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This is such an unnecessary position to be in.
So if Nate declines, does Travis coach the next two games?
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I agree, he accepted, but what was the other option? lolJamaaliver wrote:HMFFL wrote:
This is such an unnecessary position to be in.
So if Nate declines, does Travis coach the next two games?
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Something smells how this transpired.
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jayu70 wrote:Something smells how this transpired.
Agreed. And it smells like owner interference.
There's no way Travis should have made another huge error in judgment when parting ways with a head coach. This feels like Ressler getting impatient and forcing the move early like a two year old throwing a tantrum...
The only other explanation is that Travis Schlenk is a cruel, inept buffoon.
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Pierce said it was no excuse for the playoffs and obviously this team was dying a slow one into the deep lottery. The season can still be salvaged so it had to be done now, although I'd prefer to tank one last time.
This team will need to play really good ball something like .600 ball the rest of the way just to reach .500 which still isn't good enough if we are trying to set a standard.
This team will need to play really good ball something like .600 ball the rest of the way just to reach .500 which still isn't good enough if we are trying to set a standard.
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If Bogi comes back tomorrow, it would add on the bad timing, leaving zero chance to Pierce to show if he can react with roster starting to get bigger. OK, it would certainly need Hunter back too, but... I think it should have been done in January, or a bit later than this week.
And even if he made me crazy about the 4th quarters and Capela on the bench at the end of games, I still think he deserved a chance with the full roster.
If ATL had this record without any injuries or small ones, it would have been another story
And even if he made me crazy about the 4th quarters and Capela on the bench at the end of games, I still think he deserved a chance with the full roster.
If ATL had this record without any injuries or small ones, it would have been another story
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Meanwhile, time was quickly becoming of the essence. With the smashed-together schedule of this season offering few real opportunities for practice or major strategic shifts, the upcoming week off during the All-Star break provides the only real opportunity for a new coach to get some traction. I suspect Minnesota was compelled by similar logic. I also won’t be shocked at all if this is the last coaching change until May because there is just no opportunity for a new coach to get rolling once most of the league tips off the second half on March 11.
Nonetheless, it’s amazing to look at this season and see how much of this was mostly or fully beyond Pierce’s control. The Hawks went all-in for the playoffs by signing Kris Dunn, who hasn’t played a game, and Bogdan Bogdanovic, who is also injured, and Rajon Rondo, who might be the worst backup point guard in the league, and Danilo Gallinari, who has been the walking definition of toast. Is it any surprise, then, that they’ve been a disappointment?
Even the successes turned sour. The Hawks did a great job developing De’Andre Hunter, who was a strong candidate for Most Improved Player, and then he got hurt too. Atlanta has been so denuded by injuries and ineffectiveness that Solomon Hill, with his 7.0 PER, has become someone they count on. Subtract all the injured or ineffective additions, and these Hawks basically end up with last year’s 20-47 team plus Capela, which largely explains how a
The clock has now started ticking on this front office, led by general manager Travis Schlenk.
The Hawks’ mandate to make the playoffs this year precipitated a torrent of spending that has largely proven fruitless, as noted above, and while the injuries to Dunn and Bogdanovic were unfortunate, the Rondo and Gallinari additions have been clear failures.
Moreover, the depth pieces just aren’t there; there haven’t been any crafty minimum or low-dollar exception guys making up for the disappointments elsewhere. Look at Atlanta’s roster this season: six of the 11 players with at least 250 minutes played have a PER of 10.0 or below. Minor injuries or foul trouble have an outsized impact because the second-line players have been found so clearly wanting.
With all that said, interim coach Nate McMillan inherits some basic nuts-and-bolts of a good team as he tries to salvage at least a play-in spot, and the rest of the East isn’t exactly running away from them.
Nonetheless, the trade deadline looms and some important decisions are right on the horizon. Schlenk may only have one more offseason to get this right, and he has a lot of questions to answer in this second half of the season.
Is John Collins part of the future? If so, is he worth a likely max contract? If not, can they trade him for something that they like better?Is the sixth overall pick, center Onyeka Okongwu, any good? If so, might they play him in a game at some point?Can they swing a trade or signing that finally addresses the carnage at backup point guard?Can they salvage something from Gallinari and limit his exposure on defense?Is McMillan part of the solution going forward, or a mere stopgap before the Hawks open a full coaching search this summer?
Figuring out the answers to those questions and similar ones (while we’re here, what’s up with Kevin Huerter?) over the next 12 months will likely define the future for the Schlenk regime. For now, we can say that if the Hawks weren’t all-in on their coach in the first place, they probably would have been better served doing this sooner and bringing in their first choice.
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Pop should add him back to his staff or basically stay silent. The same with Rick Carlisle. The Coaching Brotherhood has been in full force today.
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Tom Orsborn: Pop suggested Atlanta will come to regret its firing of Lloyd Pierce.
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Tom Orsborn: Pop suggested Atlanta will come to regret its firing of Lloyd Pierce.
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No he needed to get fired. I respect Pop but that’s just him being a nice guy. Lloyd can’t be a head coach and no amount of time would have fixed that. How much time, 5 years, 7, a decade? No, he was not showing us any improvement in his own coaching abilities.
The absolute right decision was made today. Let’s move on and win games with actual pro sets.
The absolute right decision was made today. Let’s move on and win games with actual pro sets.
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If you want to be an NBA coach, you got to be ready to pay the price if your team is sucking. Pierce had to go. He even knew it was coming. People getting in their feelings about it.....
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I'll never understand why when Trae missed out on that Team US select thing and LP basically said that he didn't deserve it....beginning of the end. If memory serves that was their first year. What a dumb move. Coach got to have his players back always.
Towards the end it just looked like everyone hated him and he hated everyone. For such a peer rated wonderful guy, something definately went wrong. He knew it was coming.
I won't miss him a bit, of course wish him the best, but needed him outta here
Towards the end it just looked like everyone hated him and he hated everyone. For such a peer rated wonderful guy, something definately went wrong. He knew it was coming.
I won't miss him a bit, of course wish him the best, but needed him outta here




