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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1101 » by LateNight » Mon Mar 8, 2021 5:53 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
Read on Twitter
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I love the first part of this and the second part scares me because I don’t want Wiggins
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1102 » by sco » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:14 pm

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Jcool0 wrote:
Read on Twitter
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I love the first part of this and the second part scares me because I don’t want Wiggins

I don't hate Wiggins. If you look at his stats, he's definitely trending positive in recent years. I picked him up for my fantasy team because he's averaging 1.1 blocks per game. He's shooting 35.1% from 3 on 5 attempts. His FG % is trending up to at 46% and his TO's per game are below 2. He's not Kawhi, but I like guys who show continuous improvement trends and are still young. His deal has only 2 more years on it at $31M, better than some, worse than others. Part of me prefers Wiggins to trading for Dipo or Wall in terms of risk/reward.

The one thing I don't know is whether he has work ethic or other bad habits. If no problems, I'd do it.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1103 » by sco » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:16 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
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The positive in that tweet is that it looks like we will be buyers, not sellers, because I'm sure Thad would fetch a nice asset.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1104 » by Jcool0 » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:24 pm

sco wrote:I don't hate Wiggins. If you look at his stats, he's definitely trending positive in recent years. I picked him up for my fantasy team because he's averaging 1.1 blocks per game. He's shooting 35.1% from 3 on 5 attempts. His FG % is trending up to at 46% and his TO's per game are below 2. He's not Kawhi, but I like guys who show continuous improvement trends and are still young. His deal has only 2 more years on it at $31M, better than some, worse than others. Part of me prefers Wiggins to trading for Dipo or Wall in terms of risk/reward.

The one thing I don't know is whether he has work ethic or other bad habits. If no problems, I'd do it.



He is pretty much the same player he has always been except he wont give you the occasional 30 point game like he used to.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1105 » by gobullschi » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:36 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
sco wrote:I don't hate Wiggins. If you look at his stats, he's definitely trending positive in recent years. I picked him up for my fantasy team because he's averaging 1.1 blocks per game. He's shooting 35.1% from 3 on 5 attempts. His FG % is trending up to at 46% and his TO's per game are below 2. He's not Kawhi, but I like guys who show continuous improvement trends and are still young. His deal has only 2 more years on it at $31M, better than some, worse than others. Part of me prefers Wiggins to trading for Dipo or Wall in terms of risk/reward.

The one thing I don't know is whether he has work ethic or other bad habits. If no problems, I'd do it.



He is pretty much the same player he has always been except he wont give you the occasional 30 point game like he used to.


I’m not a fan of a OPJ/Wiggins swap unless the Bulls are taking on another asset.

Wiggins contract does expire at the same time as Jokic, so maybe AK is trying to position himself for a reunion?
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Post#1106 » by StunnerKO » Mon Mar 8, 2021 6:56 pm

Wolves pick slated to go 1 and only protected 1-3
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Post#1107 » by Chi town » Mon Mar 8, 2021 7:12 pm

Dipo makes the most sense as a 2nd star if you believe is your de facto PG and lead guard.
- You also have to believe in Dipo's health... I think he has been out to rest and keep himself healthy for the deadline
- Can only cost a 2nd round pick/Hutch/Val type of deal... don't see HOU getting a 1st for him since he has said he wants MIA
- Have to believe that Dipo could resign if he played well and fit the team

My prediction is AK stays put and sees what these guys can do when healthy with more BillyD coaching. I think his big move will be at the draft.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1108 » by gobullschi » Mon Mar 8, 2021 7:14 pm

OPJ + Markkanen + 2021 1st for Wiggins & 2021 1st (MIN)

Warriors free up cap space to retain Oubre and secure their front court of the future (Oubre/Markkanen/Wiseman).

Bulls get a chance at adding a top 5 pick.

Obviously, Bulls only do this if they don’t want to pay Markkanen and believe PAW’s future is at power forward.

Coby White / Tomas Satoransky
Zach LaVine / Garrett Temple
Andrew Wiggins / Denzel Valentine
Patrick Williams / Thaddeus Young
Wendell Carter Jr. / Daniel Gafford
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1109 » by Andi Obst » Mon Mar 8, 2021 7:14 pm

StunnerKO wrote:Wolves pick slated to go 1 and only protected 1-3


Even if the Wolves finish with the worst record there’s a ~ 60% chance they lose the pick. Plus even if they keep it in 2021, you get their 2022 pick unprotected.

(Not that it matters, because they won’t add it just to dump Wiggins)
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Post#1110 » by leo921 » Mon Mar 8, 2021 7:39 pm

Any deal with Warriors I want Wiseman coming back to us, have no problem throwing Carter into the deal so they have a Center
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1111 » by FriedRise » Mon Mar 8, 2021 7:40 pm

From GSW's point of view, they have both Oubre and Wiggins but they probably only need one of them with Klay coming back next season. I don't know if they're thinking of keeping either of those players, but Oubre is an expiring and if they trade Wiggins for an expiring like Otto, they'll have more flexibility this offseason.

I don't know if Wiggins makes sense for us though because PW is our guy to groom and obviously still on a rookie scale contract. Either Wiggins or Oubre would directly eat into PW's minutes, and I'm not sure if they'd even be that much of an upgrade. This is starting to look like a one-sided trade. GSW would need to add more for us to eat Wiggin's contract, like that Minnesota 1st. We can add cheap fillers like Hutch, Valentine, or Arch, but I'm not sending them anything of substance like Lauri.
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Post#1112 » by dawhizz » Mon Mar 8, 2021 7:50 pm

leo921 wrote:Any deal with Warriors I want Wiseman coming back to us, have no problem throwing Carter into the deal so they have a Center


They aren’t trading Wiseman.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1113 » by gobullschi » Mon Mar 8, 2021 7:53 pm

FriedRise wrote:From GSW's point of view, they have both Oubre and Wiggins but they probably only need one of them with Klay coming back next season. I don't know if they're thinking of keeping either of those players, but Oubre is an expiring and if they trade Wiggins for an expiring like Otto, they'll have more flexibility this offseason.

I don't know if Wiggins makes sense for us though because PW is our guy to groom and obviously still on a rookie scale contract. Either Wiggins or Oubre would directly eat into PW's minutes, and I'm not sure if they'd even be that much of an upgrade. This is starting to look like a one-sided trade. GSW would need to add more for us to eat Wiggin's contract, like that Minnesota 1st. We can add cheap fillers like Hutch, Valentine, or Arch, but I'm not sending them anything of substance like Lauri.


So you want GS to trade a potential top 5 pick for cap relief? Good luck with that. Bulls would be lucky if Markkanen + 2021 1st is enough.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1114 » by FriedRise » Mon Mar 8, 2021 8:08 pm

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FriedRise wrote:From GSW's point of view, they have both Oubre and Wiggins but they probably only need one of them with Klay coming back next season. I don't know if they're thinking of keeping either of those players, but Oubre is an expiring and if they trade Wiggins for an expiring like Otto, they'll have more flexibility this offseason.

I don't know if Wiggins makes sense for us though because PW is our guy to groom and obviously still on a rookie scale contract. Either Wiggins or Oubre would directly eat into PW's minutes, and I'm not sure if they'd even be that much of an upgrade. This is starting to look like a one-sided trade. GSW would need to add more for us to eat Wiggin's contract, like that Minnesota 1st. We can add cheap fillers like Hutch, Valentine, or Arch, but I'm not sending them anything of substance like Lauri.


So you want GS to trade a potential top 5 pick for cap relief? Good luck with that. Bulls would be lucky if Markkanen + 2021 1st is enough.


I dunno, may not make sense for a lot of teams, but for GSW with Steph, Klay, and Draymond on the books for 106M next season, I wouldn't put it past them to try to use a pick to get some cap relief. I also doubt that they're looking to get younger since they might think they can try to push for it one more time. A guy like Otto on the cheap (if let's say, resigned) would help them more than a rookie.
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Post#1115 » by gobullschi » Mon Mar 8, 2021 8:11 pm

FriedRise wrote:
gobullschi wrote:
FriedRise wrote:From GSW's point of view, they have both Oubre and Wiggins but they probably only need one of them with Klay coming back next season. I don't know if they're thinking of keeping either of those players, but Oubre is an expiring and if they trade Wiggins for an expiring like Otto, they'll have more flexibility this offseason.

I don't know if Wiggins makes sense for us though because PW is our guy to groom and obviously still on a rookie scale contract. Either Wiggins or Oubre would directly eat into PW's minutes, and I'm not sure if they'd even be that much of an upgrade. This is starting to look like a one-sided trade. GSW would need to add more for us to eat Wiggin's contract, like that Minnesota 1st. We can add cheap fillers like Hutch, Valentine, or Arch, but I'm not sending them anything of substance like Lauri.


So you want GS to trade a potential top 5 pick for cap relief? Good luck with that. Bulls would be lucky if Markkanen + 2021 1st is enough.


I dunno, may not make sense for a lot of teams, but for GSW with Steph, Klay, and Draymond on the books for 106M next season, I wouldn't put it past them to try to use a pick to get some cap relief. I also doubt that they're looking to get younger since they might think they can try to push for it one more time. A guy like Otto on the cheap (if let's say, resigned) would help them more than a rookie.


Cmon man. You better than this.
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Post#1116 » by Jedzz » Tue Mar 9, 2021 2:27 am

RoseTheFuture22 wrote:I could see something like LaVine to PHI, Simmons to the Bulls, Lauri to a 3rd team(maybe HOU, SA, SAC) with other pieces going back to Philly and maybe a pick or 2 from us.


Don't do that. Send LaVine to Min instead. Tell me who or what you need for him. Only thing we can't do is give you Butler back.
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Post#1117 » by imagge » Tue Mar 9, 2021 2:44 am

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RoseTheFuture22 wrote:I could see something like LaVine to PHI, Simmons to the Bulls, Lauri to a 3rd team(maybe HOU, SA, SAC) with other pieces going back to Philly and maybe a pick or 2 from us.


Don't do that. Send LaVine to Min instead. Tell me who or what you need for him. Only thing we can't do is give you Butler back.


If Thad is off the table in trade discussions then Zach is untouchable for this year
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Post#1118 » by Jedzz » Tue Mar 9, 2021 3:33 am

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Jedzz wrote:
RoseTheFuture22 wrote:I could see something like LaVine to PHI, Simmons to the Bulls, Lauri to a 3rd team(maybe HOU, SA, SAC) with other pieces going back to Philly and maybe a pick or 2 from us.


Don't do that. Send LaVine to Min instead. Tell me who or what you need for him. Only thing we can't do is give you Butler back.


If Thad is off the table in trade discussions then Zach is untouchable for this year


Kat/Dlo/Hernangomez(or other) for LaVine/Lauri and future frps

Edwards/Rubio for LaVine

or make one that works for you
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1119 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Mar 9, 2021 4:39 am

sco wrote:
LateNight wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
Read on Twitter
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I love the first part of this and the second part scares me because I don’t want Wiggins

I don't hate Wiggins. If you look at his stats, he's definitely trending positive in recent years. I picked him up for my fantasy team because he's averaging 1.1 blocks per game. He's shooting 35.1% from 3 on 5 attempts. His FG % is trending up to at 46% and his TO's per game are below 2. He's not Kawhi, but I like guys who show continuous improvement trends and are still young. His deal has only 2 more years on it at $31M, better than some, worse than others. Part of me prefers Wiggins to trading for Dipo or Wall in terms of risk/reward.

The one thing I don't know is whether he has work ethic or other bad habits. If no problems, I'd do it.


We are not trading for Wiggins. Do you think Eversley and AK are fools? They are talking about acquiring Porter if the Bulls negotiate a buyout. Not taking their undesirables back for him.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1120 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Mar 9, 2021 4:41 am

Chi town wrote:Dipo makes the most sense as a 2nd star if you believe is your de facto PG and lead guard.
- You also have to believe in Dipo's health... I think he has been out to rest and keep himself healthy for the deadline
- Can only cost a 2nd round pick/Hutch/Val type of deal... don't see HOU getting a 1st for him since he has said he wants MIA
- Have to believe that Dipo could resign if he played well and fit the team

My prediction is AK stays put and sees what these guys can do when healthy with more BillyD coaching. I think his big move will be at the draft.


Dipo is not a star anymore. Post-prime Wade ring a bell? The worst thing we can do is spend money on a name that does match the current performance. Let him go to Miami.

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