seriously, what’s the point of competing this year, pls explain. If we somehow past first round, we r gonna get pooped on by Celtics, bucks, nets, heat, or sixers. Then if we somehow manage to escape 2nd round somehow, well superteam nets is waiting for us licking their chops. IF we somehow manage to upset superteam nets, well lebronto or kawhy did he leave us, is waiting to sweep us in the finals. Lots of IFS
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Todd would be amazing, but looks like he is gonna go up to lottery. Man... why can’t raptors just start losing more, give this season up man 
seriously, what’s the point of competing this year, pls explain. If we somehow past first round, we r gonna get pooped on by Celtics, bucks, nets, heat, or sixers. Then if we somehow manage to escape 2nd round somehow, well superteam nets is waiting for us licking their chops. IF we somehow manage to upset superteam nets, well lebronto or kawhy did he leave us, is waiting to sweep us in the finals. Lots of IFS
seriously, what’s the point of competing this year, pls explain. If we somehow past first round, we r gonna get pooped on by Celtics, bucks, nets, heat, or sixers. Then if we somehow manage to escape 2nd round somehow, well superteam nets is waiting for us licking their chops. IF we somehow manage to upset superteam nets, well lebronto or kawhy did he leave us, is waiting to sweep us in the finals. Lots of IFS
114-110... "Curry lets it fly...CANADA THE NBA TITLE IS YOURS."
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ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:Todd would be amazing, but looks like he is gonna go up to lottery. Man... why can’t raptors just start losing more, give this season up man
seriously, what’s the point of competing this year, pls explain. If we somehow past first round, we r gonna get pooped on by Celtics, bucks, nets, heat, or sixers. Then if we somehow manage to escape 2nd round somehow, well superteam nets is waiting for us licking their chops. IF we somehow manage to upset superteam nets, well lebronto or kawhy did he leave us, is waiting to sweep us in the finals. Lots of IFS
2021/2022?
PG FVV - Flynn - Harris
SG Powell - TD - Thomas
SF OG - Todd - Bembry
PF Siakam - Todd - Yuta
C Boucher? - 1st pick (from Lowry trade)

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We can't have Boucher as the starting Centre full-time. If only we could grab another pick or two to get some young guns to develop on the 905, but I won't get my hopes up because I could be wrong, but I don't recall us ever making a draft night deal to get another pick.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:We can't have Boucher as the starting Centre full-time. If only we could grab another pick or two to get some young guns to develop on the 905, but I won't get my hopes up because I could be wrong, but I don't recall us ever making a draft night deal to get another pick.
By the time we develop a C (5 years), he would be about to replace Boucher (32?), so drafting a PF/C would be needed regardless.
As for getting another pick, it wouldn't be easy. We basically don't have much asset.
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:We can't have Boucher as the starting Centre full-time. If only we could grab another pick or two to get some young guns to develop on the 905, but I won't get my hopes up because I could be wrong, but I don't recall us ever making a draft night deal to get another pick.
The way Massai drafts and develops and I don't get why he doesnt more aggressively hunt throw away picks. Teams trade and sell second rounders virtually for nothing.
Not too many true centers in this draft. The only ones interesting to me right now are Hukporti and Queta. Huff too if you consider him a 5.
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Mark_83 wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:We can't have Boucher as the starting Centre full-time. If only we could grab another pick or two to get some young guns to develop on the 905, but I won't get my hopes up because I could be wrong, but I don't recall us ever making a draft night deal to get another pick.
The way Massai drafts and develops and I don't get why he doesnt more aggressively hunt throw away picks. Teams trade and sell second rounders virtually for nothing.
Not too many true centers in this draft. The only ones interesting to me right now are Hukporti and Queta. Huff too if you consider him a 5.
I think we will look for a switchable 5, which is more an undersize in PF/C being big and lengthy.
I don't think our setup would work with a true C, where we complained JV and Gasol for the PnR coverage.
Someone above 6'9 with at least 7'4 wingspan would be the minimum. Too bad, I wish we can take Isaiah Stewart, but he was drafted by Detroit at 16th last year.
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Indeed wrote:Mark_83 wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:We can't have Boucher as the starting Centre full-time. If only we could grab another pick or two to get some young guns to develop on the 905, but I won't get my hopes up because I could be wrong, but I don't recall us ever making a draft night deal to get another pick.
The way Massai drafts and develops and I don't get why he doesnt more aggressively hunt throw away picks. Teams trade and sell second rounders virtually for nothing.
Not too many true centers in this draft. The only ones interesting to me right now are Hukporti and Queta. Huff too if you consider him a 5.
I think we will look for a switchable 5, which is more an undersize in PF/C being big and lengthy.
I don't think our setup would work with a true C, where we complained JV and Gasol for the PnR coverage.
Someone above 6'9 with at least 7'4 wingspan would be the minimum. Too bad, I wish we can take Isaiah Stewart, but he was drafted by Detroit at 16th last year.
Something like a Bam Adebayo on defense (switch, rebound, block) with one carrying offensive skill (handle, passing, shooting). I'll take a switchable big who can shoot the three if there is one. We could always put OG there, though he's only 6'6 without shoes.
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Indeed wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:We can't have Boucher as the starting Centre full-time. If only we could grab another pick or two to get some young guns to develop on the 905, but I won't get my hopes up because I could be wrong, but I don't recall us ever making a draft night deal to get another pick.
By the time we develop a C (5 years), he would be about to replace Boucher (32?), so drafting a PF/C would be needed regardless.
As for getting another pick, it wouldn't be easy. We basically don't have much asset.
Lowry would get a 2021 and 2023 1st pick. Also any transitional big in the meantime.

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Mark_83 wrote:Indeed wrote:Mark_83 wrote:The way Massai drafts and develops and I don't get why he doesnt more aggressively hunt throw away picks. Teams trade and sell second rounders virtually for nothing.
Not too many true centers in this draft. The only ones interesting to me right now are Hukporti and Queta. Huff too if you consider him a 5.
I think we will look for a switchable 5, which is more an undersize in PF/C being big and lengthy.
I don't think our setup would work with a true C, where we complained JV and Gasol for the PnR coverage.
Someone above 6'9 with at least 7'4 wingspan would be the minimum. Too bad, I wish we can take Isaiah Stewart, but he was drafted by Detroit at 16th last year.
Something like a Bam Adebayo on defense (switch, rebound, block) with one carrying offensive skill (handle, passing, shooting). I'll take a switchable big who can shoot the three if there is one. We could always put OG there, though he's only 6'6 without shoes.
OG is 6'8 with 7'2 wingspan, but his mentality is not the banger type, and he falls short on his wingspan (and perhaps height) to be a shot blocker / rim protector. Boucher is actually the better fit at C without the weight, as he is 6'10 with 7'4, where you can see his impact on shot blocking, and his standing reach for rebounding, where OG will not be a solution at C.
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Psubs wrote:Indeed wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:We can't have Boucher as the starting Centre full-time. If only we could grab another pick or two to get some young guns to develop on the 905, but I won't get my hopes up because I could be wrong, but I don't recall us ever making a draft night deal to get another pick.
By the time we develop a C (5 years), he would be about to replace Boucher (32?), so drafting a PF/C would be needed regardless.
As for getting another pick, it wouldn't be easy. We basically don't have much asset.
Lowry would get a 2021 and 2023 1st pick. Also any transitional big in the meantime.
We wish 2023 1st, this is what we want, but I doubt teams even want to give us a 1st to begin with.
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Indeed wrote:Psubs wrote:Indeed wrote:
By the time we develop a C (5 years), he would be about to replace Boucher (32?), so drafting a PF/C would be needed regardless.
As for getting another pick, it wouldn't be easy. We basically don't have much asset.
Lowry would get a 2021 and 2023 1st pick. Also any transitional big in the meantime.
We wish 2023 1st, this is what we want, but I doubt teams even want to give us a 1st to begin with.
Trading within the division let alone the conference gets a premium.

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720 wrote:905 playing the ignite today.
On TSN4 at 3:45. Someone start a game thread!

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Psubs wrote:Dalek wrote:The near-lottery guys I like are defensive players that could fit well into Toronto's switching schemes. I used to have my all-defense team as:
1. Usman Garuba, Real Madrid
2. Davion Mitchell, Baylor
3. Scottie Lewis, Florida
I still have Garuba at the top because he does stuff you cannot teach with his lateral quicks, and instincts on positioning for a fairly big guy at 6'8":Spoiler:
Bumping Mitchell out, I now have Myles "Deuce" McBride. I have been steadily watching West Virginia games and he is a stand-out POA defender. He also offers more scoring and playmaking than Mitchell, so I think having a two-way threat like McBride is first round worthy. Really reminds me of Deandre Bembry with a jumpshot and clutch genes. The guy is strong but can get to his spots on court.Spoiler:
Bumping Scottie Lewis out is Kai Jones. There is just too much fluidity in his movement and good size to ignore. Reminds me a lot of Jalen Smith from last year who was drafted in the lottery but I might like Jones more because he can get up despite only having a 7'1" wingspan.Spoiler:
New my top three defenders (post-lottery) to draft in this class are:
1. Usman Garuba, Real Madrid
2. Deuce McBride, West Virginia
3. Kai Jones, Texas
Warming up to Garuba. McBride doesn't look athletic enough to be better than Delon. Cooling on Kai Jones.
What about Franz Wagner? He seems like a 6'9 McCaw that can shoot.
I'm liking Keon Johnson more than I did before. Imagine they say Keontae Johnson instead? I guess that's why they say from the University of so and so.
Wouldn't mind McBride, he looks like a smaller Butler, who can be a 6th man, imo.
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Well that didn't help Todd. He needs 2-3 years with the 905 to crack the Raptor bench mob.
Green looks like he should be taken ahead of Kuminga and Suggs.
Green looks like he should be taken ahead of Kuminga and Suggs.

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In no particular order.
Green
Cade
Mobley
Kuminga
Suggs
Green
Cade
Mobley
Kuminga
Suggs
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I’m most intrigued by Green and Kuminga. I wonder how Green will look in the NBA, he’s got elite athleticism and promising skill but doesn’t have a freakish physique.
Cade looks like he will have a high floor but doesn’t look like he’s as fast/fluent as the other two. Not sure how that will translate in the NBA.
Doesn’t matter though we aren’t drafting anywhere near them
Cade looks like he will have a high floor but doesn’t look like he’s as fast/fluent as the other two. Not sure how that will translate in the NBA.
Doesn’t matter though we aren’t drafting anywhere near them
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All anyone’s talked about is how great this draft is at the top but I just don’t see it. Cade is a maybe combo PG who turns the ball over way too much. Suggs is like the third best player on his team. Evan Mobley is interesting but he’s a string bean who so far can’t really shoot. Green and Kuminga are getting their butts kicked in the g league. Their team competes when they’re not on the floor. What am I missing? It’s a good thing we didn’t tank for this.
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VanWest82 wrote:All anyone’s talked about is how great this draft is at the top but I just don’t see it. Cade is a maybe combo PG who turns the ball over way too much. Suggs is like the third best player on his team. Evan Mobley is interesting but he’s a string bean who so far can’t really shoot. Green and Kuminga are getting their butts kicked in the g league. Their team competes when they’re not on the floor. What am I missing? It’s a good thing we didn’t tank for this.
None of the top 5 are likely to be as good as Chet Holmgren (draft next year) but the fact that there are 5 players possibly identified as really good makes it less of a crap shoot. Say all of them are on par with Lamelo and Haliburton but you know that they are grouped. Also the rest of the top 10 are on par with Edwards, Wiseman and Vassell.
Crazy, it seems that NBADraft.net has dropped Jalen Johnson all the way down to #23 for quitting on Duke! No way Greg Brown should be taken ahead of Johnson.
https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/
People would still draft Jalen Johnson (6'9) over Isaiah Todd (if legit 6'10) right?

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RapsFan008 wrote:I’m most intrigued by Green and Kuminga. I wonder how Green will look in the NBA, he’s got elite athleticism and promising skill but doesn’t have a freakish physique.
Cade looks like he will have a high floor but doesn’t look like he’s as fast/fluent as the other two. Not sure how that will translate in the NBA.
Doesn’t matter though we aren’t drafting anywhere near them
It seems like Cade has freedom to run P&R and do whatever he wants and that has him forcing things. I was shocked how many dumb passes he makes. I think giving him more structure. Right now he seems like an athletic Boris Diaw with better handles and better shooting.
Let's hope that Barnes, Bouknight, Keon Johnson, Ziaire Williams, Kispert, Cooper and Moody all get taken ahead of Jalen Johnson.

Who else could get taken ahead of Jalen Johnson? Sengun, Garuba, Springer, Wagner?
FYI, Tankathon finally has Petrusev into the 1st round at #27. http://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft
Does he remind of JV?












