Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2020-21, Part 1

[Bleeding Green]

I mean it's literally one post down. But yeah. I just hate pages that are the same quote box like 10 times, takes up so much space.

I understand. But, people are following your lead.
It could get out of hand. As I'm sure you know.

I don't recommend following my lead or agreeing with any of my takes, because I am assuredly wrong. Except about LeBron.

[GrandTheftRondo]

As I said I can’t stand LeBron and seeing him manipulate the league like he has to ensure a lot of success since 2010 has been tiresome when winning titles is so hard for everyone else.

But I also can’t stand when people talk him down for playing next to great players. Since when has that ever been an argument against all time great players?

Jordan played with Pippen for all his titles. Kukoc, Rodman etc. For the time he had a great team that fit around him.

Bird had McHale, Parish, DJ and a number of other talented players on great teams.

Magic had Kareem, Worthy etc.

Kobe had Shaq, Pau, Odom etc.

I could go on and on. You need great rosters around you to win multiple titles in this league. Heck even winning one requires roster talent. If MJ etc never had Pippen etc he would have bailed on Chicago. LeBron is just the first star to put so much pressure on his teams to get talent around him. Modern players don’t want to waste their career praying and hoping that some star will just appear.

I don’t really care a great deal for the who is the GOAT arguments but you are absolutely kidding yourself if you don’t think LeBron is one of the greatest to ever lace them up.

[Captain_Caveman]

Kings just lost in the worst way I have ever seen.

Oh my.

Up 8 with the ball and under a minute left. This forum would have burned to the **** ground if that were us.

[Fierce1]

Kings just lost in the worst way I have ever seen.

Oh my.

This forum would have burned to the **** ground if that were us.

True.

That was an epic collapse by the Kings.

Looks like Luke Walton will be fired.

Do want Luke Walton to replace Brad Stevens?

[Captain_Caveman]

Kings just lost in the worst way I have ever seen.

Oh my.

This forum would have burned to the **** ground if that were us.

True.

That was an epic collapse by the Kings.

Looks like Luke Walton will be fired.

Do want Luke Walton to replace Brad Stevens?

No. Hell no.

[Ed Pinkney]

As I said I can’t stand LeBron and seeing him manipulate the league like he has to ensure a lot of success since 2010 has been tiresome when winning titles is so hard for everyone else.

But I also can’t stand when people talk him down for playing next to great players. Since when has that ever been an argument against all time great players?

Jordan played with Pippen for all his titles. Kukoc, Rodman etc. For the time he had a great team that fit around him.

Bird had McHale, Parish, DJ and a number of other talented players on great teams.

Magic had Kareem, Worthy etc.

Kobe had Shaq, Pau, Odom etc.

I could go on and on. You need great rosters around you to win multiple titles in this league. Heck even winning one requires roster talent. If MJ etc never had Pippen etc he would have bailed on Chicago. LeBron is just the first star to put so much pressure on his teams to get talent around him. Modern players don’t want to waste their career praying and hoping that some star will just appear.

I don’t really care a great deal for the who is the GOAT arguments but you are absolutely kidding yourself if you don’t think LeBron is one of the greatest to ever lace them up.

Isn't the criticism that he jumps ship to a better situation when things get tough in the previous situation? He's done it three times now.

[Captain_Caveman]

1:09 left. You are up 8, and your star player is at the line for two FTs on the flagrant 1.

And you have the ball after those FTs.

HOW DO YOU LOSE?

[Fierce1]

1:09 left. You are up 8, and your star player is at the line for two FTs on the flagrant 1.

And you have the ball after those FTs.

HOW DO YOU LOSE?

Just like how do you lose when you're up 2 and the Lakers missed a game tying shot from Kobe and Divac slaps the ball right into the hands of Robert Horry for the win!

[Fierce1]

Read on Twitter

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[GrandTheftRondo]

As I said I can’t stand LeBron and seeing him manipulate the league like he has to ensure a lot of success since 2010 has been tiresome when winning titles is so hard for everyone else.

But I also can’t stand when people talk him down for playing next to great players. Since when has that ever been an argument against all time great players?

Jordan played with Pippen for all his titles. Kukoc, Rodman etc. For the time he had a great team that fit around him.

Bird had McHale, Parish, DJ and a number of other talented players on great teams.

Magic had Kareem, Worthy etc.

Kobe had Shaq, Pau, Odom etc.

I could go on and on. You need great rosters around you to win multiple titles in this league. Heck even winning one requires roster talent. If MJ etc never had Pippen etc he would have bailed on Chicago. LeBron is just the first star to put so much pressure on his teams to get talent around him. Modern players don’t want to waste their career praying and hoping that some star will just appear.

I don’t really care a great deal for the who is the GOAT arguments but you are absolutely kidding yourself if you don’t think LeBron is one of the greatest to ever lace them up.

Isn't the criticism that he jumps ship to a better situation when things get tough in the previous situation? He's done it three times now.

Honestly all the criticism I see relates to him playing next to great players. Yes part of it might relate to him moving around but still it is weird criticism. Jordan etc didn’t have to move around because they spent their prime years on teams that had a lot of talent.

LeBron had the misfortune of being drafted by an awful Cavs organisation and as a result has never really had stability. Let’s be honest if he wasn’t the hometown kid he would never have returned to Cleveland.

Has he ensured since 2010 he has played with talent? Yes. Absolutely. Does that make him a lesser player? Not in my eyes. He’s performed everywhere. He dragged those awful Cavs teams to multiple deep playoff runs. The only thing playing with great players changes is your ability to compete for titles. LeBron’s still had to do a lot of work.

[zoyathedestroya]

What a fun team. Back in 2016-17, we had something similar. I believe we named them after a staple breakfast meal.

Read on Twitter

[playa-hater]

For those who say S Bey only kills Boston (may be true) S Bey is still pretty consistent. First among rookies with 11 straight double digit games.

Not L Ball, Not Hali, and unfortunately not Nesmith

[1st banana]

1:09 left. You are up 8, and your star player is at the line for two FTs on the flagrant 1.

And you have the ball after those FTs.

HOW DO YOU LOSE?

Lol I turned the game off after the flagrant 1 thought it was done.

[JediMasterRevan]

As I said I can’t stand LeBron and seeing him manipulate the league like he has to ensure a lot of success since 2010 has been tiresome when winning titles is so hard for everyone else.

But I also can’t stand when people talk him down for playing next to great players. Since when has that ever been an argument against all time great players?

Jordan played with Pippen for all his titles. Kukoc, Rodman etc. For the time he had a great team that fit around him.

Bird had McHale, Parish, DJ and a number of other talented players on great teams.

Magic had Kareem, Worthy etc.

Kobe had Shaq, Pau, Odom etc.

I could go on and on. You need great rosters around you to win multiple titles in this league. Heck even winning one requires roster talent. If MJ etc never had Pippen etc he would have bailed on Chicago. LeBron is just the first star to put so much pressure on his teams to get talent around him. Modern players don’t want to waste their career praying and hoping that some star will just appear.

I don’t really care a great deal for the who is the GOAT arguments but you are absolutely kidding yourself if you don’t think LeBron is one of the greatest to ever lace them up.

The difference between Lebron and all the other compairisons is that none of those guys left town when the franchise took a dip or didnt have great players aside from the stars.

Mike lost
Magic lost
Bird Lost
Kobe lost

Lebron left to join a superteam, then left to join a superteam, then left to join a superteam.

[JediMasterRevan]

For those who say S Bey only kills Boston (may be true) S Bey is still pretty consistent. First among rookies with 11 straight double digit games.

Not L Ball, Not Hali, and unfortunately not Nesmith

Hali and Ball were always better prospects than Aaron, but in Aarons defense against Bey, Bey gets constant minutes. Nesmith gets jerked around constantly.

[bisme37]

Hawks just fired their coach.

[Fierce1]

Doc Rivers 'shocked' by Lloyd Pierce firing

3 mins ago – via Twitter Ky_Carlin
Ky Carlin: Doc Rivers said he was “shocked” to see Lloyd Pierce was fired by the Hawks. He added that it’s really disappointing.

[Fierce1]

Sixers beating the crap out of the Pacers in the 2nd qtr.

After starting the season hot, Pacers is in a free fall right now.

[BK_2020]

Turner embiidstopping Joel 15-9-4

[1st banana]

Turner embiidstopping Joel 15-9-4

Lol he really is just average on his best day he just missed a wide open layup during the pacers nice run.