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smauss · Post #1641 » by **smauss** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 1:13 am

the NBA won't let us sign another 1 dimensional 3pt shooter cuz we have to many guys standing around the 3pt line already. According to the NBA, unless you are actually playing in the game, and not just standing at the 3pt line, you have to maintain social distancing guidelines...

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giannis and 1 · Post #1642 » by **giannis and 1** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 2:17 am

Chad34 wrote:Diakite>wood

How do I downvote a post

emunney · Post #1643 » by **emunney** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 5:43 am

giannis and 1 wrote:
Chad34 wrote:Diakite>wood

How do I downvote a post

Punch your computer

ShootingtheJ · Post #1644 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 12:27 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
EastSideBucksFan wrote:I'd really like to pry Garrett Temple away from Chicago, a DJW swap for Temple might be enough, not sure how much demand there will be for him. But, he could be a steady hand and insurance for our guard group. Can play both spots, good defender, shooter, smart veteran.

He’d be great. A challenge we will have is that with the revised playoff format and Covid, I’d doubt many teams will be willing to give up guys, unless they are being really compensated for it. Bulls may feel they can still make a playoff appearance here.

There's a lot to like about Temple, but his shooting is actually kind of suspect.

Justin Holiday needs to be the #1 target because he's a Forbes level shooter but also a very good defender.

slos · Post #1645 » by **slos** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 12:49 pm

How do you feel about Rubio? Obviously not an ideal fit next to Giannis with his average shooting, but if we can have him for peanuts it's something to consider.

Rubio for Augustin, Connaughton, Craig, Wilson, 2nd works financially and leaves enough money for a couple of buyout vets.

Rubio........DiVincenzo.....Adams (2way)
Holiday......Forbes..........Merrill
Middleton...Vet..............Nwora
Giannis......Vet..............Thanasis
Lopez........Portis...........Diakite (2way)

Rubio/Jrue combo lacks shooting, but will make us a smarter team with elite ball movement and even better D. I mean the DJs and Pat is all we are losing in this trade. We can only be better. If Rubio/Jrue shoot a respectable 36% from downtown many of our problems could be solved.

Moving DDV in the bench is another bonus for our second unit next to Forbes and Portis. We will need 1-2 more players for our playoff rotations. I guess we can have some help either from the buyout market or with a rookie (Mamadi?) stepping up.

LuessiT · Post #1646 » by **LuessiT** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 2:11 pm

I'm just here to highlight there is this prince from Nigeria France who's hitting 55.6% from 3 and plays excellent defense.

tski1972 · Post #1647 » by **tski1972** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 2:41 pm

Pat’s trade eligible today.

Wonka · Post #1648 » by **Wonka** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 3:27 pm

tski1972 wrote:Pat’s trade eligible today.

Don’t tease us!

WRau1 · Post #1649 » by **WRau1** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 3:44 pm

Lopez + Craig for Richardson + Burke
DJA + Merrill + 2nd rd picks for Bamba
sign a buyout sf/pf
bring up Diakite

Hoilday/Burke
DDV/Richardson/Forbes
Middleton/PatC/Thanos
Giannis/buyout vet/Diakite
Bamba/Portis

Post #1650 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 3:51 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Any and all Brook trades for me are still DOA until we adequately answer the question "who are you replacing him with?"

If the answer is still some form of, "Giannis/Portis can handle it" or "Luke Kornet/buy-out veteran", then sorry, we're way worse off. Back-up PG/SG is still this team's biggest weakness that needs addressing, and I don't think it's even close. Brook still works defensively for 20-25 minutes a night so long as you have perimeter bench players that aren't absolute turnstiles on defense.

I completely agree. 1 player I'd love to see the Bux target is Mo Bamba. I think the window to get him cheaply will likely close soon, as Orlando's planning on moving Birch to starting PF - which should give Bamba more PT.

Ron Swanson · Post #1651 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 3:53 pm

Do people really think that Bamba can offer you quality NBA center minutes at this point? I think dude is bordering on straight up Thabeet/Nogeuira level bust territory right now. It's not a good sign in Year 3 when you're still buried in the rotation behind Khem Birch (maybe he's the guy we should be targeting instead?).

Siefer · Post #1652 » by **Siefer** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 3:55 pm

PatC isn't special, but he's also our most flexible bench guy. We have such significant lineup problems as it is. That said, I can't figure out a Rubio deal that doesn't involve him.

WRau1 · Post #1653 » by **WRau1** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 4:04 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Do people really think that Bamba can offer you quality NBA center minutes at this point? I think dude is bordering on straight up Thabeet/Nogeuira level bust territory right now. It's not a good sign in Year 3 when you're still buried in the rotation behind Khem Birch (maybe he's the guy we should be targeting instead?).

We're already starting a situational backup at C, at least Bamba is on an expiring deal if it doesn't work out.

LuessiT · Post #1654 » by **LuessiT** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 4:18 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Do people really think that Bamba can offer you quality NBA center minutes at this point? I think dude is bordering on straight up Thabeet/Nogeuira level bust territory right now. It's not a good sign in Year 3 when you're still buried in the rotation behind Khem Birch (maybe he's the guy we should be targeting instead?).

The argument that could be made for Bamba is that if there's a scheme that gets the best out of him it's ours. That said I think taking a flier on underperforming high lotto picks is mostly a trap due to the high QO. I'm also not suggesting Ntilikina because he's worth taking a flier on, I'm suggesting him because imo he can help us now.

Post #1655 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 4:20 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Do people really think that Bamba can offer you quality NBA center minutes at this point? I think dude is bordering on straight up Thabeet/Nogeuira level bust territory right now. It's not a good sign in Year 3 when you're still buried in the rotation behind Khem Birch (maybe he's the guy we should be targeting instead?).

Meh, he had a serious problem with COVID that he didn't fully recover from until after the season started. And there are reasons they're going to start Birch at PF - part of which is to play Bamba more - not to mention they like Birch. Not to mention, Bamba's stats are outstanding - nothing like Thabeet/Nogueira. He was raw as a 19/20 year old rookie with limited experience, but look at the improvements he's made in his stats. He's even developed the beginnings of a good 3 point shot.

Post #1656 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 4:22 pm

LuessiT wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Do people really think that Bamba can offer you quality NBA center minutes at this point? I think dude is bordering on straight up Thabeet/Nogeuira level bust territory right now. It's not a good sign in Year 3 when you're still buried in the rotation behind Khem Birch (maybe he's the guy we should be targeting instead?).

The argument that could be made for Bamba is that if there's a scheme that gets the best out of him it's ours. That said I think taking a flier on underperforming high lotto picks is mostly a trap due to the high QO. I'm also not suggesting Ntilikina because he's worth taking a flier on, I'm suggesting him because imo he can help us now.

Bamba's not an underperformer. He's had health problems, but when he's played, he's played very well.

Matches Malone · Post #1657 » by **Matches Malone** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 4:34 pm

Wonka wrote:
tski1972 wrote:Pat’s trade eligible today.

Don’t tease us!

I've never been more aroused after reading the sentence, "Pat's trade eligible today."

Bucksfan28 · Post #1658 » by **Bucksfan28** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 4:36 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
EastSideBucksFan wrote:I'd really like to pry Garrett Temple away from Chicago, a DJW swap for Temple might be enough, not sure how much demand there will be for him. But, he could be a steady hand and insurance for our guard group. Can play both spots, good defender, shooter, smart veteran.

He’d be great. A challenge we will have is that with the revised playoff format and Covid, I’d doubt many teams will be willing to give up guys, unless they are being really compensated for it. Bulls may feel they can still make a playoff appearance here.

There's a lot to like about Temple, but his shooting is actually kind of suspect.

Justin Holiday needs to be the #1 target because he's a Forbes level shooter but also a very good defender.

A major part of Indiana's rotation right now on a very team-friendly deal with two years remaining. I don't see any way to entice them into dealing Justin without including DDV. He would be a nice addition though.

LuessiT · Post #1659 » by **LuessiT** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 4:54 pm

Ruzious wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Do people really think that Bamba can offer you quality NBA center minutes at this point? I think dude is bordering on straight up Thabeet/Nogeuira level bust territory right now. It's not a good sign in Year 3 when you're still buried in the rotation behind Khem Birch (maybe he's the guy we should be targeting instead?).

The argument that could be made for Bamba is that if there's a scheme that gets the best out of him it's ours. That said I think taking a flier on underperforming high lotto picks is mostly a trap due to the high QO. I'm also not suggesting Ntilikina because he's worth taking a flier on, I'm suggesting him because imo he can help us now.

Bamba's not an underperformer. He's had health problems, but when he's played, he's played very well.

Bamba's issues run much deeper than catching covid. His motor on the court is underwhelming to say the least and that for someone who's main job requires hustle is close to a red flag to me.

He's making 7.6m next year which under no circumstances I think he'll outplay. Then you have to offer him a 1y/10m deal with significant trade restrictions to retain his RFA rights. Plus the value you're adding for the Magic to part ways with him.

ShootingtheJ · Post #1660 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 6:43 pm

LuessiT wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
The argument that could be made for Bamba is that if there's a scheme that gets the best out of him it's ours. That said I think taking a flier on underperforming high lotto picks is mostly a trap due to the high QO. I'm also not suggesting Ntilikina because he's worth taking a flier on, I'm suggesting him because imo he can help us now.

Bamba's not an underperformer. He's had health problems, but when he's played, he's played very well.

Bamba's issues run much deeper than catching covid. His motor on the court is underwhelming to say the least and that for someone who's main job requires hustle is close to a red flag to me.

He's making 7.6m next year which under no circumstances I think he'll outplay. Then you have to offer him a 1y/10m deal with significant trade restrictions to retain his RFA rights. Plus the value you're adding for the Magic to part ways with him.

He's still a defensive monster when he's on the floor, even though he plays with an abundance of hesitation.