good ones (maybe more) if they're not held accountable.

The Wolves organization continues to give the world to its promising young hopefuls before they accomplish anything. And yet... we keep wondering why they don't work out as winners.

[AbeVigodaLive]

To be fair, he missed a layup and then two tips on one play late in the game. If he makes that layup he's 8-18 versus 7-20. Missing a layup and then two tip shots on the same possession is different than missing shots on 3 different possessions. This is even more of a stretch, but he also hit a midrange when he was called for kind of a weak offensive foul with his off hand (that stuff happens every drive... I mean watch Giannis) which would mean effectively 8-19 if you take out the fact that those extra 2 tip shots don't really hurt a team past the first layup miss.

I know you can't do that but I think he was a little bit better than his numbers tonight. To be fair to that end, 3 of his 9 rebounds came on that possession (offensive rebounds).

Meh. It's a make-or-miss league. Giving guys a pass for one possession in a season full of missed shots doesn't quite feel right. Edwards has a ton of talent. Obviously. He's done some really cool things. There's hope there.

But bottom line... he's been terribly inefficient as a shooter.

In 33 games...

- 13 games shooting below 32%.
- 2 games shooting above 50%.

In fact, I can't think of another player in the league with that sort of consistently inefficient shooting. Not even D. Graham (CHA) can match those numbers.

[RiRuHoops]

Edwards and Wiggins are oh so similar in rookie seasons. Look at per 100 possessions # advanced.

Ant passes a little more, but Wiggins had the edge in shooting %s.

And Wiggins had just as much chance to improve as Edwards does now. Wiggins didn't, but that doesn't mean Edwards won't.

Wolves have no history of developing players. KAT was good from the get go, he's still good and still has same shortcomings that were evident in his rookie year and still is an underachiever so far I'd say, Wiggins is a known story here, Culver no improvement as of yet, Okogie still trash. Let's not talk about busts of the past like D-Will and so on. Rubio didn't improve much here. The last guy that went against the grain is Love but he's similar to KAT.

Odds are stacked against Ant historically.

[Guidus88]

Edwards and Wiggins are oh so similar in rookie seasons. Look at per 100 possessions # advanced.

Ant passes a little more, but Wiggins had the edge in shooting %s.

And Wiggins had just as much chance to improve as Edwards does now. Wiggins didn't, but that doesn't mean Edwards won't.

Wolves have no history of developing players. KAT was good from the get go, he's still good and still has same shortcomings that were evident in his rookie year and still is an underachiever so far I'd say, Wiggins is a known story here, Culver no improvement as of yet, Okogie still trash. Let's not talk about busts of the past like D-Will and so on. Rubio didn't improve much here. The last guy that went against the grain is Love but he's similar to KAT.

Odds are stacked against Ant historically.

Actually Lavine had a lot of improvements while wearing a Twolves uniform, the same goes with Towns, Love, Pekovic.
Maybe we should just recognize that our expectation were too high compared to players talent (Wiggins, D.Will, Culver, Okogie, Bazz, Mccants, C. Brewer, KBD, Nowell, Foye etc.).

Please mention a former drafted Twolves player that had a notable impact in another NBA team in recent history (except Lavine and Love).

IMO the problem is not on Twolves development program, it is on Twolves scouting.

EDIT: anyway I'm sure that Edwards will be special, a lot of work to do, but he will be special.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Edwards and Wiggins are oh so similar in rookie seasons. Look at per 100 possessions # advanced.

Ant passes a little more, but Wiggins had the edge in shooting %s.

And Wiggins had just as much chance to improve as Edwards does now. Wiggins didn't, but that doesn't mean Edwards won't.

Wolves have no history of developing players. KAT was good from the get go, he's still good and still has same shortcomings that were evident in his rookie year and still is an underachiever so far I'd say, Wiggins is a known story here, Culver no improvement as of yet, Okogie still trash. Let's not talk about busts of the past like D-Will and so on. Rubio didn't improve much here. The last guy that went against the grain is Love but he's similar to KAT.

Odds are stacked against Ant historically.

Actually, Kevin Love excelled despite the Wolves trying to muck it up. Consider...

- The Wolves did not want him taking threes early in his career.
- In year 2... the Wolves had Love coming off the bench behind Darko Milicic AND Ryan Hollins.
- Read that previous sentence again.
- Finally, a full-time starter in year 3... Love didn't play more than 30 mpg for the first 7 games. When he finally got more run (38 mins) he went for 24/23. He immediately went back to 28 mins the next game... before exploding for 31/31 the next time he got big minutes. From that point on... he played at least 31 minutes in 36 straight games.
- Love became the first player in NBA history to be in the top 10 for Win Shares on losing teams... multiple times.
- The next season, Love made All NBA. Despite the Wolves sucking balls... he wanted to stay and sign a long-term deal. The Wolves said... NO.

Kevin Love had every right to want out by that point.

[RiRuHoops]

Actually Lavine had a lot of improvements while wearing a Twolves uniform, the same goes with Towns, Love, Pekovic.
Maybe we should just recognize that our expectation were too high compared to players talent (Wiggins, D.Will, Culver, Okogie, Bazz, Mccants, C. Brewer, KBD, Nowell, Foye etc.).

Please mention a former drafted Twolves player that had a notable impact in another NBA team in recent history (except Lavine and Love).

IMO the problem is not on Twolves development program, it is on Twolves scouting.

EDIT: anyway I'm sure that Edwards will be special, a lot of work to do, but he will be special.

No he didn't . He had marginal improvements at best from his 2nd to 3rd year. He was just given more minutes but still was a drain on the teams +/-. His per 100 possession numbers where basically identical during years #2 and #3.

And I already addressed Towns, not sure why you even mentioned him.

Wolves suck at developing players. Everybody knows it. Not sure why one would even argue that unless his name starts with K and ends with P.

[RiRuHoops]

And Wiggins had just as much chance to improve as Edwards does now. Wiggins didn't, but that doesn't mean Edwards won't.

Wolves have no history of developing players. KAT was good from the get go, he's still good and still has same shortcomings that were evident in his rookie year and still is an underachiever so far I'd say, Wiggins is a known story here, Culver no improvement as of yet, Okogie still trash. Let's not talk about busts of the past like D-Will and so on. Rubio didn't improve much here. The last guy that went against the grain is Love but he's similar to KAT.

Odds are stacked against Ant historically.

Actually, Kevin Love excelled despite the Wolves trying to muck it up. Consider...

- The Wolves did not want him taking threes early in his career.
- In year 2... the Wolves had Love coming off the bench behind Darko Milicic AND Ryan Hollins.
- Read that previous sentence again.
- Finally, a full-time starter in year 3... Love didn't play more than 30 mpg for the first 7 games. When he finally got more run (38 mins) he went for 24/23. He immediately went back to 28 mins the next game... before exploding for 31/31 the next time he got big minutes. From that point on... he played at least 31 minutes in 36 straight games.
- Love became the first player in NBA history to be in the top 10 for Win Shares on losing teams... multiple times.
- The next season, Love made All NBA. Despite the Wolves sucking balls... he wanted to stay and sign a long-term deal. The Wolves said... NO.

Kevin Love had every right to want out by that point.

LOL, I even forgot about those details. SMH.

[Jedzz]

And Wiggins had just as much chance to improve as Edwards does now. Wiggins didn't, but that doesn't mean Edwards won't.

Wolves have no history of developing players. KAT was good from the get go, he's still good and still has same shortcomings that were evident in his rookie year and still is an underachiever so far I'd say, Wiggins is a known story here, Culver no improvement as of yet, Okogie still trash. Let's not talk about busts of the past like D-Will and so on. Rubio didn't improve much here. The last guy that went against the grain is Love but he's similar to KAT.

Odds are stacked against Ant historically.

Actually, Kevin Love excelled despite the Wolves trying to muck it up. Consider...

- The Wolves did not want him taking threes early in his career.
- In year 2... the Wolves had Love coming off the bench behind Darko Milicic AND Ryan Hollins.
- Read that previous sentence again.
- Finally, a full-time starter in year 3... Love didn't play more than 30 mpg for the first 7 games. When he finally got more run (38 mins) he went for 24/23. He immediately went back to 28 mins the next game... before exploding for 31/31 the next time he got big minutes. From that point on... he played at least 31 minutes in 36 straight games.
- Love became the first player in NBA history to be in the top 10 for Win Shares on losing teams... multiple times.
- The next season, Love made All NBA. Despite the Wolves sucking balls... he wanted to stay and sign a long-term deal. The Wolves said... NO.

Kevin Love had every right to want out by that point.

Well sure. No doubt the Wolves made their own mistakes. He wanted the 5 year deal back when you couldn't have multiple. He got and took the 4 year offer and then asked out. There is no guarantee he wouldn't have immediately pushed out with the 5 year deal. He was also openly threatening for three years prior to that deal. He's been at Cleveland a long time now, but he's angled more then once to get out of there and just doesn't have the court play, health, or pull that he once had. Especially after they ponied up a big contract for him and he took it.

It's all too bad. He would have helped this team during a number of the years since. (if he played)

[AbeVigodaLive]

Wolves have no history of developing players. KAT was good from the get go, he's still good and still has same shortcomings that were evident in his rookie year and still is an underachiever so far I'd say, Wiggins is a known story here, Culver no improvement as of yet, Okogie still trash. Let's not talk about busts of the past like D-Will and so on. Rubio didn't improve much here. The last guy that went against the grain is Love but he's similar to KAT.

Odds are stacked against Ant historically.

Actually, Kevin Love excelled despite the Wolves trying to muck it up. Consider...

- The Wolves did not want him taking threes early in his career.
- In year 2... the Wolves had Love coming off the bench behind Darko Milicic AND Ryan Hollins.
- Read that previous sentence again.
- Finally, a full-time starter in year 3... Love didn't play more than 30 mpg for the first 7 games. When he finally got more run (38 mins) he went for 24/23. He immediately went back to 28 mins the next game... before exploding for 31/31 the next time he got big minutes. From that point on... he played at least 31 minutes in 36 straight games.
- Love became the first player in NBA history to be in the top 10 for Win Shares on losing teams... multiple times.
- The next season, Love made All NBA. Despite the Wolves sucking balls... he wanted to stay and sign a long-term deal. The Wolves said... NO.

Kevin Love had every right to want out by that point.

Well sure. No doubt the Wolves made their own mistakes. He wanted the 5 year deal back when you couldn't have multiple. He got and took the 4 year offer and then asked out. There is no guarantee he wouldn't have immediately pushed out with the 5 year deal. He was also openly threatening for three years prior to that deal. He's been at Cleveland a long time now, but he's angled more then once to get out of there and just doesn't have the court play, health, or pull that he once had. Especially after they ponied up a big contract for him and he took it.

It's all too bad. He would have helped this team during a number of the years since. (if he played)

The Wolves saving that contract for Rubio ended up another poor decision.

[Jedzz]

Well sure. No doubt the Wolves made their own mistakes. He wanted the 5 year deal back when you couldn't have multiple. He got and took the 4 year offer and then asked out. There is no guarantee he wouldn't have immediately pushed out with the 5 year deal. He was also openly threatening for three years prior to that deal. He's been at Cleveland a long time now, but he's angled more then once to get out of there and just doesn't have the court play, health, or pull that he once had. Especially after they ponied up a big contract for him and he took it.

It's all too bad. He would have helped this team during a number of the years since. (if he played)

The Wolves saving that contract for Rubio ended up another poor decision.

Probably, yes. I do think that was the talk at the time. How would they keep Rubio if they gave it to Love. Mistake alright. Wasn't too long after teams were stacking max deals. It's also nice when the team can actually evaluate players they see in the gym each day, to know what they actually are or are not. I always come back to paying the players that have already proven who they can be. I would have offered Love the 5 but the deal would have had poisen pills in it for if he tried to push out. If he would have signed one of those, fine. The quiet threats he would slip into words to the media constantly are probably why everyone was already concerned about Towns even a month after he signed a max here and before it even started paying him off that new deal. The conversations already started. Gunshy fanbase after that one.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Well sure. No doubt the Wolves made their own mistakes. He wanted the 5 year deal back when you couldn't have multiple. He got and took the 4 year offer and then asked out. There is no guarantee he wouldn't have immediately pushed out with the 5 year deal. He was also openly threatening for three years prior to that deal. He's been at Cleveland a long time now, but he's angled more then once to get out of there and just doesn't have the court play, health, or pull that he once had. Especially after they ponied up a big contract for him and he took it.

It's all too bad. He would have helped this team during a number of the years since. (if he played)

The Wolves saving that contract for Rubio ended up another poor decision.

Probably, yes. I do think that was the talk at the time. How would they keep Rubio if they gave it to Love. Mistake alright. Wasn't too long after teams were stacking max deals. It's also nice when the team can actually evaluate players they see in the gym each day, to know what they actually are or are not. I always come back to paying the players that have already proven who they can be. I would have offered Love the 5 but the deal would have had poisen pills in it for if he tried to push out. If he would have signed one of those, fine. The quiet threats he would slip into words to the media constantly are probably why everyone was already concerned about Towns even a month after he signed a max here and before it even started paying him off that new deal. The conversations already started. Gunshy fanbase after that one.

We'll never know for sure... but we do know Love wanted a 5-year deal to stay... and was insulted when he was told it was being "saved" for an inferior teammate.

I think the Wolves made their own bed on that one.

Besides... players weren't asking out nearly as early on contracts as today. Love had a 3-year deal... which meant he could request out after two years. If it was a 5-year-deal, it's most likely the Wolves kept him for at least 2x as long as they did. Even Glen Taylor admitted it was a mistake not giving him the deal in hindsight.

[Baseline81]

Would be thrilled if Edwards and Towns could develop chemistry like this:

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[Klomp]

Would be thrilled if Edwards and Towns could develop chemistry like this:

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It's coming....

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[TheDominator273]

Would be thrilled if Edwards and Towns could develop chemistry like this:

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If KAT and Ant can develop the type of chemistry that JMac and Naz have they will be an insane PNR duo. Ant's ability to get downhill and put pressure on the rim is what separates him in that action from DLo.

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[Shaka_Zulu]

[Neeva]

If he is gonna be a damn chucker he needs to get to the damn free throw line 10-12 times a game and hit them at over 80 percent, come on man!

[Rookie-Mistake]

I'm watching this Hornets game and boy oh boy did we screw this draft pick up!

Lamelo is hands down a mile a head of Edwards

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[jpatrick]

I'm watching this Hornets game and boy oh boy did we screw this draft pick up!

Lamelo is hands down a mile a head of Edwards

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I was such a Ball guy predraft and he’s exceeded all my expectations. When that body fills out and you have a 6’7” Trae Young, which is really what he is, you’ll have a top 5-10 player in the NBA. I probably need to stop watching the rest of the year. Rosas came into a not great situation and made it 100x worse. Until there’s a change up top, I don’t see how I can generate any excitement for the team. I just don’t see a future.