hands11 wrote:Ruzious wrote:hands11 wrote:
Exactly. They got a player and 2M
And some how that's a bad thing.
I still have not seen anything showing Burton has signed with the Wizards other than to play with their Summer League team. Signing with the SL team does NOT mean he is signing to be on their 15 man roster.
And Leonsis' explanation stinks! Use the D League. Use everything you can to improve the players and the roster.
Getting drafted 46th doesn't mean you make the team either.
Drafted or undrafted, that player was going to play in summer league to prove if they could make it.
Deonte-Burton and Khem-Birch were both slotted as late 2nd round picks and we have both going to the summer league.
Here. With the 51st pick, the Washington Wizards select.... Deonte Burton PG from University of Nevada
And with the 52nd pick, the Washington Wizards select....Khem Birch SF from UNLV
Feel better now ?
Oh, and here is 2M dollars.
Honestly. Complaining is natural for any fan of a team, but making up stuff to complain about ? I don't get that. They got two 2nd round worthy players, and 2M dollars.
As for using the DL, they have. Plenty of times. We just didn't do it last year because we had 15 players.
Have you already forgotten all the DL call up they had ? Do we need to board to do a list of all the DL player they call up over the last 5 years ?
Why do you continue to insist on defending horrible moves by this franchise? I've noticed this over and over and I don't understand it.
Look, nobodies going to try to sell the idea that selling a second round pick is the equivalent of selling the rights to a near certain starter, or rotational player. It isn't. Any of us who hated this move would cede that point. The success rate of second round guys is something on the order of about 10-18%. Basically somewhere between a 1 in 10 and a 1 in 5 chance of landing something of value, usually closer to 1 in 10.
The problem is the philosophical structure of the move, and the utilization of asset value.
Second Rounders can be used for:
Acquiring young talent on non-guaranteed contracts
Acquiring future late round picks for use on players, or for use in trade packages.
Acquiring draft and stash players from around the world who could have value down the line (see S.A.) or could be packaged as a player or simply salary in a future trade package (see Veeremenko, Juan Carlos Navarro etc)
All three of these uses provide asset value for franchises. In the former case you land the rights to a player who could be of value to your franchise, and in the latter cases you can use the assets to make trades or acquisitions down the line that could be of value for your franchise, while in the last case, you can speculate on players without being on the hook for their salary on your books, and as the game continues to grow outside of America, this should only be an ever more productive means of acquiring talent, so long as you avoid the hype issue.
Otoh what does selling a draft pick acquire for your franchise.
Nothing.
There is zero asset value, except to the wallet of an owner that is more interested in saving some money for some Bordeaux Futures, and perhaps speculation in the Barolo 2001, 2003, and 2007 market (just read this article if you doubt me
http://www.winespectator.com/magazine/show/id/9833 ), then actually building a team, you know, the way the most successful franchise in the NBA has done (San Antonio and over the past several years, has been the only team in the NBA capable of contending for and winning titles despite the absence of a true franchise player, Duncan used to be one, but he is in the twilight of his career, and has been so for quite a while).
The blue print is there, but after five offseasons in which a plethora of draft picks were wasted on trades, and selections that only the biggest homers on this board could have supported, the team basically has two players of value, and largely an empty cupboard, and cap space.
As per usual this team is a disaster and an embarrassment. And for the record, you don't have to agree with me, even though history, and facts are on my side, and, I don't know, idealism of the sort Candide lived his life by in Voltaire's famous novel is on yours. I could totally be wrong, or more reasonably, engaging a bit of hyperbole.
But don't you see how this is very much of the same thread, of the same design as the rest of this misshapen tapestry of a rebuild?
Honestly, is there anyway to justify the selling of a pick. Really. Is there? There are three avenues in which a GM can acquire value with a second round draft pick, and EG eschewed all three. The value may never have come to pass, certainly, but in doing what he did, he insured ZERO VALUE was guaranteed to come to pass. Zero.
When is it ever okay to err on the side of guaranteeing zero value in a move by a general manager?
Oh yeah, the amnesty, but we couldn't even get that right.
NEXT.
