Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go

[bbd24]

All these Ainge defenders tell you is "The Jays!" and "ECF 3 out of 4 years!"

Wow. Didn't know we're trying to be the Philly Eagles of the early 2000s? Besides, the east has been weak sauce for years. I don't wanna hear how impressive it was to beat the lowly Wizards or the Raptors. If this team had been in the west lol, good luck!

This team is not competing for a title as currently constituted, and the sad thing is, the crap Danny has drafted and guys he's signed will not put this team over the top even if they do develop. Meaning all the assets he's had and players he's had the opportunity to hold onto, or acquire, he's completely botched. Bad decisions left and right.

TPE is all he has left and a bunch of mid round picks. Don't tell me about freaking Grant Williams or PP. These guys are not on anyone's radar other than MAYBE Rob.

Danny has had his chances and has done a poor job constructing a roster to compete for a title. Defending this bad roster leaves Danny free from accountability, and only ensures what will likely be more bad decisions from him down the line.

Sorry Charlie, that’s not just a 4 yr resume. He’s got 18 years of greatness at GM. He truly is one of, if not the smartest GM’s around.

[bbd24]

Maybe Ainge can trade himself to the kings for Joe Kleine to be our new GM.

God what I wouldn’t give to be the Kings....

This fan base couldn’t take a 3 game losing skid. What would happen if you lost 9 games in a row like the Kings ?

[GoGreen]

All these Ainge defenders tell you is "The Jays!" and "ECF 3 out of 4 years!"

Wow. Didn't know we're trying to be the Philly Eagles of the early 2000s? Besides, the east has been weak sauce for years. I don't wanna hear how impressive it was to beat the lowly Wizards or the Raptors. If this team had been in the west lol, good luck!

This team is not competing for a title as currently constituted, and the sad thing is, the crap Danny has drafted and guys he's signed will not put this team over the top even if they do develop. Meaning all the assets he's had and players he's had the opportunity to hold onto, or acquire, he's completely botched. Bad decisions left and right.

TPE is all he has left and a bunch of mid round picks. Don't tell me about freaking Grant Williams or PP. These guys are not on anyone's radar other than MAYBE Rob.

Danny has had his chances and has done a poor job constructing a roster to compete for a title. Defending this bad roster leaves Danny free from accountability, and only ensures what will likely be more bad decisions from him down the line.

Sorry Charlie, that’s not just a 4 yr resume. He’s got 18 years of greatness at GM. He truly is one of, if not the smartest GM’s around.

The fact he's had 18 years only hurts his case. 18 years and this is the best he can do?

And imagine if McHale didn't do his buddy a solid. Ainge has never proven he can build a competitor through the draft... in 18 years. And now he has flimsy assets to build around the Jays.

[bbd24]

All these Ainge defenders tell you is "The Jays!" and "ECF 3 out of 4 years!"

Wow. Didn't know we're trying to be the Philly Eagles of the early 2000s? Besides, the east has been weak sauce for years. I don't wanna hear how impressive it was to beat the lowly Wizards or the Raptors. If this team had been in the west lol, good luck!

This team is not competing for a title as currently constituted, and the sad thing is, the crap Danny has drafted and guys he's signed will not put this team over the top even if they do develop. Meaning all the assets he's had and players he's had the opportunity to hold onto, or acquire, he's completely botched. Bad decisions left and right.

TPE is all he has left and a bunch of mid round picks. Don't tell me about freaking Grant Williams or PP. These guys are not on anyone's radar other than MAYBE Rob.

Danny has had his chances and has done a poor job constructing a roster to compete for a title. Defending this bad roster leaves Danny free from accountability, and only ensures what will likely be more bad decisions from him down the line.

Sorry Charlie, that’s not just a 4 yr resume. He’s got 18 years of greatness at GM. He truly is one of, if not the smartest GM’s around.

The fact he's had 18 years only hurts his case. 18 years and this is the best he can do?

And imagine if McHale didn't do his buddy a solid. Ainge has never proven he can build a competitor through the draft... in 18 years. And now he has flimsy assets to build around the Jays.

You just came off of 3 conf finals trips ???? Everyone wants a championship but gimme a break. You’re talking like he’s been bottom of the league the past 5 years.

Afraid not. You know why ? You give a GM like this a top 5 pick just once, that’s the last you see being a bottom feeder.

Fortunately, we have him and Wyc is smarter than message board posters.

[GoGreen]

Sorry Charlie, that’s not just a 4 yr resume. He’s got 18 years of greatness at GM. He truly is one of, if not the smartest GM’s around.

The fact he's had 18 years only hurts his case. 18 years and this is the best he can do?

And imagine if McHale didn't do his buddy a solid. Ainge has never proven he can build a competitor through the draft... in 18 years. And now he has flimsy assets to build around the Jays.

You just came off of 3 conf finals trips ???? Everyone wants a championship but gimme a break. You’re talking like he’s been bottom of the league the past 5 years.

Afraid not. You know why ? You give a GM like this a top 5 pick just once, that’s the last you see being a bottom feeder.

Fortunately, we have him and Wyc is smarter than message board posters.

Dude the east has sucked i don't want to hear about conference finals. Besides, this team should be ASCENDING not getting worse. The timeline was to get better with all these assets by now. But where are we and where is this team going? A long resume doesn't equate to winning

With the assortment of assets he's had, if Danny is as smart as you say he is, this team wouldn't be so filled with crap on the roster. Hayward, Horford, Rozier, Kyrie (and the 3rd BRK pick), Marcus Morris; all gone and mostly for nothing. No Myles Turner or Doug McDermott. And potentially nothing if Danny doesn't use this TPE. And who tf knows what he'll even get for it. Other teams have more to give than we do. Danny put us in a bad spot. I don't trust him to get us out of it. I hope he does, I just am not confident.

[CelticsLV]

Sorry Charlie, that’s not just a 4 yr resume. He’s got 18 years of greatness at GM. He truly is one of, if not the smartest GM’s around.

The fact he's had 18 years only hurts his case. 18 years and this is the best he can do?

And imagine if McHale didn't do his buddy a solid. Ainge has never proven he can build a competitor through the draft... in 18 years. And now he has flimsy assets to build around the Jays.

You just came off of 3 conf finals trips ???? Everyone wants a championship but gimme a break. You’re talking like he’s been bottom of the league the past 5 years.

Afraid not. You know why ? You give a GM like this a top 5 pick just once, that’s the last you see being a bottom feeder.

Fortunately, we have him and Wyc is smarter than message board posters.

Look how we robbed the Nets, we drafted Tatum + Brown with their picks! LOL at the Nets! Raptors are hanging division banners! Oh wait... Nets are basically the favorites to win it all before the Celtics, Raptors recently won a title. Meanwhile Celtics fans are hanging ECF banners

How tables have turned.

[soxfan2003]

Sorry Charlie, that’s not just a 4 yr resume. He’s got 18 years of greatness at GM. He truly is one of, if not the smartest GM’s around.

The fact he's had 18 years only hurts his case. 18 years and this is the best he can do?

And imagine if McHale didn't do his buddy a solid. Ainge has never proven he can build a competitor through the draft... in 18 years. And now he has flimsy assets to build around the Jays.

You just came off of 3 conf finals trips ???? Everyone wants a championship but gimme a break. You’re talking like he’s been bottom of the league the past 5 years.

Afraid not. You know why ? You give a GM like this a top 5 pick just once, that’s the last you see being a bottom feeder.

Fortunately, we have him and Wyc is smarter than message board posters.

It is a fair question to wonder where Ainge would be now if McHale hadn't been named general manager of the Timber Wolves. I strongly believe without that relationship and without McHale's Celtics ties, Kevin Garnett ends up elsewhere. It may not have even been LA, it could have been a place like Chicago or elsewhere a season earlier.

Without that KG trade, there is no Nets trade in all likelihood so no Tatum/Brown. But without the Nets trade and without the KG trade, Ainge probably sells off Paul Pierce to the highest bidder a year or two earlier than he brought it KG/RA.

I am very APPRECIATIVE of Kevin McHale who bled green and was willing to play with a broken foot in 87. McHale obviously wanted Kevin Garnett on the Celtics if he couldn't win with him on the Timber Wolves. McHale can obviously never say this.

So, the other person to thank besides McHale.....I hate to say it is Joe Smith's agent and David Stern. Without David Stern screwing over the Wolves by penalizing them way too much for the Joe Smith fiasco/illegal signing, maybe the Wolves would have won enough games where they decided it made sense to keep KG.

I am sure Ainge/Celtics are not the only team to benefit from an ex player named general manager of another team doing his former club a huge favor. McHale didn't play with a broken foot vs LA in 87 to gift them KG 20 years later.

In McHale's shoes, the Lakers bid would have had to be twice as good as the Celtics for me to even consider accepting it. I suspect McHale thought the same thing. Younger fans under 40 probably don't have full appreciation of how big the Celtics/Lakers/Philly rivalries were.

I just don't believe any statement from McHale or anyone else that overemphasizes Wolves not wanting to trade within their own division. Wolves were rebuilding and at best they would probably be very good in 3-4 years and by then KG not expected to be a as big of factor for that long at least. I suspect multiple people in Wolves organization and not just McHale didn't like the Lakers given their success with Shaq and possibly getting away with much more consequential illegal tampering themselves.

[bbd24]

The fact he's had 18 years only hurts his case. 18 years and this is the best he can do?

And imagine if McHale didn't do his buddy a solid. Ainge has never proven he can build a competitor through the draft... in 18 years. And now he has flimsy assets to build around the Jays.

You just came off of 3 conf finals trips ???? Everyone wants a championship but gimme a break. You’re talking like he’s been bottom of the league the past 5 years.

Afraid not. You know why ? You give a GM like this a top 5 pick just once, that’s the last you see being a bottom feeder.

Fortunately, we have him and Wyc is smarter than message board posters.

Dude the east has sucked i don't want to hear about conference finals. Besides, this team should be ASCENDING not getting worse. The timeline was to get better with all these assets by now. But where are we and where is this team going? A long resume doesn't equate to winning

With the assortment of assets he's had, if Danny is as smart as you say he is, this team wouldn't be so filled with crap on the roster. Hayward, Horford, Rozier, Kyrie (and the 3rd BRK pick), Marcus Morris; all gone and mostly for nothing. No Myles Turner or Doug McDermott. And potentially nothing if Danny doesn't use this TPE. And who tf knows what he'll even get for it. Other teams have more to give than we do. Danny put us in a bad spot. I don't trust him to get us out of it. I hope he does, I just am not confident.

You’re upset because you EXPECT finals, trophy’s. That’s because your GM has put you in that position time and time again. The one COVID year where you aren’t where you EXPECT to be, you immediately fire the GM ?

No, sorry, not a smart move and would never happen in the real world. He’s been too darn good. He’s not going anywhere. Talents like Brown,Tatum, Smart, Robert Williams.........prove the point time and time again.

And btw, it’s still early. Let’s see what happens the rest of the year. I for sure ain’t counting this team out in the East. That would be asinine. Too talented. All hand picked by the GM you want to fire. LOL

[bbd24]

The fact he's had 18 years only hurts his case. 18 years and this is the best he can do?

And imagine if McHale didn't do his buddy a solid. Ainge has never proven he can build a competitor through the draft... in 18 years. And now he has flimsy assets to build around the Jays.

You just came off of 3 conf finals trips ???? Everyone wants a championship but gimme a break. You’re talking like he’s been bottom of the league the past 5 years.

Afraid not. You know why ? You give a GM like this a top 5 pick just once, that’s the last you see being a bottom feeder.

Fortunately, we have him and Wyc is smarter than message board posters.

It is a fair question to wonder where Ainge would be now if McHale hadn't been named general manager of the Timber Wolves. I strongly believe without that relationship and without McHale's Celtics ties, Kevin Garnett ends up elsewhere. It may not have even been LA, it could have been a place like Chicago or elsewhere a season earlier.

Without that KG trade, there is no Nets trade in all likelihood so no Tatum/Brown. But without the Nets trade and without the KG trade, Ainge probably sells off Paul Pierce to the highest bidder a year or two earlier than he brought it KG/RA.

I am very APPRECIATIVE of Kevin McHale who bled green and was willing to play with a broken foot in 87. McHale obviously wanted Kevin Garnett on the Celtics if he couldn't win with him on the Timber Wolves. McHale can obviously never say this.

So, the other person to thank besides McHale.....I hate to say it is Joe Smith's agent and David Stern. Without David Stern screwing over the Wolves by penalizing them way too much for the Joe Smith fiasco/illegal signing, maybe the Wolves would have won enough games where they decided it made sense to keep KG.

I am sure Ainge/Celtics are not the only team to benefit from an ex player named general manager of another team doing his former club a huge favor. McHale didn't play with a broken foot vs LA in 87 to gift them KG 20 years later.

In McHale's shoes, the Lakers bid would have had to be twice as good as the Celtics for me to even consider accepting it. I suspect McHale thought the same thing. Younger fans under 40 probably don't have full appreciation of how big the Celtics/Lakers/Philly rivalries were.

I just don't believe any statement from McHale or anyone else that overemphasizes Wolves not wanting to trade within their own division. Wolves were rebuilding and at best they would probably be very good in 3-4 years and by then KG not expected to be a as big of factor for that long at least. I suspect multiple people in Wolves organization and not just McHale didn't like the Lakers given their success with Shaq and possibly getting away with much more consequential illegal tampering themselves.

Would’ve, could’ve, should’ve......All I know is what happened. Your GM got you Ray, KG, and kept Paul. Yet some in the fan base want to doubt him.

Don’t do it. You did it before KG got here. Don’t make that same mistake. You’ve seen him do too much.

[Bleeding Green]

You just came off of 3 conf finals trips ???? Everyone wants a championship but gimme a break. You’re talking like he’s been bottom of the league the past 5 years.

Afraid not. You know why ? You give a GM like this a top 5 pick just once, that’s the last you see being a bottom feeder.

Fortunately, we have him and Wyc is smarter than message board posters.

Dude the east has sucked i don't want to hear about conference finals. Besides, this team should be ASCENDING not getting worse. The timeline was to get better with all these assets by now. But where are we and where is this team going? A long resume doesn't equate to winning

With the assortment of assets he's had, if Danny is as smart as you say he is, this team wouldn't be so filled with crap on the roster. Hayward, Horford, Rozier, Kyrie (and the 3rd BRK pick), Marcus Morris; all gone and mostly for nothing. No Myles Turner or Doug McDermott. And potentially nothing if Danny doesn't use this TPE. And who tf knows what he'll even get for it. Other teams have more to give than we do. Danny put us in a bad spot. I don't trust him to get us out of it. I hope he does, I just am not confident.

You’re upset because you EXPECT finals, trophy’s. That’s because your GM has put you in that position time and time again. The one COVID year where you aren’t where you EXPECT to be, you immediately fire the GM ?

No, sorry, not a smart move and would never happen in the real world. He’s been too darn good. He’s not going anywhere. Talents like Brown,Tatum, Smart, Robert Williams.........prove the point time and time again.

And btw, it’s still early. Let’s see what happens the rest of the year. I for sure ain’t counting this team out in the East. That would be asinine. Too talented. All hand picked by the GM you want to fire. LOL

Sometimes it's good to take like one step back and look at the standings and look at all that has gone wrong for the Celtics. They have SUCKED, Tatum has missed a couple weeks to COVID and is still not 100 pct, Smart has missed half the season so far with more injury time still to come, Kemba has missed half the season and been brutal in like 70% of the games he's played. And still they are tied for the 4 seed in the loss column. It's hard to imagine the season going worse. This season has been so unfun, bad, brutal to watch. Still the same number of losses as the four seed.

[bbd24]

Dude the east has sucked i don't want to hear about conference finals. Besides, this team should be ASCENDING not getting worse. The timeline was to get better with all these assets by now. But where are we and where is this team going? A long resume doesn't equate to winning

With the assortment of assets he's had, if Danny is as smart as you say he is, this team wouldn't be so filled with crap on the roster. Hayward, Horford, Rozier, Kyrie (and the 3rd BRK pick), Marcus Morris; all gone and mostly for nothing. No Myles Turner or Doug McDermott. And potentially nothing if Danny doesn't use this TPE. And who tf knows what he'll even get for it. Other teams have more to give than we do. Danny put us in a bad spot. I don't trust him to get us out of it. I hope he does, I just am not confident.

You’re upset because you EXPECT finals, trophy’s. That’s because your GM has put you in that position time and time again. The one COVID year where you aren’t where you EXPECT to be, you immediately fire the GM ?

No, sorry, not a smart move and would never happen in the real world. He’s been too darn good. He’s not going anywhere. Talents like Brown,Tatum, Smart, Robert Williams.........prove the point time and time again.

And btw, it’s still early. Let’s see what happens the rest of the year. I for sure ain’t counting this team out in the East. That would be asinine. Too talented. All hand picked by the GM you want to fire. LOL

Sometimes it's good to take like one step back and look at the standings and look at all that has gone wrong for the Celtics. They have SUCKED, Tatum has missed a couple weeks to COVID and is still not 100 pct, Smart has missed half the season so far with more injury time still to come, Kemba has missed half the season and been brutal in like 70% of the games he's played. And still they are tied for the 4 seed in the loss column. It's hard to imagine the season going worse. This season has been so unfun, bad, brutal to watch. Still the same number of losses as the four seed.

And having said that, they’ve still played 22 crunch time games. TWENTY-TWO.

What happens when things turn around and guys like Kemba are back at full strength ?

[Fierce1]

Ainge can make the Celts fun to watch again if he gets rid of some of the garbage on the Celtic roster.

The game against the Wiz really made my blood pressure rise.

Grant Williams is just not very bright.

[BK_2020]

I think enough time has passed for us to say Payton Pritchard is a bust and will be out of the league by the end of March, no?

[ddb]

I would say that Boston has responded fairly well despite playing shorthanded the past couple games. When Indy was up 18-4 I thought to myself, "wow, it might really be time for major changes to the coaching staff and front office" then Kemba stepped up and has played well ever since, and the team has responded with 2 wins. So that's a good sign. Growing problems....I still think with Smart coming back and hopefully with a reinforcement via TPE (Kanter TPE or portion of Hayward TPE) that the Celtics can get back into this thing and make noise.
It really comes down to Kemba playing like he has the past 2 games, the J's, Smart being healthy, and Ainge adding a solid piece to the rotation. What this team is missing is Hayward.....And since Ainge isn't going to be able to bring in a Hayward caliber piece, I think he at minimum needs to bring in a rotation piece that can bolster the wing depth. That'll work wonders....someone reliable and durable. Something Hayward was not.

[Stadium5]

Yeah and they wasted it on James Wiseman.

Celtics don't attract free agents except for Horford, Hayward, Walker.

"wasted it on wiseman" lol

I bet you get excited over grant williams and ojeleye

[bbd24]

I would say that Boston has responded fairly well despite playing shorthanded the past couple games. When Indy was up 18-4 I thought to myself, "wow, it might really be time for major changes to the coaching staff and front office" then Kemba stepped up and has played well ever since, and the team has responded with 2 wins. So that's a good sign. Growing problems....I still think with Smart coming back and hopefully with a reinforcement via TPE (Kanter TPE or portion of Hayward TPE) that the Celtics can get back into this thing and make noise.
It really comes down to Kemba playing like he has the past 2 games, the J's, Smart being healthy, and Ainge adding a solid piece to the rotation. What this team is missing is Hayward.....And since Ainge isn't going to be able to bring in a Hayward caliber piece, I think he at minimum needs to bring in a rotation piece that can bolster the wing depth. That'll work wonders....someone reliable and durable. Something Hayward was not.

I think you’re spot on. Kemba has to be Kemba, your two young studs have to play better, and Smart needs to gets healthy. All those things happen and you’re contending in the East.

Does Ainge have to add a piece ? Obviously, he’s trying to do just that. But he’s never just made a deal to save a year like this. He’s still going to be patient. With this COVID year being so crazy, he has to wait it out until the right piece comes forward. I’m not sure that piece exists at this point.

If it’s me, I’m checking the market on Brown. We have Tatum at that ball stopper spot, now it’s time to see how many players we can get in that exchange that can help.

[playa-hater]

Let's go back 2 years in time. Boston was in the semi finals "2 of 3" years. Lost with the Kyrie debacle. But for the most part was a legit NBA playoff team with 2 already emerging stars (the Js) GH and Smart at least.

Then imagine having 6 1st RD picks with 2 being mid-lottery picks (14+14) and 2 more second rders coming.

Then fast forward to now. We have ZERO production from 2019 +2020

14 Romeo Langford
22 Grant Williams
32 Carsen Edwards
46 Tremont Waters

then in 2020

14 - A Nesmith - the invisible man
26 - PP - make him a SG to let Kemba + Teague run PG
30 - traded D Bane (shooting 48 and 46% for the season)
48 - stash player

Most would have guessed/hoped/expected 2 years later we would be a strong contender! Am I right?

Now imagine any other decent playoff team 2 years ago. GS, Hou, Utah, LAL, LAC, Por, Denver, Toronto, Philly, Bucks, Miami etc, being gifted 6 1st rders (2 lottery) and 2 more 2nd rders.

Can anyone imagine those teams being 500% after that? At the very least I would have expected the other teams to have more draft production based on their recent draft history or at the least used the draft capitol to make significant trades.

Can anyone even phantom that Boston went from so much talent and assets to "we should tank the season" this year in only 2 years.

Does anyone think the other teams would have so many fans supporting our Coach/GM as much?? I'd bet heads would have rolled for many of those teams.

If fans here can be truly honest (and I wonder) they should look back at this and say, this was a Clear, Epic and Horrible Failing by both our coach and GM to have put this team in this situation. making matters worse, we're stuck in either trading future assets this year or even more next summer just to get back to where we should gave been.

One last question. Is there anyone here actually enjoying this season so far?

[return2glory]

Brandon Clarke, S. Bey and Bane could have easily been Celtics over the past 2 drafts. That’s talent.

Romeo Langford and Aaron Nesmith currently are hurting Ainge’s status as a top 5-7 GM. I still think both these guys can turn out to be good players or busts.

At this point I don’t ever expect to see Romeo play another NBA game. Guard version of Sam Bowie. He has missed more games than he has played.

Right now things aren’t looking too good for Danny.

[Fencer reregistered]

Let's go back 2 years in time. Boston was in the semi finals "2 of 3" years. Lost with the Kyrie debacle. But for the most part was a legit NBA playoff team with 2 already emerging stars (the Js) GH and Smart at least.

Then imagine having 6 1st RD picks with 2 being mid-lottery picks (14+14) and 2 more second rders coming.

Then fast forward to now. We have ZERO production from 2019 +2020

14 Romeo Langford
22 Grant Williams
32 Carsen Edwards
46 Tremont Waters

then in 2020

14 - A Nesmith - the invisible man
26 - PP - make him a SG to let Kemba + Teague run PG
30 - traded D Bane (shooting 48 and 46% for the season)
48 - stash player

Most would have guessed/hoped/expected 2 years later we would be a strong contender! Am I right?

Now imagine any other decent playoff team 2 years ago. GS, Hou, Utah, LAL, LAC, Por, Denver, Toronto, Philly, Bucks, Miami etc, being gifted 6 1st rders (2 lottery) and 2 more 2nd rders.

Can anyone imagine those teams being 500% after that? At the very least I would have expected the other teams to have more draft production based on their recent draft history or at the least used the draft capitol to make significant trades.

Can anyone even phantom that Boston went from so much talent and assets to "we should tank the season" this year in only 2 years.

Does anyone think the other teams would have so many fans supporting our Coach/GM as much?? I'd bet heads would have rolled for many of those teams.

If fans here can be truly honest (and I wonder) they should look back at this and say, this was a Clear, Epic and Horrible Failing by both our coach and GM to have put this team in this situation. making matters worse, we're stuck in either trading future assets this year or even more next summer just to get back to where we should gave been.

One last question. Is there anyone here actually enjoying this season so far?

Oh, come on.

It was 2 late lottery picks plus 3 (not 4) later first-rounders.

Nesmith isn't remotely a bust yet.
You're taking the negative view on Langford. OK, but do you think his injuries reflect bad scouting on the Celtics' part?
You seem to agree Pritchard was a successful pick.

So the legitimate basis for your rant seems to boil down to a pick being divided into two salary dumps and a pick being divided into Grant/Carsen. Well, that and the fact that Danny salary-dumped two centers only to sign TT as a third one, and signed Teague as well.

Yes, some failures in the first round and vet FA, but is that worth large-font ranting about?

[scottyno]

The fact he's had 18 years only hurts his case. 18 years and this is the best he can do?

And imagine if McHale didn't do his buddy a solid. Ainge has never proven he can build a competitor through the draft... in 18 years. And now he has flimsy assets to build around the Jays.

You just came off of 3 conf finals trips ???? Everyone wants a championship but gimme a break. You’re talking like he’s been bottom of the league the past 5 years.

Afraid not. You know why ? You give a GM like this a top 5 pick just once, that’s the last you see being a bottom feeder.

Fortunately, we have him and Wyc is smarter than message board posters.

Look how we robbed the Nets, we drafted Tatum + Brown with their picks! LOL at the Nets! Raptors are hanging division banners! Oh wait... Nets are basically the favorites to win it all before the Celtics, Raptors recently won a title. Meanwhile Celtics fans are hanging ECF banners

How tables have turned.

Yeah totally Ainge's fault that his team doesn't play in a city where Durant Kyrie and Harden wanted to team up, Nets really had to have a lot of skill to pull that one off.

Raptors won a title because they got lucky in the playoffs after being able to get Kawhi for so cheap that it made sense for them because the Spurs wanted DDR for some reason, which wasn't an available option to the Cs, and now they look like a team that probably won't contend for awhile.