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Post#681 » by Neeva » Tue Mar 2, 2021 5:33 am

Ant will be good it’s not like Rosas selected or (traded down and selected two of) Toppin, Hayes, avdija, Okoro like a lot of people here wanted. Now those look like BUSTS. It’s funny how people act like Ball didn’t have a head start by being a pro player before.
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Post#682 » by Rookie-Mistake » Tue Mar 2, 2021 5:38 am

A lot of people on here thought the nbl as a trash league.. watching lamelo infuriates me that we didn't pick him..
Neeva wrote:Ant will be good it’s not like Rosas selected or (traded down and selected two of) Toppin, Hayes, avdija, Okoro like a lot of people here wanted. Now those look like BUSTS. It’s funny how people act like Ball didn’t have a head start by being a pro player before.


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Post#683 » by Rookie-Mistake » Tue Mar 2, 2021 5:42 am

Agreed.

Taylor needs to sell this team and devoid himself of the farce he has created for the past 15 years.

The team needs to be sold to either Seattle or Las Vegas.

Completely blow this m****r f***r up. Do it properly.
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Rookie-Mistake wrote:I'm watching this Hornets game and boy oh boy did we screw this draft pick up!

Lamelo is hands down a mile a head of Edwards

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I was such a Ball guy predraft and he’s exceeded all my expectations. When that body fills out and you have a 6’7” Trae Young, which is really what he is, you’ll have a top 5-10 player in the NBA. I probably need to stop watching the rest of the year. Rosas came into a not great situation and made it 100x worse. Until there’s a change up top, I don’t see how I can generate any excitement for the team. I just don’t see a future.


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Post#684 » by Calinks » Tue Mar 2, 2021 5:52 am

Certainly looks like Rosas screwed this up. Of course, Edwards still has a chance but the odds aren't good that he will grow past Lamello in the future, I just don't see anything right now that makes me feel that. Ball was very NBA-ready, his pro experience did wonders for him. I will also no longer underestimate professional experience, it seems to really give these guys a leg up, college ball is not the same especially when a guy has had only one year and been through the AAU circuit which is crap.

Very unfortunate that Rosas and his team couldn't identify this, his top-of-the-line talent evaluation has to be questioned as Culbver is a mother bad pick. They needed to nail this number 1 pick and it looks like they fluffed it. Just got to hope Rosas has the ability to repair a lot of the damage this team has in a short period of time. He has to or he is probably out the door in 18 months.
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Post#685 » by MN7725 » Tue Mar 2, 2021 6:01 am

Calinks wrote:Certainly looks like Rosas screwed this up. Of course, Edwards still has a chance but the odds aren't good that he will grow past Lamello in the future, I just don't see anything right now that makes me feel that. Ball was very NBA-ready, his pro experience did wonders for him. I will also no longer underestimate professional experience, it seems to really give these guys a leg up, college ball is not the same especially when a guy has had only one year and been through the AAU circuit which is crap.

Very unfortunate that Rosas and his team couldn't identify this, his top-of-the-line talent evaluation has to be questioned as Culbver is a mother bad pick. They needed to nail this number 1 pick and it looks like they fluffed it. Just got to hope Rosas has the ability to repair a lot of the damage this team has in a short period of time. He has to or he is probably out the door in 18 months.


Possible they did, but didn't pick Ball because of Russell
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Post#686 » by Neeva » Tue Mar 2, 2021 6:04 am

It all comes back down to Towns. Rosas got Russell to appease and keep Towns happy.. having towns around is obviously doing more harm than good ( according to some of you) so better to trade towns and start anew?
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Post#687 » by Rookie-Mistake » Tue Mar 2, 2021 6:12 am

But goes and gets Rubio who is a somewhat similar player for $17 mil a season... I remember in one of his press conference saying it was dangerous to draft for position rather than talent.. how could they not see Lamelo or Wiseman were more talented than Ant?

How could they not see Jarret Culver had shooting issues in College?

This club is lucky that they're not playing in front of fans.. the revolt would be immense.. I hope Rosas does turn it around but he can be political for so long until the losses keep pilling up and everyone is sick of it and start calling for his head...
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Calinks wrote:Certainly looks like Rosas screwed this up. Of course, Edwards still has a chance but the odds aren't good that he will grow past Lamello in the future, I just don't see anything right now that makes me feel that. Ball was very NBA-ready, his pro experience did wonders for him. I will also no longer underestimate professional experience, it seems to really give these guys a leg up, college ball is not the same especially when a guy has had only one year and been through the AAU circuit which is crap.

Very unfortunate that Rosas and his team couldn't identify this, his top-of-the-line talent evaluation has to be questioned as Culbver is a mother bad pick. They needed to nail this number 1 pick and it looks like they fluffed it. Just got to hope Rosas has the ability to repair a lot of the damage this team has in a short period of time. He has to or he is probably out the door in 18 months.


Possible they did, but didn't pick Ball because of Russell


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Post#688 » by Calinks » Tue Mar 2, 2021 6:14 am

Neeva wrote:It all comes back down to Towns. Rosas got Russell to appease and keep Towns happy.. having towns around is obviously doing more harm than good ( according to some of you) so better to trade towns and start anew?

I don't think they did it just to make Towns happy. I think they truly believed they would be an optimal combination. If Rosas did do it just to make KAT happy and he did pass on Ball (if he thought he would be better than Edwards) just so they didn't have an issue with Dlo, then he needs to go, those are very poor reasons to make such huge commitments. You always take beast player available unless the better fit is really close to the BPA IMO. Edwards isn't close to Ball but maybe Rosas thinks he will be.

I have to believe that the front office thought they were making the best choices they could, they were just probably wrong. Lamello was the better pick over Edwards, Culver was a bad pick, so far Russell hasn't looked good but I still need to see him with KAT for extended minutes to better judge. Rosas is on thin ice though. If Finch doesn't work out or he can't get this team looking much better next season, what's left of the fans are probably going to turn on him like they did Ryan.

I think the franchise right now is at one of the lowest points it has ever been and that is pretty insane, even in the bad there was optimism. Right now, there isn't much of that even though we haven't seen our 3 best players play together for more than 5 games. The vibe around the wolves is just awful, again as bad as I can remember it. Rosas was supposed to be the guy who fixed that and right now, he's done the opposite.

A handful of wins and positive play would do a lot to lift the negativity but I don't know if this roster is capable of that. I expect a big trade soon to try and inject some life.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#689 » by Jedzz » Tue Mar 2, 2021 7:14 am

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Neeva wrote:It all comes back down to Towns. Rosas got Russell to appease and keep Towns happy.. having towns around is obviously doing more harm than good ( according to some of you) so better to trade towns and start anew?

I don't think they did it just to make Towns happy. I think they truly believed they would be an optimal combination. If Rosas did do it just to make KAT happy and he did pass on Ball (if he thought he would be better than Edwards) just so they didn't have an issue with Dlo, then he needs to go, those are very poor reasons to make such huge commitments. You always take beast player available unless the better fit is really close to the BPA IMO. Edwards isn't close to Ball but maybe Rosas thinks he will be.


I think the part about Edwards that isn't brought into this enough is that he played a Hardenesque PG role in college, and he's also been handed significant onball and offensive initiating roles already in the first 34 games. Even from preseason and the first 5 games. So if someone is claiming the only reason he didn't select LaMello was because of Dlo, then why would Rosas then draft Edwards and trade for Rubio and start the season with Dlo out of his best role for him and have players like Edwards/Culver initiating even while Dlo was playing off bench with them to start this season? So this cannot be the reason for not selecting Ball. Because they easily could have drafted LaMello and allowed him to start the season at PG. He could have even traded for Rubio, started Rubio as he did for a short period so as not to rush LaMello into starting roles. I think it's possible he did exactly that for Edwards, who Rosas sees as his Harden North for the Houston North he wanted to build here. And if it didn't work out, he would just use him as a trade asset and fall back to Dlo/Rubio.

Calinks wrote:I think the franchise right now is at one of the lowest points it has ever been and that is pretty insane, even in the bad there was optimism. Right now, there isn't much of that even though we haven't seen our 3 best players play together for more than 5 games. The vibe around the wolves is just awful, again as bad as I can remember it. Rosas was supposed to be the guy who fixed that and right now, he's done the opposite.

It sort of blows my mind, or did this offseason. Because I had resigned myself to seeing how this played out since his trade deadline finally seeing a few upper tier skills showing up with the team, a formation of something better. It's hard to believe how badly they could destroy that in one extra long offseason for them where they had so much tmie to get it right. But it seems the extra time might have done the opposite.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#690 » by _AIJ_ » Tue Mar 2, 2021 2:49 pm

He really needs to cut his tunnel vision and non sense 3 point shot attempts. He has show flashes thus far. If he is scared to attack the basket because refs wont call a foul, so what? He will get his calls eventually.
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Post#691 » by Krapinsky » Tue Mar 2, 2021 3:11 pm

Given a tough decision with two or three options, Wolves have ALWAYS chosen the wrong option. It really never fails.
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Post#692 » by Baseline81 » Tue Mar 2, 2021 3:17 pm

Krapinsky wrote:Given a tough decision with two or three options, Wolves have ALWAYS chosen the wrong option. It really never fails.

Towns over Okafor comes to mind.
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Post#693 » by thinktank » Tue Mar 2, 2021 3:24 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:Given a tough decision with two or three options, Wolves have ALWAYS chosen the wrong option. It really never fails.

Towns over Okafor comes to mind.


Love over Mayo.
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Post#694 » by jpatrick » Tue Mar 2, 2021 3:28 pm

Even though I was a Ball guy predraft and think he is really going to be a superstar doesn’t mean I don’t think Edwards has talent. I’d take him #2 out of this years draft class still. He seems like a really good kid and has great athletic tools. But he doesn’t have great BBIQ, which is what you need if you’re going to have the ball on your hands most possessions, plus I don’t think his efficiency will ever get up to elite standards. So, what I see as Edwards’ future is a volume scorer that puts up great counting stats, easy 20 ppg, but those stats don’t lead to winning. I hope I’m wrong.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#695 » by jpatrick » Tue Mar 2, 2021 3:30 pm

thinktank wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:Given a tough decision with two or three options, Wolves have ALWAYS chosen the wrong option. It really never fails.

Towns over Okafor comes to mind.


Love over Mayo.


Towns over Okafor wasn’t a decision. Everyone outside of a few on this board, and a rumor Flip liked Okafor, had Towns #1.

Love over Mayo really was a genius move by McHale. I was pissed when it happened, but it turned out to be the right call.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#696 » by Krapinsky » Tue Mar 2, 2021 3:30 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:Given a tough decision with two or three options, Wolves have ALWAYS chosen the wrong option. It really never fails.

Towns over Okafor comes to mind.


I don't recall that being close. Towns was pretty close to unanimous by draft time as far as I recall.
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Post#697 » by Krapinsky » Tue Mar 2, 2021 3:32 pm

thinktank wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:Given a tough decision with two or three options, Wolves have ALWAYS chosen the wrong option. It really never fails.

Towns over Okafor comes to mind.


Love over Mayo.


This was a 3 for 5 trade, so not the same thing in my mind.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#698 » by Domejandro » Tue Mar 2, 2021 3:37 pm

Going full blown arrogant on this one, but I really wish I was a worse Draft talent evaluator than the Timberwolves, because consistently having a better eye for talent than the team I cheer for (over the course of a decade +) is a huge buzzkill. As somebody who actually watched him in the NBL, LaMelo was such an obvious pick. I desperately just want the team I cheer for to make me feel like an idiot. Just one time, it is all I ask. Let Anthony Edwards turn into Wade so people can point and laugh at this post, and call me a clown.

I have plenty of major Draft blunders (Giannis, Trae Young, Dennis Smith Jr., I preferred Markkanan over Isaac, the list is endless), but I have never done worse than the Minnesota Timberwolves. I would be sad for a while, but the team being moved would probably be positive for my overall enjoyment of basketball.

I really do not feel encouraged about Edwards’ play, he is arguably the worst defensive player in the League (I believe bottom five, but not quite worst), he is lost off-ball offensively, his passing awareness is limited, and he draws fouls at a low rate. I don’t question his scoring talent, but especially on a team like this, I so not expect him to develop into an efficient player; it’s an uphill climb. LaMelo is just so much more advanced at every single facet of the game, it is not even close. I am pretty much at the point of giving up on the franchise, at this point. Hopefully next season is better, but this is by FAR the worst I have ever felt about being a Minnesota Timberwolves fan.

I am an unqualified and irrelevant sports fan who has no future in the industry, I want my team to consistently remind me of that.
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Post#699 » by Baseline81 » Tue Mar 2, 2021 3:50 pm

Krapinsky wrote:I don't recall that being close. Towns was pretty close to unanimous by draft time as far as I recall.

As I recall, Saunders had gushed over Okafor throughout the college season, but his staff pushed for Towns.

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2015/05/19/report-flip-saunders-really-likes-jahlil-okafor-wont-necessarily-take-karl-anthony-towns-no-1/
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Post#700 » by thinktank » Tue Mar 2, 2021 3:55 pm

Krapinsky wrote:
thinktank wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:Towns over Okafor comes to mind.


Love over Mayo.


This was a 3 for 5 trade, so not the same thing in my mind.


I disagree but oh well.

We made the choice to trade OJ Mayo and acquire Love.

You said we make the worst choice.

In this case we did not.

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