Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?)

[whocurrz]

What do you guys think about this

Wiseman + Wolves FRP + Oubre

for

Sabonis + Lamb + McDermott


I think Sabonis will be lethal on a team like Warriors, and Lamb and McDermott are great depth pieces. Gives the Warriors a chance to compete this year, and they'll be even better next year when Klay returns

No to trading that Minny pick. Also don’t think Indy wants to part with Sabonis. They have two bigs and will deal one of them, but I see them dealing Turner eventually.

[whatisacenter]

I like lowry and i know he will be huge for us..i am ok to give up wiseman and oubre for him maybe adding filler and 2nd pick

You would give up Wiseman for a guy that will be a free agent this summer?

SnT

Maybe you weren't paying attention when the Warriors did the S&T for DLo but that would hard-cap the team and make it impossible to round out the roster. That was ok for the gap year after losing KD and Klay to miss the season but they can't go through that again and expect to compete in the near future.

[xdrta+]

You would give up Wiseman for a guy that will be a free agent this summer?

SnT

Maybe you weren't paying attention when the Warriors did the S&T for DLo but that would hard-cap the team and make it impossible to round out the roster. That was ok for the gap year after losing KD and Klay to miss the season but they can't go through that again and expect to compete in the near future.

You're right that the Warriors don't want to hard-cap themselves, but to do a S&T you have to be under the Apron to start with, which I can't see the Warriors being in the foreseeable future. So it's a non-starter to begin with.

[cpower]

SnT

Maybe you weren't paying attention when the Warriors did the S&T for DLo but that would hard-cap the team and make it impossible to round out the roster. That was ok for the gap year after losing KD and Klay to miss the season but they can't go through that again and expect to compete in the near future.

You're right that the Warriors don't want to hard-cap themselves, but to do a S&T you have to be under the Apron to start with, which I can't see the Warriors being in the foreseeable future. So it's a non-starter to begin with.

Curry has wasted 2 years of prime training rookies. Thats not a top 10 all time players responsibility. We need to make a final push or we may lose curry to another team because our gm couldnt do **** for 2 years

[azwfan]

Maybe you weren't paying attention when the Warriors did the S&T for DLo but that would hard-cap the team and make it impossible to round out the roster. That was ok for the gap year after losing KD and Klay to miss the season but they can't go through that again and expect to compete in the near future.

You're right that the Warriors don't want to hard-cap themselves, but to do a S&T you have to be under the Apron to start with, which I can't see the Warriors being in the foreseeable future. So it's a non-starter to begin with.

Curry has wasted 2 years of prime training rookies. Thats not a top 10 all time players responsibility. We need to make a final push or we may lose curry to another team because our gm couldnt do **** for 2 years

He wasted last year being injured (and Klay injury) + Covid.

Hard to blame the GM for Curry being injured.

[xdrta+]

Maybe you weren't paying attention when the Warriors did the S&T for DLo but that would hard-cap the team and make it impossible to round out the roster. That was ok for the gap year after losing KD and Klay to miss the season but they can't go through that again and expect to compete in the near future.

You're right that the Warriors don't want to hard-cap themselves, but to do a S&T you have to be under the Apron to start with, which I can't see the Warriors being in the foreseeable future. So it's a non-starter to begin with.

Curry has wasted 2 years of prime training rookies. Thats not a top 10 all time players responsibility. We need to make a final push or we may lose curry to another team because our gm couldnt do **** for 2 years

All I'm saying is that S&T isn't possible, by rule.

[Phase 3]

Just an idea. Who says no?

Warriors trade Wiggins, Wiseman, Paschall, and the Minny pick to the Pelicans for Brandon Ingram and Lonzo Ball.

[kingcong95]

Just an idea. Who says no?

Warriors trade Wiggins, Wiseman, Paschall, and the Minny pick to the Pelicans for Brandon Ingram and Lonzo Ball.

New Orleans probably. They're in playoffs or bust mode (or will be by next year) and extended Adams which will limit Wiseman's opportunity to develop. The dropoff from BI to Wiggins is a huge downgrade on offense since BI is already their best 3P shooter to begin with.

[whatisacenter]

Just an idea. Who says no?

Warriors trade Wiggins, Wiseman, Paschall, and the Minny pick to the Pelicans for Brandon Ingram and Lonzo Ball.

I don’t think BI can be traded until the offseason due to signing a recent extension.

[ahmetmekin]

How about these two trade ideas
Warriors receive: Wood, House, Gordon (his last year is not guaranteed)
Rockets receive: Wiggins, Wiseman

Hawks receive: Oubre, Wanamaker
Warriors receive: Gallinari (his last year is also not guaranteed)

[kingcong95]

How about these two trade ideas
Warriors receive: Wood, House, Gordon (his last year is not guaranteed)
Rockets receive: Wiggins, Wiseman

Hawks receive: Oubre, Wanamaker
Warriors receive: Gallinari (his last year is also not guaranteed)

Both of those trades downgrade us on defense without filling the hole of a backup ballhandler. Wood and Gordon are both injury prone while Wiggins is the ultimate ironman.
The Hawks trade is an easy hang up for me as well, unless the Hawks add a pick. They are having serious buyer's remorse on Gallo, but since he only has one more year followed by a partial guarantee, they might have to hold on to him until then.

[ahmetmekin]

How about these two trade ideas
Warriors receive: Wood, House, Gordon (his last year is not guaranteed)
Rockets receive: Wiggins, Wiseman

Hawks receive: Oubre, Wanamaker
Warriors receive: Gallinari (his last year is also not guaranteed)

Both of those trades downgrade us on defense without filling the hole of a backup ballhandler. Wood and Gordon are both injury prone while Wiggins is the ultimate ironman.
The Hawks trade is an easy hang up for me as well, unless the Hawks add a pick. They are having serious buyer's remorse on Gallo, but since he only has one more year followed by a partial guarantee, they might have to hold on to him until then.

They also upgrade us on offense in particular shootin, rebounding, also number of legit nba rotation players without adding salary.
And Curry-Klay-Gallinari-Green-Wood is a fantastic lineup, much better than anything what we have right now.
For Gallo trade Hawks may have to add a second round pick.

We have Looney, Paschall, Nico, Poole and possibly our 2021 frp to upgrade backup pg role.

[wco81]

Those are two separate trades right? Not a 3-way trade?

[ahmetmekin]

Those are two separate trades right? Not a 3-way trade?

Yes.

[and1GS]

Ya gutting our team for 30 games of Gallo and Christian Wood is probably the answer here.

[ahmetmekin]

Ya gutting our team for 30 games of Gallo and Christian Wood is probably the answer here.

Gallinari plays much more than 30 games in average, fantastic shooter and in the suggested trade we do not give up any asset.
Very good fit for the second unit.

For the other trade I probably prefer Gordon over Wiggins in a playoff series and Gordon has a better contract and can still be traded next season for a better fit.

Wood has been a fringe all-star level player in the last 1-1.5 years and injury is the main concern. Obviously this is why we do not have to give up a lot assets to get him. Wiseman is completely irrelevant in the next 3 years.
So we have to move him for a better player, either for a guy like Wood or a better player to contend next season.

I don't see how trading Oubre, Wanamaker, Wiseman is considered gutting our team if you do not come from a parallel universe.

[wco81]

Wood is making just over $13 million this year.

He's due $13.7 and 14.3 million the next two seasons.

He's only played 17 games this year, was averaging 22/10.2 and 1.5 blocks on 55.8/42.1/68.8 shooting, 4.5 3PA per game.

Previous season he played 62 games, shot 56.7/38.6 on 2.3 3PA.

His career average is 55/38.4 but only 2 3PA a game.

So his 3 point shooting may not be for real but he seems to finish well in the paint, with his Euro step skills with the ball.

His contract is super attractive if he can maintain that efficiency.

I don't know if Houston trades that or would demand huge trade assets to give that contract away. Or maybe they will want to attach Gordon's contract to trade Wood away if they go full rebuild.

[and1GS]

Ya gutting our team for 30 games of Gallo and Christian Wood is probably the answer here.

Gallinari plays much more than 30 games in average, fantastic shooter and in the suggested trade we do not give up any asset.
Very good fit for the second unit.

For the other trade I probably prefer Gordon over Wiggins in a playoff series and Gordon has a better contract and can still be traded next season for a better fit.

Wood has been a fringe all-star level player in the last 1-1.5 years and injury is the main concern. Obviously this is why we do not have to give up a lot assets to get him. Wiseman is completely irrelevant in the next 3 years.
So we have to move him for a better player, either for a guy like Wood or a better player to contend next season.

I don't see how trading Oubre, Wanamaker, Wiseman is considered gutting our team if you do not come from a parallel universe.

Taking out last season and this (COVID makes apples-to-apples comparisons funky) here are his games played:

68
21
63
53
59
71
43
62
81
28

Argue however you want, but you have to plan on not having him for at least a third of the season. That's a nice finishing piece on a serious contender not a core player for a finals hopeful.

[ILOVEIT]

What value do you guys have Zach Lavine at?
Oubre, Wannamaker, Wolves pick?

[cdubbz]

What value do you guys have Zach Lavine at?
Oubre, Wannamaker, Wolves pick?

TimberWarriors

Trading for former Timberwolve with the Timberwolves pick. Lavigne would help for a Championship push next season with Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Green, Wiseman, Lavine for sure.

Just not sold on it. Need to sit on it. I want to watch the Beal situation throughout this season as well as Ben Simmons.