Pointgod wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Pointgod wrote:
Kamala can’t just include it in there. They need 50 votes to override the parliamentarian or fire the parliamentarian and put one in that would allow it to be included. This is why overriding the parliamentarian was never a real thing because you couldn’t get 50 votes for minimum wage through budget reconciliation as you can see.
Got it. I just did some quick reading up on it. You are correct. There was nothing "dishonest" about my post. I was simply "mistaken."
So that's it for a $15 minimum wage. That's really sad in this country. I don't know what happened to Sinema. She was the most progressive Arizona state legislator before being elected to the Senate. Now she's gone all Sarah Palin on us.
The dishonest part wasn’t your post necessarily but the article framed it that Democrats voted against minimum wage. I’ve seen that framing all over Twitter and it’s borderline misinformation. What they voted for was against adding minimum wage to the reconciliation bill, the same topic that was already taken out of the bill and the parliamentarian said couldn’t be included. We knew it wasn’t going to pass so the vote was pretty meaningless, but that being said I don’t know why other Senators went on the record to vote against it when it’s a procedural vote. Really stupid politics, let Manchin and Sinema hang themselves out to dry on the issue. What needs to happen is that the House needs to pass a standalone bill and these 8 Senators need to get the same pressure Republicans did during the Kavanaugh hearing and threats of primaries. The whole procedural issue is explained better than I can below:
Right, I was confused by the media reports. It was a vote on the point of procedure re overruling the parliamentarian. I thought Bernie brought some stand alone bill to the floor. He did not.
Anyhow, do you know if these eight Democrats made any statements on the floor about their votes, to wit, "I'm simply voting 'Nay' based on procedural grounds but I fully support an increase to $15. I'll vote 'Yes' in a stand alone bill"? Because, if not, then that's bad.
Let's face it, if these 8 Dems won't vote to overrule a parliamentarian, they certainly are not going to vote to nuke the filibuster.
