HeartBreakKid wrote:M4P wrote:Pg81 wrote:
I seriously doubt that you have even remotely an inkling of a clue how much experience and skill matters in any environment.
Lol? Let's hear it then. Do you even train? There's a reason why guys like Ngannou, early Jones, and Nick Rodriguez dominate without much time on the mats. Athleticism matters. Size matters. A blue belt Zion is ragdolling most black belt hobbyist bjj players and would wreck most amateur mma competitors at his weight. Conor at 5'9, 180 is getting taken out by a blue belt Zion.
That's great but Zion Williams doesn't have a blue belt. You're saying that if Zion Williams knew how to fight he could beat a fighter...but he doesn't know how to fight. Blue belt these days takes like two years to get at a good school, not exactly something you can learn overnight. A year at best if his sensei isn't a stiffler about promotions and he trains a ton a week.
As for your example - Ngannou doesn't dominate people on the floor and has never been a good jiu jitsu guy. Unless if you meant by mat you did not mean grappling, in which case Ngannou had a boxing background before he transferred over into MMA, and actually he lost very early in his career simply because he lacked experience.
Jon Jones and Nick Rodriguez had wrestling backgrounds before crossing over into MMA and Sub Wrestling. Several years of wrestling is essentially a high level belt in a martial art.
Zion Williams has a few basketball games in the NCAA and NBA. Not exactly comparable. Yes, if Zion had two years of training he'd be pretty good, but you're still underestimating how long it takes for guys to get good at fighting. There are pro NFL players who have decent careers in MMA but only really become decent after they had a few years and their reputation protected by good booking. Even then none of them have ever been that close to dominant or a serious contender.
You’re taking these fools too seriously my man and I’m pretty sure Jon Jones had a scholarship for wrestling