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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1681 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Mar 5, 2021 10:58 am

A stat that makes you go, "Huh."...

Per BBRef, four of the top 10 highest offensive ratings in Celtics history came in the Stevens era:

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The other six were in the Bird era. The current season holds the 2nd highest lol.
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Post#1682 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Mar 5, 2021 2:54 pm

Some of this has to do with the way the league is officiated now plus the increase in the number of three point shots in the current "sprawl ball" era.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1683 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Mar 5, 2021 3:53 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Some of this has to do with the way the league is officiated now p;us the increase in the number of three point shots in the current "sprawl ball" era.

This is true to some extent.

Six of HOU's top 10 offensive ratings came when Harden was leading the team. Four of POR's top 7 came with Lillard. Same w/ MIL and Giannis. Two of DAL's top 3 with Doncic.

Only one of Lakers top 10 came in the last 10 seasons. You could guess which season.

The fact that Cs are doing this without a real offensive force and/or playmaker is still fascinating.
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Post#1684 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Mar 5, 2021 4:15 pm

This season's Cs are the definition of average. Very slightly above average, if we're being kind.

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Post#1686 » by bucknersrevenge » Fri Mar 5, 2021 4:49 pm

With so much focus on Brad this year and the question arising of whether or not he's still capable, I thought I'd take a moment to share one fan's opinion from another board:

"You know what... F**k it. I'll tell you what he's won.
He won 77.2% of his games as Butler's head coach. He took a team with 0 ESPN top 200 recruits to the national championship game TWICE in a row.

He's won 56.1% of his games in the NBA. That's a better winning percentage than Mike D'Antoni, Rudy Tomjanovich, Don Nelson, Rick Carlisle, Larry Brown, Frank Vogel, and Bill Russell despite having none of the hall of fame players those other coaches have had.

He's made the playoffs every year except his first one. He's been to the ECF 3 of the last 4 years despite having rosters that had no f**king business being there.

There isn't anyone literally on the planet I want coaching this team other than Brad Stevens."

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Post#1687 » by playa-hater » Fri Mar 5, 2021 6:16 pm

bucknersrevenge wrote:With so much focus on Brad this year and the question arising of whether or not he's still capable, I thought I'd take a moment to share one fan's opinion from another board:

"You know what... F**k it. I'll tell you what he's won.
He won 77.2% of his games as Butler's head coach. He took a team with 0 ESPN top 200 recruits to the national championship game TWICE in a row.

He's won 56.1% of his games in the NBA. That's a better winning percentage than Mike D'Antoni, Rudy Tomjanovich, Don Nelson, Rick Carlisle, Larry Brown, Frank Vogel, and Bill Russell despite having none of the hall of fame players those other coaches have had.

He's made the playoffs every year except his first one. He's been to the ECF 3 of the last 4 years despite having rosters that had no f**king business being there.

There isn't anyone literally on the planet I want coaching this team other than Brad Stevens."

Agree? Don't agree?


for the sake of peace and prosperity I stay out of this one. :D
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Post#1688 » by Parliament10 » Fri Mar 5, 2021 6:20 pm

bucknersrevenge wrote:With so much focus on Brad this year and the question arising of whether or not he's still capable, I thought I'd take a moment to share one fan's opinion from another board:

"You know what... F**k it. I'll tell you what he's won.
He won 77.2% of his games as Butler's head coach. He took a team with 0 ESPN top 200 recruits to the national championship game TWICE in a row.

He's won 56.1% of his games in the NBA. That's a better winning percentage than Mike D'Antoni, Rudy Tomjanovich, Don Nelson, Rick Carlisle, Larry Brown, Frank Vogel, and Bill Russell despite having none of the hall of fame players those other coaches have had.

He's made the playoffs every year except his first one. He's been to the ECF 3 of the last 4 years despite having rosters that had no f**king business being there.

There isn't anyone literally on the planet I want coaching this team other than Brad Stevens."

Agree? Don't agree?

Agree. Stevens is a good Coach. ECF 3 out of 4, is a good argument.
BUT -- He still needs to upgrade both his coaching style, and coaching staff.
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Post#1689 » by BostonCouchGM » Fri Mar 5, 2021 6:28 pm

Amazing what beating a few scrub teams in a row will do for fan’s confidence
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Post#1690 » by playa-hater » Fri Mar 5, 2021 7:05 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:Amazing what beating a few scrub teams in a row will do for fan’s confidence


I don't know. There are some fans, no matter what the outcomes, will support Stevens till their dying day. Stevens can lead them over the edge of the Grand Canyon and his followers say, "it's just a little crack" .
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Post#1691 » by Triple7 » Fri Mar 5, 2021 7:09 pm

bucknersrevenge wrote:With so much focus on Brad this year and the question arising of whether or not he's still capable, I thought I'd take a moment to share one fan's opinion from another board:

"You know what... F**k it. I'll tell you what he's won.
He won 77.2% of his games as Butler's head coach. He took a team with 0 ESPN top 200 recruits to the national championship game TWICE in a row.

He's won 56.1% of his games in the NBA. That's a better winning percentage than Mike D'Antoni, Rudy Tomjanovich, Don Nelson, Rick Carlisle, Larry Brown, Frank Vogel, and Bill Russell despite having none of the hall of fame players those other coaches have had.

He's made the playoffs every year except his first one. He's been to the ECF 3 of the last 4 years despite having rosters that had no f**king business being there.

There isn't anyone literally on the planet I want coaching this team other than Brad Stevens."

Agree? Don't agree?


:lol: That’s a fan boy talking right there. We don’t care what he’s done in the past. What we want is for him to adapt and improve.
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Post#1692 » by Triple7 » Fri Mar 5, 2021 7:21 pm

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bucknersrevenge wrote:With so much focus on Brad this year and the question arising of whether or not he's still capable, I thought I'd take a moment to share one fan's opinion from another board:

"You know what... F**k it. I'll tell you what he's won.
He won 77.2% of his games as Butler's head coach. He took a team with 0 ESPN top 200 recruits to the national championship game TWICE in a row.

He's won 56.1% of his games in the NBA. That's a better winning percentage than Mike D'Antoni, Rudy Tomjanovich, Don Nelson, Rick Carlisle, Larry Brown, Frank Vogel, and Bill Russell despite having none of the hall of fame players those other coaches have had.

He's made the playoffs every year except his first one. He's been to the ECF 3 of the last 4 years despite having rosters that had no f**king business being there.

There isn't anyone literally on the planet I want coaching this team other than Brad Stevens."

Agree? Don't agree?

Agree. Stevens is a good Coach. ECF 3 out of 4, is a good argument.
BUT -- He still needs to upgrade both his coaching style, and coaching staff.


I agree. People always brings up the 3 out of 4 conf finals. That’s a thing of the past already. I agree he needs to improve and adapt. Teams already know his style. It’s too predictable, and it’s not working already.
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Post#1693 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Mar 5, 2021 8:18 pm

bucknersrevenge wrote:With so much focus on Brad this year and the question arising of whether or not he's still capable, I thought I'd take a moment to share one fan's opinion from another board:

"You know what... F**k it. I'll tell you what he's won.
He won 77.2% of his games as Butler's head coach. He took a team with 0 ESPN top 200 recruits to the national championship game TWICE in a row.

He's won 56.1% of his games in the NBA. That's a better winning percentage than Mike D'Antoni, Rudy Tomjanovich, Don Nelson, Rick Carlisle, Larry Brown, Frank Vogel, and Bill Russell despite having none of the hall of fame players those other coaches have had.

He's made the playoffs every year except his first one. He's been to the ECF 3 of the last 4 years despite having rosters that had no f**king business being there.

There isn't anyone literally on the planet I want coaching this team other than Brad Stevens."

Agree? Don't agree?

I've been making that argument forever. Brad's 3 best players: a midget with a bad hip, a malcontent who quit mid-series, and a 19-yo. None are HOF locks at the time he coached them.

We can all argue about the things he can improve on and hasn't but ultimately, he needs the top-end talent. Vogel and Lue wouldn't have won anything without LeBron. Players win you titles, not coaches. I'd rather have prime MJ and Brad than prime Tatum and Phil Jackson right now.

I think we put our players on pedestals too much that any failure by the team automatically reflects on the coach. Do we really think we have a top 10 player right now?
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Post#1694 » by Shak_Celts » Sat Mar 6, 2021 12:15 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:This season's Cs are the definition of average. Very slightly above average, if we're being kind.

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Post#1695 » by Bleeding Green » Sat Mar 6, 2021 2:25 am

Look at the Kings and how many of their players you all want to trade for lmao
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Post#1696 » by Shak_Celts » Sat Mar 6, 2021 3:31 am

Bleeding Green wrote:Look at the Kings and how many of their players you all want to trade for lmao


Look at Minny and people still want KAT. A lot of terrible teams have had good-great players. We don't want the whole team or the people running things over our own.
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Post#1697 » by LoquaciousLarry » Sat Mar 6, 2021 3:43 am

Shak_Celts wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:Look at the Kings and how many of their players you all want to trade for lmao


Look at Minny and people still want KAT. A lot of terible teams have had good-great players. We don't want the whole team or the people running things over our own.


Exactly, I agree. The league is built for parity so the worst teams like the Kings are consistently drafting top prospects. What they do with those prospects is up to them, but some of the worst teams have access to the best talent. Its wise to get talented players from teams that underachieve. You're not gonna find too many sellers on winning teams.
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Post#1698 » by SMTBSI » Sat Mar 6, 2021 3:45 am

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BostonCouchGM wrote:Amazing what beating a few scrub teams in a row will do for fan’s confidence

I don't know. There are some fans, no matter what the outcomes, will support Stevens till their dying day. Stevens can lead them over the edge of the Grand Canyon and his followers say, "it's just a little crack" .

Eh, Grand Canyon's not as tough as you think. I've single-day rim-to-rimmed 9 times (5x north-to-north, 2x south-to-south, 1x north-to-south, and 1x south-to-north). And each and every time, there have been dozens of people in much better shape cruising past my slow ass. And dozens more in worse shape trudging along taking their time. If coach wants me to head on down for another go, I'm game.
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Post#1699 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Mar 6, 2021 7:37 am

During the midseason break, I usually re-watch some of our best games. I can't think of any this season lol. Might just watch our playoff series vs TOR.
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Post#1700 » by Tyakack » Sat Mar 6, 2021 10:46 am

I've kind of mentally checked out of the season once harden went to the nets. My interest in this season is at an embarrassing low level at this point. Add in the fact I don't believe in this team at all *or even like them really*. Or our coach... And I'm real close to not believing in our GM either. I'm tired of having seasons where our team has no realistic shot to even get to the finals. The one year we had a realistic shot to get to the finals we still lost before doing so because our coach is overrated. I'm tired of these foregone conclusion seasons. They are boring as hell after awhile. All I want is a realistic chance and I can live with the results. I want a real contender.

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