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Way too early NBA draft thread 2021

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If we manage to get 3rd pick who do you draft?

Evan Mobley
21
14%
Jalen Suggs
89
61%
Terrence Clarke
1
1%
Jonathan Kuminga
9
6%
Ziaire Williams
1
1%
Usman Guruba
2
1%
Jalen Johnson
2
1%
Terrence Clarke
0
No votes
BJ Boston
3
2%
None of the Above
18
12%
 
Total votes: 146

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Re: Way too early NBA draft thread 2021 

Post#561 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Mon Mar 1, 2021 10:00 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Green has a much larger frame than Zach, especially at that age. I think he projects as a much better defender. And he’s already scoring at all three levels.

Other than scoring basically anywhere he wants to, I don’t see much else in comparison with Lavine.

He’s closer to Edwards than Lavine IMO, except he projects better than Edwards. Edwards gets drafted after him in this draft IMO.

wait he has a much larger frame than Lavine? Are we talking about the same person?

Edwards is the one in a different weight class.


Yeah, I think he does. This is a bit subjective, but his shoulders are much broader, I think he fills out and becomes a much stronger player than Lavine, much more quickly. Lavine is a finesse player that plays smaller than his listed measurables, I expect Green to do the exact opposite.

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Post#562 » by No-Man » Mon Mar 1, 2021 10:19 pm

Green's frame is anything but broad, he plays physical which is encouraging but the guy's strength is a concern not a plus
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Post#563 » by No-Man » Mon Mar 1, 2021 10:25 pm

Chi town wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:I think Green is very similar to Lavine in style, talent, and likely weaknesses at that age.

Problem he may have is that it's a very difficult style to translate to actual positive impact on the court. This is probably the first year Lavine has pulled it off and it has required him to put up some preposterously good shooting percentages.


Green is light years ahead as a defender. He’s probably close to NBA average right now. Zach was like Trae young level worst in the league.

Have you watched Ignite? :lol: they have all been terrible on D, come on now, no chance
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Post#564 » by Leslie Forman » Mon Mar 1, 2021 10:43 pm

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:wait he has a much larger frame than Lavine? Are we talking about the same person?

Edwards is the one in a different weight class.


Yeah, I think he does. This is a bit subjective, but his shoulders are much broader, I think he fills out and becomes a much stronger player than Lavine, much more quickly. Lavine is a finesse player that plays smaller than his listed measurables, I expect Green to do the exact opposite.

I'll back you up here on this one. Green definitely has a big wide frame that he could fill out and end up looking like a superhero with. I would not be surprised at all if, after a few years of injecting eating those Giannis "vitamins" he actually ends up with an Anthony Edwards-type body.
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Re: Way too early NBA draft thread 2021 

Post#565 » by Am2626 » Tue Mar 2, 2021 9:16 pm

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Green has a much larger frame than Zach, especially at that age. I think he projects as a much better defender. And he’s already scoring at all three levels.

Other than scoring basically anywhere he wants to, I don’t see much else in comparison with Lavine.

He’s closer to Edwards than Lavine IMO, except he projects better than Edwards. Edwards gets drafted after him in this draft IMO.

wait he has a much larger frame than Lavine? Are we talking about the same person?

Edwards is the one in a different weight class.


Yeah, I think he does. This is a bit subjective, but his shoulders are much broader, I think he fills out and becomes a much stronger player than Lavine, much more quickly. Lavine is a finesse player that plays smaller than his listed measurables, I expect Green to do the exact opposite.

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Any of the below guys would go #1 in the last draft...

Cade
Suggs
Mobley
Green
Kuminga
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Re: Way too early NBA draft thread 2021 

Post#566 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Tue Mar 2, 2021 10:19 pm

Am2626 wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:wait he has a much larger frame than Lavine? Are we talking about the same person?

Edwards is the one in a different weight class.


Yeah, I think he does. This is a bit subjective, but his shoulders are much broader, I think he fills out and becomes a much stronger player than Lavine, much more quickly. Lavine is a finesse player that plays smaller than his listed measurables, I expect Green to do the exact opposite.

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Any of the below guys would go #1 in the last draft...

Cade
Suggs
Mobley
Green
Kuminga


That may very well be true, but knowing what do today, I’m not sure I’d take any of them over LaMelo.
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Re: Way too early NBA draft thread 2021 

Post#567 » by Chi town » Tue Mar 2, 2021 11:30 pm

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:


That may very well be true, but knowing what do today, I’m not sure I’d take any of them over LaMelo.[/quote]

Lamelo looking like the next Luka.
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Post#568 » by Am2626 » Wed Mar 3, 2021 1:33 am

Chi town wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:


That may very well be true, but knowing what do today, I’m not sure I’d take any of them over LaMelo.


Lamelo looking like the next Luka.[/quote]

You think the Bulls FO would have drafted LaMelo had they had the opportunity?
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Post#569 » by Am2626 » Wed Mar 3, 2021 1:35 am

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Am2626 wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:
Yeah, I think he does. This is a bit subjective, but his shoulders are much broader, I think he fills out and becomes a much stronger player than Lavine, much more quickly. Lavine is a finesse player that plays smaller than his listed measurables, I expect Green to do the exact opposite.

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Any of the below guys would go #1 in the last draft...

Cade
Suggs
Mobley
Green
Kuminga


That may very well be true, but knowing what do today, I’m not sure I’d take any of them over LaMelo.


We really should ask this question a year from now so that we can see how each of them do in the NBA.
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Post#570 » by Leslie Forman » Wed Mar 3, 2021 2:13 am

The Michigan prospects are really gonna have to play better than that in the tournament…
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Post#571 » by TheSuzerain » Wed Mar 3, 2021 2:22 am

Leslie Forman wrote:The Michigan prospects are really gonna have to play better than that in the tournament…

Yeah they got drilled tonight.

Burn the tapes situation.

Illini are impressive though. Fun team this year.
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Post#572 » by Chi town » Wed Mar 3, 2021 4:29 am

Am2626 wrote:
Chi town wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:


That may very well be true, but knowing what do today, I’m not sure I’d take any of them over LaMelo.


Lamelo looking like the next Luka.


You think the Bulls FO would have drafted LaMelo had they had the opportunity?[/quote]

Knowing what AK knows now you’d have to think he would have traded WCJ to move up and get Melo.
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Post#573 » by Almost Retired » Wed Mar 3, 2021 8:59 pm

My Draft Wish List for the range we are likely to be drafting:
First Rounder: Kispert or Dosunmu
Second Ronger: Kofi Cockburn or Ibou Badji
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Post#575 » by Chi town » Thu Mar 4, 2021 5:45 am

Almost Retired wrote:My Draft Wish List for the range we are likely to be drafting:
First Rounder: Kispert or Dosunmu
Second Ronger: Kofi Cockburn or Ibou Badji


I’d be very happy with Kispert or Ayo. Both great fits and will be in the rotation day one.
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Post#576 » by No-Man » Thu Mar 4, 2021 10:34 am

pre-draft, not talking about what Melo has done, I'd have had LaMelo 2nd in this class, only an argument with Suggs and I am still taking LaMelo
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Post#578 » by No-Man » Thu Mar 4, 2021 11:23 pm

I feel pretty good about my top3 tiers

Cade Cunningham

Jalen Suggs
Evan Mobley
Jalen Green

Jonathan Kuminga
Keon Johnson
Moses Moody
Ziaire Williams
James Bouknight
Kai Jones
Franz Wagner
Bennedict Mathurin
Jaden Springer
Santi Aldama
Corey Kispert
Alperen Şengün

Garuba, Giddey, Barnes and Jalen Johnson or Cooper would close my top20 and are the closest to have a shot to jump to tier III

wings with size and shooting dry up fast and in a hurry imo, Kessler Edwards, Trey Murphy III probably the best of the rest for the top45 (Henry, TSJ don't quite cut it as shooters)

in draft night and if the Bulls end up in the predictable 9-11 range, the guys I like that I think make sense there (if you dont move up or down) are Moses Moody, Ziaire Williams, the others are probably bound to be available later on (Kai, Kispert, Wagner, Mathurin) although who knows in June and I'd still gamble on them, or not at all probably (Keon, Bouknight I expect to go higher)

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Post#579 » by HouseOfLight » Fri Mar 5, 2021 5:12 pm

It’s CC, Kuminga, & everyone else imo. Green is going to get bullied in the actual NBA. Kuminga is just so powerful, his ability to shove guys off the block is unprecedented & is a monstrously elite trait unto itself. He doesn’t even need to get crafty to free up a shot in some cases, defenders merely bounce right off of him. That Congolese warrior strength

Suggs is going to be an offensive powerhouse from day one, but he’s going to struggle mightily on D imo

I just don’t see it with Mobley, aside from the obvious stuff. I don’t see the natural hunger & intensity. I don’t think he will live up to the hype, and if he does, I think it’ll be quite a few years into his career, and it’ll be brief
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Post#580 » by gobullschi » Fri Mar 5, 2021 7:40 pm

I don’t think the Bulls will be able to draft a lot of the guys being discussed on here.

The one guy that I’m hoping falls to the Bulls is Jalen Johnson. He has struggled with some health issues and opted out of the rest of the college season, so he could fall in the 10-18 range.

He is oozing with potential and had the versatility to play the 2-4. His Ball handling and playmaking ability for a player his size is what stands out most. With the way the NBA is trending towards using forwards as playmakers, he’s a guy that the Bulls should target. AK has shown he’s willing to gamble on a player with health issues (MPJ).

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