Shams: Blake Griffin signs with the Nets! (Vets Minimum Deal)

[Hello Brooklyn]

I'm just over this "rim protector" nonsense. We play best when play small. We don't need a rim protector.

Jordan will provide enough of that if need be. But I would rather plays lineups with Claxton, Green and Griffin if we get him.

That makes more sense then bring in freaking Javale McGee who sucks and couldn't even crack the Lakers playoff rotation last year.

[Paradise]

I can see Center minutes for blake. but on no planet is he a better 5 man then Jordan at this point in their careers. Also, the two had insane chemistry in LA, id play them together when possible

You’re bugging. Griffin is much better than Jordan even at his worst.

He’s done alot more in Detroit than Jordan has done in Dallas, NY, BK.

Not as a center and certainly not as a rim protector or roll man. it isnt even remotely close.

I agree with that which is why I think folks need to see that he’s closer to being a below the rim version of Aaron Gordon right now than some interior threat. He’s capable of 6 threes in a game here and there which is still a need.

We would still be left with open roster spots depending on what happens with Dinwiddie.

[Openheimer]

All Blake has to do is do what Bruce brown is doing. Pretty much let Harden use him like Harden is using Bruce and all is good. Blake is also a really good passer and an 40 percent three point shooter

[sashaturiaf]

Still think Blake is not a good fit at all

But the "he can't be any worse than TLC" argument is a very convincing one.

[MrDollarBills]

Still think Blake is not a good fit at all

But the "he can't be any worse than TLC" argument is a very convincing one.

I mean the bar is so low you'll need a shovel and a pick axe to reach it.

I'll take the guy. It adds to our bench depth.

[Sharcm1]

I’m honestly starting to think it’s a perfect fit. For him and for the team. Hope they get him. We will find out Sunday or Monday. If they had to give up something to get then I would think twice. But they don’t. Just money. And the owner seems to have plenty of that. So what’s the big deal for everyone

He will take up a roster spot occupied by a g-league player on a 10 day contract. Big loss there. Even if someone else comes available through waivers soon the nets could still sign that other player as they have a MLE and the DPE to use still. One goes to blake and one can go to the other player. Again three roster spots currently taken up by useless players on 10 day contracts. People here act like these guys are important to the team, Roberson is only playing because TLC, Durant and green are injured. Won’t play after they come back, shumpert doesn’t play at all and cook only in garbage time.

If blake can come in. Give 10-15 mins of rebounding, screen and rolls/pops. And some defense he will be fine, he can catch alley oops from harden, open threes and some layups off easy plays. He doesn’t have to be the man with the nets, he can play a role.

[MrDollarBills]

I'm trying to see where Blake fits in the rotation.

Jordan and Claxton have center on lock. There is no way you can sit Claxton anymore. He has been excellent on both ends of the floor.

Durant and Green are PF. I'm not cutting Green's minutes the dude has been shooting 41% from downtown.

Where is Blake getting minutes?

Ideally we play 9-10 guys a night: Harden, Kyrie, Durant, Harris, Jordan, Brown, Green, Shamet, Claxton. These are locks in the rotation (Shamet is shooting 36% from downtown now on the season, I don't wanna hear any nonsense). That means the last spot is between Griffin and Johnson. Johnson has been excellent from downtown.

I dunno. I like the signing but what will Blake's role be here?

[HardenGoat]

The underappreciated part of Blake’s game is his passing ability. I could see him very involved with finding the open cutter like Kyrie plus he is an excellent pick and roll player. I saw a stat showing he is still finishing shots at 61.2% from the roll which is higher than Aaron Gordon. The fact the every contender is trying to get him also speaks volumes. Keep him off the Lakers please.

[Basileus777]

I'm trying to see where Blake fits in the rotation.

Jordan and Claxton have center on lock. There is no way you can sit Claxton anymore. He has been excellent on both ends of the floor.

Durant and Green are PF. I'm not cutting Green's minutes the dude has been shooting 41% from downtown.

Where is Blake getting minutes?

Ideally we play 9-10 guys a night: Harden, Kyrie, Durant, Harris, Jordan, Brown, Green, Shamet, Claxton. These are locks in the rotation (Shamet is shooting 36% from downtown now on the season, I don't wanna hear any nonsense). That means the last spot is between Griffin and Johnson. Johnson has been excellent from downtown.

I dunno. I like the signing but what will Blake's role be here?

Claxton and Green will inevitably lose minutes, which is what I'm not thrilled with.

[CalamityX12]

Claxton is playing great but he'll need his minutes monitored, can't be thrown out there for long usage after months of injuries. Blake could provide backup minutes...

One thing though, as some opened my eyes about, I am good for Blake to come in but we did need a rim protector. As well as give us some big man type counters against bigger teams

[Hello Brooklyn]

I'm trying to see where Blake fits in the rotation.

Jordan and Claxton have center on lock. There is no way you can sit Claxton anymore. He has been excellent on both ends of the floor.

Durant and Green are PF. I'm not cutting Green's minutes the dude has been shooting 41% from downtown.

Where is Blake getting minutes?

Ideally we play 9-10 guys a night: Harden, Kyrie, Durant, Harris, Jordan, Brown, Green, Shamet, Claxton. These are locks in the rotation (Shamet is shooting 36% from downtown now on the season, I don't wanna hear any nonsense). That means the last spot is between Griffin and Johnson. Johnson has been excellent from downtown.

I dunno. I like the signing but what will Blake's role be here?

I mean in our lineups the 3 and 4 are basically interchangeable.

I would play Blake at the 5 and move Claxton to the 4. Then put most of Green or KD's minutes at the 3.

I do like Johnson though so it would suck to cut his minutes.

[Prokorov]

I'm just over this "rim protector" nonsense. We play best when play small. We don't need a rim protector.

Jordan will provide enough of that if need be. But I would rather plays lineups with Claxton, Green and Griffin if we get him.

That makes more sense then bring in freaking Javale McGee who sucks and couldn't even crack the Lakers playoff rotation last year.

They had Dwight and AD. its not like they lacked in that area.

We are better with Jordan at center on BOTH ends then any other big. And if Jordan gets hurt, we have 0 rim protection other then whatever claxton/KD provide which is a few blocks but little over resistance

[Prokorov]

You’re bugging. Griffin is much better than Jordan even at his worst.

He’s done alot more in Detroit than Jordan has done in Dallas, NY, BK.

Not as a center and certainly not as a rim protector or roll man. it isnt even remotely close.

I agree with that which is why I think folks need to see that he’s closer to being a below the rim version of Aaron Gordon right now than some interior threat. He’s capable of 6 threes in a game here and there which is still a need.

We would still be left with open roster spots depending on what happens with Dinwiddie.

Im happy to add him. its 0 risk moderate reward proposition. and if anything its stretch-5/small ball insurance if green got hurt and/or claxton played like a rookie in big spot sin the playoffs.

But the idea he starts and plays 25+ minutes to me is more then wishful thinking

[Prokorov]

All Blake has to do is do what Bruce brown is doing. Pretty much let Harden use him like Harden is using Bruce and all is good. Blake is also a really good passer and an 40 percent three point shooter

im with you on the bruce brown part. offensively he is basically brown and green all in one and maybe better then both at what they each do best.

but 40% three point shooter?

that was once in his career on less then 1 attempt per game 7 years ago: the last 5 seasons its:

31, 24, 36 35, 34

add an uptick for more open looks as a stretch 5 next to stars but this isnt like bringing in kevin love

[Prokorov]

I'm trying to see where Blake fits in the rotation.

Jordan and Claxton have center on lock. There is no way you can sit Claxton anymore. He has been excellent on both ends of the floor.

Durant and Green are PF. I'm not cutting Green's minutes the dude has been shooting 41% from downtown.

Where is Blake getting minutes?

Ideally we play 9-10 guys a night: Harden, Kyrie, Durant, Harris, Jordan, Brown, Green, Shamet, Claxton. These are locks in the rotation (Shamet is shooting 36% from downtown now on the season, I don't wanna hear any nonsense). That means the last spot is between Griffin and Johnson. Johnson has been excellent from downtown.

I dunno. I like the signing but what will Blake's role be here?

To me his is Green Insurance as a stretch Big and a vet presence for when claxton undoubtedly will hit a stretch of inconsistency like all young players do. Another consideration is he sees time when KD/Kyrie are both out of the lineup and he plays PF between brown and jordan or between brown and claxton.

He helps our depth. and he provides insurance if green went down. and he would have an opportunity to prove us all wrong if he really has just been dogging it.

[Prokorov]

I'm trying to see where Blake fits in the rotation.

Jordan and Claxton have center on lock. There is no way you can sit Claxton anymore. He has been excellent on both ends of the floor.

Durant and Green are PF. I'm not cutting Green's minutes the dude has been shooting 41% from downtown.

Where is Blake getting minutes?

Ideally we play 9-10 guys a night: Harden, Kyrie, Durant, Harris, Jordan, Brown, Green, Shamet, Claxton. These are locks in the rotation (Shamet is shooting 36% from downtown now on the season, I don't wanna hear any nonsense). That means the last spot is between Griffin and Johnson. Johnson has been excellent from downtown.

I dunno. I like the signing but what will Blake's role be here?

I mean in our lineups the 3 and 4 are basically interchangeable.

I would play Blake at the 5 and move Claxton to the 4. Then put most of Green or KD's minutes at the 3.

I do like Johnson though so it would suck to cut his minutes.

Yeah i think Johnson and Brown have really helped the turnaround defensively and sustaining leads when we go to the bench. I think you can certainly play blake and claxton together.

To me this move reminds alot of Lebrons final year in cleveland when they brought in wade off waivers after a buyout with the bulls. the assumetion was he would be more motivated with lebron, on a contender, and was going through the motions in chicago. in realtiy, while those things were all true, he was also still pretty washed and was a negligble add who provided more in presence they he did in play.

Blake probably has more in the tank now then a 36 year old wade did, but i think its a good comparision to temper expectations

[Papi_swav]

I don't think Blake can even dunk anymore

[kan_t]

They likely try to avoid KD playing too much 4 or 5 in the regular season. They also don't have anyone playing similar role to Green if he gets hurt. Griffin shall be able to fill that role as a depth piece. If they sign him, it's for strengthening the strength instead of addressing the weakness.

And the Nets would still have a DPE/ mini MLE to improve the team if the right player is available in buyout market.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I'm just over this "rim protector" nonsense. We play best when play small. We don't need a rim protector.

Jordan will provide enough of that if need be. But I would rather plays lineups with Claxton, Green and Griffin if we get him.

That makes more sense then bring in freaking Javale McGee who sucks and couldn't even crack the Lakers playoff rotation last year.

They had Dwight and AD. its not like they lacked in that area.

We are better with Jordan at center on BOTH ends then any other big. And if Jordan gets hurt, we have 0 rim protection other then whatever claxton/KD provide which is a few blocks but little over resistance

Dwight hardly played in the Houston series or in the Finals. He was played off the floor.

We don't have anyone close to AD's caliber nor could we acquire someone like that. And AD isn't a traditional rim protector either as he is agile and switches a lot.

I don't think McGee gives us anything better than Claxton to be honest. Claxton is better in every way.

But if were that worried about Jordan getting hurt we can just sign him or someone else to ride the bench. I wouldn't have any interest in playing them unless Jordan got injured.

Signing Griffin doesn't really change that possibility.

[therealbig3]

I mean, I think we’re drastically overrating Jordan’s abilities on either side of the court, and his presence as a rim protector. I’ve seen teams embarrass us in the paint with Jordan in the game, sometimes even more so than when we have Green at C. Nobody is scared of him in the paint, guards finish over him and grab rebounds over him all the time. People are acting like he’s prime Dikembe out there, when he’s barely an improvement in the paint over anyone else we have, which is why he’s playing. But there are plenty of matchups where it would just be better to play Green or Griffin or Brown at the 5 instead of Jordan. You’ll get comparable defense and better offense.