Devin Booker - king of empty stats?

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Is Devin Booker an empty stats player?

Poll ended at Tue Mar 9, 2021 5:44 am

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No
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Re: Devin Booker - king of empty stats? 

Post#61 » by NY2k1 » Wed Mar 3, 2021 6:15 am

Kings4win wrote:And there we are. Booker ejected and still a comfortable win against the Lakers. Can't say I didn't tell you


You're using one game as your barometer to prove Booker isn't needed, lol. This thread is embarrassing and you're only digging yourself a bigger hole. Please quit while you're ahead. :lol:

PS. The Booker ejection was BS
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Re: Devin Booker - king of empty stats? 

Post#62 » by SlovenianDragon » Wed Mar 3, 2021 6:16 am

Booker is the closest thing to Kobe in this league.

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Re: Devin Booker - king of empty stats? 

Post#63 » by NY2k1 » Wed Mar 3, 2021 6:20 am

Kings4win wrote:
Crives wrote:
Kings4win wrote:Not when you are a defensive sieve and have a lot of turnovers. Plus he jack's up a lot of shots he shouldn't, he could be even more efficient. All he cares about is his stats and then going home to that ball groupie that pretty much every player has had a turn with.


Do you watch Basketball? After a slow start after odd offseason Booker was #36 in turnovers in Feb.
Ah the old do you watch basketball, I am higher than thou lol. Yes and he's finally in a position to win because he has players around him who compliment him and are more impactful on both ends. Booker is like a Kevin Martin with better passing. It's nothing to write home about. Stop gloating.


No **** lol. Unless you're a Lebron, most good players need other good players around them to succeed :banghead: :lol:

You hate Booker so much, you aren't even making sense my boy.
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Re: Devin Booker - king of empty stats? 

Post#64 » by Pelly24 » Wed Mar 3, 2021 6:26 am

Devin Booker is a very good player. Def not empty stats. That was always kinda silly.
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Post#65 » by Crives » Wed Mar 3, 2021 6:28 am

Pelly24 wrote:Devin Booker is a very good player. Def not empty stats. That was always kinda silly.


Apparently 39 posters here still disagree. :crazy: :crazy:
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Post#66 » by dzumaal » Wed Mar 3, 2021 6:33 am

Suns with the 2nd best record in the NBA right now. No stat by any Suns player is empty in any way.

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Post#67 » by pj0tr » Wed Mar 3, 2021 6:37 am

Kings4win wrote:And there we are. Booker ejected and still a comfortable win against the Lakers. Can't say I didn't tell you


Booker was a +13 while he was on the floor. I swear people don't watch these games.
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Re: Devin Booker - king of empty stats? 

Post#68 » by SlovenianDragon » Wed Mar 3, 2021 6:44 am

dzumaal wrote:Suns with the 2nd best record in the NBA right now. No stat by any Suns player is empty in any way.

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Even that thread about taking Ayton over Luka...

Checks notes...

Oh suns are way better. I think I can live with the state of things.

Devin Booker is Empty stats!

Checks notes...

Still getting Dubs. 2nd best team in the league.

I think I can live with the state of things.



Also would like to point out Suns fans dont come to the GB to brag but we will back our bois up.
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Re: Devin Booker - king of empty stats? 

Post#69 » by bronxknicksfan1 » Wed Mar 3, 2021 7:02 am

Man, I’m convinced some posters don’t watch games if they believe Book is an empty stats player. The Suns are one of the teams I follow heavily on league pass and my eyes tell me the same thing the stats do. Book is one hell of a player.

They’re 21-9 when Book plays and 2-2 when he was out. +11.9 ORTG when he’s on the court vs off. That’s not empty at all.
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Post#70 » by Seattlesun » Wed Mar 3, 2021 7:03 am

Empty stats = wins.

All you little infant haters didn’t see that coming did ya?
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Post#71 » by itsxtray » Wed Mar 3, 2021 7:22 am

Why are Bookers advanced stats so bad compared to the level of player he's supposed to be? This is what im confused by

109 ortg to 112 def -3 (bball ref)
18.8 per (15 is league average so he's just above)
.104 ws/48
0.9 obpm to -1.1 dbpm for -0.1 total bpm
77th in rpm = 1.90 orpm to -0.46 drpm for 1.44 rpm

His impact stats are nothing to write home about, whats going on here?
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Re: Devin Booker - king of empty stats? 

Post#72 » by Seattlesun » Wed Mar 3, 2021 7:50 am

itsxtray wrote:
His impact stats are nothing to write home about, whats going on here?


2nd best record in the NBA. That’s what’s going on dummy.
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Re: Devin Booker - king of empty stats? 

Post#73 » by Qwigglez » Wed Mar 3, 2021 8:10 am

itsxtray wrote:Why are Bookers advanced stats so bad compared to the level of player he's supposed to be? This is what im confused by

109 ortg to 112 def -3 (bball ref)
18.8 per (15 is league average so he's just above)
.104 ws/48
0.9 obpm to -1.1 dbpm for -0.1 total bpm
77th in rpm = 1.90 orpm to -0.46 drpm for 1.44 rpm

His impact stats are nothing to write home about, whats going on here?


Booker and the Suns were adjusting to CP3 the first 14 games of the season. Booker was averaging 23, 4.1, 3.5 a game on 47/34/82 shooting the Suns went 8-6. After his 4 game off due to injury he came back and is averaging 28, 4.5, 3.7 on 52/40/85 shooting where the Suns are 12-3 (now 13-3). I would imagine his advanced stats look better after he came back from his injury, even Suns fans would agree Book didn't look like himself before then.


*Edit*
forgot to mention the worse part is Booker was averaging 4 turnovers a game before his injury, afterwards he's averaging 2.7 a game.
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Re: Devin Booker - king of empty stats? 

Post#74 » by itsxtray » Wed Mar 3, 2021 12:14 pm

Seattlesun wrote:
itsxtray wrote:
His impact stats are nothing to write home about, whats going on here?


2nd best record in the NBA. That’s what’s going on dummy.

Wow, the reply of a child who only sees the surface and is too afraid to look under the bed lol.
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Post#75 » by Calvin Klein » Wed Mar 3, 2021 12:27 pm

People still doubt Booker? I know most people don't watch the team and haven't since who knows when but this is just trolling at this point
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Re: Devin Booker - king of empty stats? 

Post#76 » by itsxtray » Wed Mar 3, 2021 12:38 pm

Qwigglez wrote:
itsxtray wrote:Why are Bookers advanced stats so bad compared to the level of player he's supposed to be? This is what im confused by

109 ortg to 112 def -3 (bball ref)
18.8 per (15 is league average so he's just above)
.104 ws/48
0.9 obpm to -1.1 dbpm for -0.1 total bpm
77th in rpm = 1.90 orpm to -0.46 drpm for 1.44 rpm

His impact stats are nothing to write home about, whats going on here?


Booker and the Suns were adjusting to CP3 the first 14 games of the season. Booker was averaging 23, 4.1, 3.5 a game on 47/34/82 shooting the Suns went 8-6. After his 4 game off due to injury he came back and is averaging 28, 4.5, 3.7 on 52/40/85 shooting where the Suns are 12-3 (now 13-3). I would imagine his advanced stats look better after he came back from his injury, even Suns fans would agree Book didn't look like himself before then.


*Edit*
forgot to mention the worse part is Booker was averaging 4 turnovers a game before his injury, afterwards he's averaging 2.7 a game.


Not sure i buy this because his advanced stats have never been anything to write home about. The bad team excuse doesn't work either because players on bad teams have had good advanced stats, at least better than his habe been. I think it's because he gives up so much on defense even tho he's steadily improved on offense.

But as studies have shown even high volume efficient scoring only raises the bar so high, him being only an average passer is also holding him back. Scoring efficiently alone isn't enough... the scorers who have the highest impact either defend really well (Kawhi route) or playmake really well (Harden route)

To have his impact match his box scores he either needs to become a much better passer or a much better defender, preferably both.

Now, i don't wan't to get ahead of myself. There's still plenty of season to play and his stats could improve, lets check back in near the end of the season and see if anythings changed.
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Re: Devin Booker - king of empty stats? 

Post#77 » by iLLmatic860 » Wed Mar 3, 2021 1:44 pm

Trae Young is the king of empty stats
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Post#78 » by gorz » Wed Mar 3, 2021 1:54 pm

If Chris Paul is not on this team.. the suns miss the playoffs again.
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Post#79 » by Def Leppard » Wed Mar 3, 2021 1:55 pm

Hold the phone, is Ayton a two way player now?

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Re: Devin Booker - king of empty stats? 

Post#80 » by Sicnarf » Wed Mar 3, 2021 2:39 pm

Definitely Lebron was right... Booker may be the least respected player in the NBA if there are still people who can dare to open this kind of threads... Or perhaps there are many more boxscore fans (not actually watching the games) that I thought...

Basketball is an art, a joy for the soul, and Book is one of the main artists nowadays, a real toy to watch... Is Steph Curry empty stats?

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