20-21 OKC Thunder Regular Season News

Post #361 » by **ThunderBolt** » Thu Mar 4, 2021 2:24 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:Wouldn't complain if SGA underperform this month

Jerome & Maledon doing pretty well.

I would love for them to develop. I’m just having a hard time seeing Dort becoming reliable offensively. I wouldn’t mind moving him for a better piece.

I think Dort is close to his ceiling and could really help a contender. Given his incredible contract, we could really get a nice return for him.

I don't think Presti agrees though (and he's a fan favorite so it doesn't help)

I do agree that Presti is partial to his own picks which is one reason I think we’ve seen more of Bazley than Roby. I do think our fans will be a favorite of any player that’s playing well.

spearsy23 · Post #362 » by **spearsy23** » Thu Mar 4, 2021 3:32 pm

If dort is
Close to his ceiling
A valuable piece for a contender
Not good enough to hurt the tank
Young
On a great contract

Why would we want to trade him? So we can end up with Shai and the next KD and then spend ten years not able to acquire that role-playing wing we need?

Post #363 » by **Dadouv47** » Thu Mar 4, 2021 3:41 pm

His contract will be over once we will have a good team, so his current great contract is almost irrelevant to us (and is more valuable to a contender that has little cap space left).

We have 17 FRPs to acquire a good role playing wing...that should be enough.

Also not sure Dort is the kind of wing you badly want to keep to contend for the future...

Post #364 » by **Dadouv47** » Thu Mar 4, 2021 3:49 pm

Again it all depends on what you think about Dort and mostly what a team would be willing to offer for him. I could see him being way more valuable in the next 2 years for a team like the Sixers that could use him coming from the bench and defend against Harden or Kyre in the playoffs.

spearsy23 · Post #365 » by **spearsy23** » Thu Mar 4, 2021 11:37 pm

Nah, there's no justification for wanting to get rid of a good young player for..... the chance to draft a similar player if you're lucky?

Post #366 » by **Dadouv47** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 2:52 am

spearsy23 wrote:Nah, there's no justification for wanting to get rid of a good young player for..... the chance to draft a similar player if you're lucky?

I guess we just disagree on Dort's potential. I really like him but I don't see a starter on a contender/championship team. I hope I'm wrong though....time will tell.

Post #367 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 4:30 am

Oh we won another game against a meh team. What’s even great for our long term future is the second best player tonight was Mike Muscala. Cool.

thedoppelganger · Post #368 » by **thedoppelganger** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 4:50 am

ThunderBolt wrote:Oh we won another game against a meh team. What’s even great for our long term future is the second best player tonight was Mike Muscala. Cool.

And our third best was Kenrich Williams who is somehow having a Renaissance year with us. But hey at least we’ve got this cool stat that definitely isn’t annoying

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Post #369 » by **Dadouv47** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 10:25 am

ThunderBolt wrote:Oh we won another game against a meh team. What’s even great for our long term future is the second best player tonight was Mike Muscala. Cool.

SGA is that good

SGA and some decent players playing with high competitiveness are able to be a play in team... :banghead:

Post #370 » by **Dadouv47** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 10:39 am

SGA passing ability yesterday was pretty good.

Post #371 » by **Dadouv47** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 10:56 am

I was 100% for a slow rebuild process but with SGA being that good, other young players overperforming and with the new lottery odds, it may be better to trade a good amount of picks to improve our roster with other good prospects (or move up into this draft, not easy to do). It's already difficult enough to tank this season so it should be harder next year if our players are healthy and we draft well enough.
At this point I even think it may be worth trading for John Collins...

Post #372 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 11:13 am

Dadouv47 wrote:I was 100% for a slow rebuild process but with SGA being that good, other young players overperforming and the new lottery odds, it may be better to trade a good amount of picks to improve our roster with other good prospects (or move up into this draft). It's already difficult enough to tank this season so it should be harder next year if our players are healthy and we draft well enough.
At this point I even think it may be worth trading for John Collins...

What’s unfortunate is that really isn’t a great use of assets. I’m all for consolidating picks for better players but when it is done to the fact that we can’t even tank appropriately it seems like a waste of assets. Out of desperation I’m talking myself into some other guys outside the top five that might have all star potential.

Post #373 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 11:30 am

Although I’m thoroughly annoyed with the poor tanking effort, I’m thrilled with Shai. He’s just an absolute stud and probably one of the most underrated players in the league right now. I just want to have a solid number two alongside him.

Post #374 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 11:42 am

I don’t believe in karma and I’m not saying I believe the lottery is rigged. But we freaking deserve a good pick. The league doesn’t want teams tanking and changed the lottery odds to reward teams that tried to stay competitive. We’ve done that. Also, good players won’t go here and rot in the league like KAT or Beal. We’ve been screwed by the CBA in the past on more than one occasion. I never knew a win going in to the all star break could leave such a bitter taste in my mouth.

Post #375 » by **Dadouv47** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 12:14 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:I don’t believe in karma and I’m not saying I believe the lottery is rigged. But we freaking deserve a good pick. The league doesn’t want teams tanking and changed the lottery odds to reward teams that tried to stay competitive. We’ve done that. Also, good players won’t go here and rot in the league like KAT or Beal. We’ve been screwed by the CBA in the past on more than one occasion. I never knew a win going in to the all star break could leave such a bitter taste in my mouth.

Feel the same. But we are so unlucky that Houston will get their top 4 pick while Gs will get a top 4-5 pick (yeah, I'm pessimistic). :banghead:

Feel we missed on a title years ago because of lack of luck (and some mistakes from Presti & players for sure) and I'm afraid we could be unlucky again in the rebuild process.

Before this season I would say that the easy way would be to trade SGA but now that he's playing like a legit all star player with a lot of upside, we need to figure a way to surround him with good players ASAP. Right now he's having fun on the court (it's pretty cool to watch him smiling all the time) but in 2 years it probably won't be the same if we have an average roster...

If Presti decides to accelerate the rebuild, Dort is obviously a keeper (I mentioned the possibility of trading him thinking about a slow rebuild process). No clue what to think about Bazley anymore...

Post #376 » by **Dadouv47** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 1:41 am

Poku back...hope he will play better (well it won't be difficult :lol:

)

SGA should have been an all star over Conley but whatever...

Post #377 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 1:41 pm

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Dn4sty · Post #378 » by **Dn4sty** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 7:15 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:I was 100% for a slow rebuild process but with SGA being that good, other young players overperforming and the new lottery odds, it may be better to trade a good amount of picks to improve our roster with other good prospects (or move up into this draft). It's already difficult enough to tank this season so it should be harder next year if our players are healthy and we draft well enough.
At this point I even think it may be worth trading for John Collins...

What’s unfortunate is that really isn’t a great use of assets. I’m all for consolidating picks for better players but when it is done to the fact that we can’t even tank appropriately it seems like a waste of assets. Out of desperation I’m talking myself into some other guys outside the top five that might have all star potential.

What player(s) do you have in mind? I know we’ve discussed Collins a bunch, but is there anyone else.

I know that GTJ has been kicked around as well, but I’d like to here if there are other names

Post #379 » by **Dadouv47** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 8:32 pm

Dn4sty wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:I was 100% for a slow rebuild process but with SGA being that good, other young players overperforming and the new lottery odds, it may be better to trade a good amount of picks to improve our roster with other good prospects (or move up into this draft). It's already difficult enough to tank this season so it should be harder next year if our players are healthy and we draft well enough.
At this point I even think it may be worth trading for John Collins...

What’s unfortunate is that really isn’t a great use of assets. I’m all for consolidating picks for better players but when it is done to the fact that we can’t even tank appropriately it seems like a waste of assets. Out of desperation I’m talking myself into some other guys outside the top five that might have all star potential.

What player(s) do you have in mind? I know we’ve discussed Collins a bunch, but is there anyone else.

I know that GTJ has been kicked around as well, but I’d like to here if there are other names

As a difference maker, I only see Collins indeed. We could give a shot to guys like Lonzo Ball, Monk or Mo Bamba (no clue if Bamba is available but he's not playing a lot). Maybe we will have to wait next season for that...
I guess we will likely wait the draft to see what kind of players we need.

Post #380 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 10:22 pm

Dn4sty wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:I was 100% for a slow rebuild process but with SGA being that good, other young players overperforming and the new lottery odds, it may be better to trade a good amount of picks to improve our roster with other good prospects (or move up into this draft). It's already difficult enough to tank this season so it should be harder next year if our players are healthy and we draft well enough.
At this point I even think it may be worth trading for John Collins...

What’s unfortunate is that really isn’t a great use of assets. I’m all for consolidating picks for better players but when it is done to the fact that we can’t even tank appropriately it seems like a waste of assets. Out of desperation I’m talking myself into some other guys outside the top five that might have all star potential.

What player(s) do you have in mind? I know we’ve discussed Collins a bunch, but is there anyone else.

I know that GTJ has been kicked around as well, but I’d like to here if there are other names

That’s tough. Lauri? I think he can get better but he’s definitely a risk. Will the Knicks pursuit of win now talent cause them to move Barrett? They shouldn’t but you never know. I think the clock is ticking on Fox in Sacramento if they don’t turn things around. I don’t know how he would fit with shai but I like fox. There aren’t lots of great options right now.