Trade Thread (EPISODE VI: Can't we just put EVERYTHING in the TE?)

and1GS · Post #1081 » by **and1GS** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:07 am

Ben Simmons would be phenomenal, but there's no way that happens.

TinoDubs · Post #1082 » by **TinoDubs** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 7:34 am

ahmetmekin wrote:How about these two trade ideas
Warriors receive: Wood, House, Gordon (his last year is not guaranteed)
Rockets receive: Wiggins, Wiseman

Hawks receive: Oubre, Wanamaker
Warriors receive: Gallinari (his last year is also not guaranteed)

LOL...Houston will have a **** team.

Mylie10 · Post #1083 » by **Mylie10** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 4:23 pm

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/261764/Warriors-Interested-In-Trading-For-Victor-Oladipo

Discuss...I’m not a huge fan of his

donkeylips · Post #1084 » by **donkeylips** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 4:49 pm

as long as warriors dont trade wiseman or the minny first for him, im fine with it. but besides those two what do warriors have that the rockets would want? myers know how heavily coveted the minny pick is, and he has to know the oladipo is linked to the heat in this upcoming offseason, so i dont see him trading the minny pick. if they were to offer a trade for oladipo it will probably be oubre, poole, salary filler, warriors protected 2022 1st or 2 seconds, which i can see other teams beating.

whatisacenter · Post #1085 » by **whatisacenter** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 4:56 pm

Mylie10 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/261764/Warriors-Interested-In-Trading-For-Victor-Oladipo

Discuss...I’m not a huge fan of his

beyond his health issues is there another reason you're not a fan? There is no mention of what would be traded for him but at his $21mil. salary it would have to be a package around Oubre or Wiggins most likely. Not sure what Houston is looking for in return as Dipo is an UFA next season and I thought the owner was looking to save $$$.

Mylie10 · Post #1086 » by **Mylie10** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 5:02 pm

Health and the money required......and his guitar playing needs work

ahmetmekin · Post #1087 » by **ahmetmekin** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 5:02 pm

His issues are health, scoring efficiency (his efficiency is **** terrible). Very good defender and he can playmake for the second unit. But I don't see the point of getting him if the plan is not to extend his contract.

CS707 · Post #1088 » by **CS707** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 5:56 pm

I think it would have to be an all in move that included both the Minnesota pick as well as Houston taking Wiggins contract. Zero chance we trade for him just to let him walk after the season and I'm guessing there's zero chance we resign him with Wiggins on the books. I wonder if we think we can pay Olidipo and Oubre a low enough combined amount to offset Wiggins, a top pick, and filler? Wiggins and that pick are around $38-39 million combined assuming it converts this year. Possibly more if it's after next season.

SAKURABA216 · Post #1089 » by **SAKURABA216** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:22 pm

Oladipo is good, but it seems like he has his heart set on playing in Miami after he hits free agency this summer and it looks like he is also drawing interest from the Knicks. If we gave up assets for him we would need to max him out this summer to make it worth it and he is looking to make $195 mil over 5 years, so about $39 mil a year.

Let's say we trade Wiggins + Minnesota pick + future first for Oladipo and then let Oubre walk this off-season. We would be giving up 2 wing players with length and athleticism for Oladipo and will have to pray that he stays healthy and re-signs with us this off-season. That is a lot to give up, but Oladipo might be an easier trade piece than Wiggins if it doesn't work out.

and1GS · Post #1090 » by **and1GS** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:29 pm

SAKURABA216 wrote:Oladipo is good, but it seems like he has his heart set on playing in Miami after he hits free agency this summer and it looks like he is also drawing interest from the Knicks. If we gave up assets for him we would need to max him out this summer to make it worth it and he is looking to make $195 mil over 5 years, so about $39 mil a year.

Let's say we trade Wiggins + Minnesota pick + future first for Oladipo and then let Oubre walk this off-season. We would be giving up 2 wing players with length and athleticism for Oladipo and will have to pray that he stays healthy and re-signs with us this off-season. That is a lot to give up, but Oladipo might be an easier trade piece than Wiggins if it doesn't work out.

I may be doing the math wrong, but I don't think it's possible for him to go to Miami due to cap holds for Duncan/Nunn. If they renounce both (they won't) they could make it work. OR if they decline team options on Meyers and Iguodala AND sign Oladipo before Nunn/Duncan AND creep close to lux tax they might be able to make it work.

I think Oladipo would be great for us. Rich man's Bazemore. I have 0 clue what we would trade as we can't trade this year's pick until protection is removed. Maybe Oubre? A handful of seconds? Not sure.

KevinMcreynolds · Post #1091 » by **KevinMcreynolds** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:32 pm

Mylie10 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/261764/Warriors-Interested-In-Trading-For-Victor-Oladipo

Discuss...I’m not a huge fan of his

can we have Christian Wood instead? And for way less assets

kingcong95 · Post #1092 » by **kingcong95** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:33 pm

SAKURABA216 wrote:Oladipo is good, but it seems like he has his heart set on playing in Miami after he hits free agency this summer and it looks like he is also drawing interest from the Knicks. If we gave up assets for him we would need to max him out this summer to make it worth it and he is looking to make $195 mil over 5 years, so about $39 mil a year.

Let's say we trade Wiggins + Minnesota pick + future first for Oladipo and then let Oubre walk this off-season. We would be giving up 2 wing players with length and athleticism for Oladipo and will have to pray that he stays healthy and re-signs with us this off-season. That is a lot to give up, but Oladipo might be an easier trade piece than Wiggins if it doesn't work out.

I'm not sure about that part. Wiggins only has 2 more years after this. If we give up any pick higher than 20 for Oladipo, he has leverage to demand anything he wants from us, so nearly as much as what Wiggins makes. And when I think of it "not working out" with Oladipo, I think about an accumulation of injuries that reduce him to a shell of what he once was, and we'll be stuck with that for the rest of Steph's prime. And I haven't even mentioned how Steph, Klay, and Oladipo could all play at the same time; who guards the 3?

For this reason I am hesitant to give up anything that values Oladipo as more than an expiring whom we can sign and trade in the offseason, especially since even with him we still won't be good enough to have home court in the first round this year.

and1GS · Post #1093 » by **and1GS** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:33 pm

gst8 wrote:I think it would have to be an all in move that included both the Minnesota pick as well as Houston taking Wiggins contract. Zero chance we trade for him just to let him walk after the season and I'm guessing there's zero chance we resign him with Wiggins on the books. I wonder if we think we can pay Olidipo and Oubre a low enough combined amount to offset Wiggins, a top pick, and filler? Wiggins and that pick are around $38-39 million combined assuming it converts this year. Possibly more if it's after next season.

I'm not sure it needs to be all in. Oladipo is almost certainly gone by EOY. So they'll get nothing or some meh return. Makes me wonder why they traded LaVert, who had 2 years on his deal.

ILOVEIT · Post #1094 » by **ILOVEIT** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:35 pm

and1GS wrote:
SAKURABA216 wrote:Oladipo is good, but it seems like he has his heart set on playing in Miami after he hits free agency this summer and it looks like he is also drawing interest from the Knicks. If we gave up assets for him we would need to max him out this summer to make it worth it and he is looking to make $195 mil over 5 years, so about $39 mil a year.

Let's say we trade Wiggins + Minnesota pick + future first for Oladipo and then let Oubre walk this off-season. We would be giving up 2 wing players with length and athleticism for Oladipo and will have to pray that he stays healthy and re-signs with us this off-season. That is a lot to give up, but Oladipo might be an easier trade piece than Wiggins if it doesn't work out.

I may be doing the math wrong, but I don't think it's possible for him to go to Miami due to cap holds for Duncan/Nunn. If they renounce both (they won't) they could make it work. OR if they decline team options on Meyers and Iguodala AND sign Oladipo before Nunn/Duncan AND creep close to lux tax they might be able to make it work.

I think Oladipo would be great for us. Rich man's Bazemore. I have 0 clue what we would trade as we can't trade this year's pick until protection is removed. Maybe Oubre? A handful of seconds? Not sure.

Would love him VO on this team. Smart player....could definitely run the point at times....could become a super sub after a couple of years.

VO, Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Green....sweet small ball lineup.

Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Green, Wiseman....big lineup.

SAKURABA216 · Post #1095 » by **SAKURABA216** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:37 pm

and1GS wrote:
gst8 wrote:I think it would have to be an all in move that included both the Minnesota pick as well as Houston taking Wiggins contract. Zero chance we trade for him just to let him walk after the season and I'm guessing there's zero chance we resign him with Wiggins on the books. I wonder if we think we can pay Olidipo and Oubre a low enough combined amount to offset Wiggins, a top pick, and filler? Wiggins and that pick are around $38-39 million combined assuming it converts this year. Possibly more if it's after next season.

I'm not sure it needs to be all in. Oladipo is almost certainly gone by EOY. So they'll get nothing or some meh return. Makes me wonder why they traded LaVert, who had 2 years on his deal.

I think the owner of the Rockets wanted a young player that could sell jerseys and Lavert just didn't have the marketability that Oladipo has, at least for now anyways. They were probably shocked themselves when he turned down the 2 year extension.

SAKURABA216 · Post #1096 » by **SAKURABA216** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:44 pm

kingcong95 wrote:
SAKURABA216 wrote:Oladipo is good, but it seems like he has his heart set on playing in Miami after he hits free agency this summer and it looks like he is also drawing interest from the Knicks. If we gave up assets for him we would need to max him out this summer to make it worth it and he is looking to make $195 mil over 5 years, so about $39 mil a year.

Let's say we trade Wiggins + Minnesota pick + future first for Oladipo and then let Oubre walk this off-season. We would be giving up 2 wing players with length and athleticism for Oladipo and will have to pray that he stays healthy and re-signs with us this off-season. That is a lot to give up, but Oladipo might be an easier trade piece than Wiggins if it doesn't work out.

I'm not sure about that part. Wiggins only has 2 more years after this. If we give up any pick higher than 20 for Oladipo, he has leverage to demand anything he wants from us, so nearly as much as what Wiggins makes. And when I think of it "not working out" with Oladipo, I think about an accumulation of injuries that reduce him to a shell of what he once was, and we'll be stuck with that for the rest of Steph's prime. And I haven't even mentioned how Steph, Klay, and Oladipo could all play at the same time; who guards the 3?

For this reason I am hesitant to give up anything that values Oladipo as more than an expiring whom we can sign and trade in the offseason, especially since even with him we still won't be good enough to have home court in the first round this year.

Yeah I agree with you. That is just an insane amount of money to throw at a guy that isn't a superstar and isn't committed to playing for your team. The Pistons took a chance on Blake and he didn't want to be there, but no team wanted to trade for him. Luckily he was willing to be bought out, but Oladipo seems like the type that would be low-key disgruntled for years if he signs the max with us and then later wanted to be traded but no team would be willing to take on his salary.

TB · Post #1097 » by TB » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:45 pm

Oladipo scares me based on the way his game has trended since the injuries.

Definitely not giving up picks, so the only trade would be Oubre and some young players Houston may want to develop like Paschall, Poole, etc.... And honestly I may just prefer to keep Oubre in that situation.

and1GS · Post #1098 » by **and1GS** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:51 pm

If he wasn't happy playing in Indiana, where he is beloved since college, with a reduced role there should be considerable risk factored into the idea of inking him to a 20m per, multi-year deal.

whatisacenter · Post #1099 » by **whatisacenter** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:56 pm

I can't think of who besides Wannamaker that I would want to send to Houston. That team is going nowhere and I would feel bad sending a player I like to that organization.

wco81 · Post #1100 » by **wco81** » Mon Mar 8, 2021 7:07 pm

Oladipo was all-star only once or twice before injury right?

And he was #3 pick in his draft class because of insane bounce despite what 6-2 or 6-3 length?

He found his shot in Indy but he's shooting 31% from 3 in Houston and 38.7% overall.

His best year he shot 47.7/37.1 but that was 4 years ago.

Without his athleticism, he can't get to the hole as effectively so he's not getting as much space in the perimeter.

Why are the Warriors looking to get a small 2 who's looking to get maxed? Maybe they have concerns about Klay?

But no way team can afford what he's going to want without shedding like $35 million in salary right? He rejected $20-25 million per probably because he or his agent believes he can get over $30 million per.