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Post#201 » by Prokorov » Mon Mar 8, 2021 7:56 pm

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Sharcm1 wrote:Good luck to Nash to find good rotations when KD comes back. If griffin plays well it will be interesting to see how Nash uses him with everyone else.

Starting five is obvious with Irving, harden, Harris and Durant. I’m sure green will fill in at center when playing three point shooting centers for perimeter defense. And DJ will start at center when playing stronger type post centers (not many left). I expect harden to continue to stay on the floor with the bench players. And griffin to get a change at pf with Clax at center. I think that would be a good combo.


I got my six pack and shrimp basket ready for it. That coaching stuff have very good experience if compared to others.

This roster is complete imo. Its all on coaching now. I mean c'mon, some really upset about Blake being 7-9guy in rotation? Dude can ball and is fresh. Some of you guys will be pleasantly surprised soon.


Not having another shot blocker is a major, major concern for me.

our largest period of struggle this year is when we were getting gashed defensively to the point were 130 points wasnt enough to win games. common thread is those games is nash glued DJ to the bench or DJ stunk on D in those games and we had no other rim protecting option.

McGee ive beaten to death, but honestly id feel better even with just like pelle as the 17th man on a 2-way or series of 10 days or whatever, if DJ got hurt in the playoffs, we could be in a real tough spot depending on the matchup.
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Re: Shams: Blake Griffin signs with the Nets! (Vets Minimum Deal) 

Post#202 » by andrewww » Mon Mar 8, 2021 8:15 pm

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GTR11 wrote:
Sharcm1 wrote:Good luck to Nash to find good rotations when KD comes back. If griffin plays well it will be interesting to see how Nash uses him with everyone else.

Starting five is obvious with Irving, harden, Harris and Durant. I’m sure green will fill in at center when playing three point shooting centers for perimeter defense. And DJ will start at center when playing stronger type post centers (not many left). I expect harden to continue to stay on the floor with the bench players. And griffin to get a change at pf with Clax at center. I think that would be a good combo.


I got my six pack and shrimp basket ready for it. That coaching stuff have very good experience if compared to others.

This roster is complete imo. Its all on coaching now. I mean c'mon, some really upset about Blake being 7-9guy in rotation? Dude can ball and is fresh. Some of you guys will be pleasantly surprised soon.


Not having another shot blocker is a major, major concern for me.

our largest period of struggle this year is when we were getting gashed defensively to the point were 130 points wasnt enough to win games. common thread is those games is nash glued DJ to the bench or DJ stunk on D in those games and we had no other rim protecting option.

McGee ive beaten to death, but honestly id feel better even with just like pelle as the 17th man on a 2-way or series of 10 days or whatever, if DJ got hurt in the playoffs, we could be in a real tough spot depending on the matchup.


Claxton and KD would be the rim protectors.

Of the legitimate contenders, who would dominate inside offensively against the Nets? The only names I can think of are Embiid and maybe AD who isn't a true bruiser down load either. I don't think the Sixers have the horses to keep up offensively as a team.
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Post#203 » by Whiskey Slick » Mon Mar 8, 2021 8:30 pm

Sharcm1 wrote:Good luck to Nash to find good rotations when KD comes back. If griffin plays well it will be interesting to see how Nash uses him with everyone else.

IMO this is all about limiting the minutes of every player that matters, especially but not exclusively KD, and having the kind of depth that allows Nash to sit certain players for whole games (DNP's) without sacrificing the ability to win those games and still chase the #1 seed. The ultimate goal being to go into the post season with a team that's rested, healthy and the #1 seed.

That's why we added BG and that's why Sean Marks still isn't done in my view.

Like I said, I think he's trying to build a super team ... 1 thru 15.
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Post#204 » by GTR11 » Mon Mar 8, 2021 8:49 pm

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GTR11 wrote:
Sharcm1 wrote:Good luck to Nash to find good rotations when KD comes back. If griffin plays well it will be interesting to see how Nash uses him with everyone else.

Starting five is obvious with Irving, harden, Harris and Durant. I’m sure green will fill in at center when playing three point shooting centers for perimeter defense. And DJ will start at center when playing stronger type post centers (not many left). I expect harden to continue to stay on the floor with the bench players. And griffin to get a change at pf with Clax at center. I think that would be a good combo.


I got my six pack and shrimp basket ready for it. That coaching stuff have very good experience if compared to others.

This roster is complete imo. Its all on coaching now. I mean c'mon, some really upset about Blake being 7-9guy in rotation? Dude can ball and is fresh. Some of you guys will be pleasantly surprised soon.


Not having another shot blocker is a major, major concern for me.

our largest period of struggle this year is when we were getting gashed defensively to the point were 130 points wasnt enough to win games. common thread is those games is nash glued DJ to the bench or DJ stunk on D in those games and we had no other rim protecting option.

McGee ive beaten to death, but honestly id feel better even with just like pelle as the 17th man on a 2-way or series of 10 days or whatever, if DJ got hurt in the playoffs, we could be in a real tough spot depending on the matchup.


Prok who you trading Nicholas Claxton and Dinwiddie for than. You didn't specify that on previous post before. Who is exactly youd be happy with?
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Post#205 » by GTR11 » Mon Mar 8, 2021 8:55 pm

andrewww wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
I got my six pack and shrimp basket ready for it. That coaching stuff have very good experience if compared to others.

This roster is complete imo. Its all on coaching now. I mean c'mon, some really upset about Blake being 7-9guy in rotation? Dude can ball and is fresh. Some of you guys will be pleasantly surprised soon.


Not having another shot blocker is a major, major concern for me.

our largest period of struggle this year is when we were getting gashed defensively to the point were 130 points wasnt enough to win games. common thread is those games is nash glued DJ to the bench or DJ stunk on D in those games and we had no other rim protecting option.

McGee ive beaten to death, but honestly id feel better even with just like pelle as the 17th man on a 2-way or series of 10 days or whatever, if DJ got hurt in the playoffs, we could be in a real tough spot depending on the matchup.


Claxton and KD would be the rim protectors.

Of the legitimate contenders, who would dominate inside offensively against the Nets? The only names I can think of are Embiid and maybe AD who isn't a true bruiser down load either. I don't think the Sixers have the horses to keep up offensively as a team.


I see you not familiar how Prok is lol. Its his way or highway. He take lumps and admits them, just awfully be a lot of them.
We yet to find out how Nic and Blake will fit yet we jumping on conclusions here. Damn, we yet to find out how KD,Kyrie and Harden will run this thing. They played only 7 games together.
Something to keep in mind, we forced team to match up with us. We made likes of Trez, Hassan etc unplayable. Sac was forced to play Whiteside only because they had no one else.
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Re: Shams: Blake Griffin signs with the Nets! (Vets Minimum Deal) 

Post#206 » by Trader_Joe » Mon Mar 8, 2021 9:19 pm

Wow.. I am so relieved we did not offer him the DPE, MLE or have him multiple years.
I don't trust his health one bit... for the minimum? This is great.

We're not going to become a good defensive team by adding around the edges, so we might as well continue to build the greatest offense we can. Blake is high IQ, good passer, respected 3 point shooter and can play inside and out. Yes, he and Green are undersized, but Griffin the better rebounder and passer. Green can play more SF/PF and Blake more PF/C. We still have 2 open roster spots I believe and the ability to add a Drummond/McGee/Whoever for shot-blocking and upgrade the TLC spot off the bench.

I could see this kind of minute distribution.

Harden 34 / Shamet 14
Irving 34 / Brown 14
Harris 30 / Durant 9 / Brown 9
Durant 24 / Green 24
Jordan 20 / Griffin 16 / Claxton 12

DNP: T.Johnson, TLC, R.Perry
INJ: Dinwiddie
MLE, DPE
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Post#207 » by HardenGoat » Mon Mar 8, 2021 10:52 pm

Embiid is having a great season so far, if a center like Gobert can't stop him near the rim you have to double him before he get's there. I have my doubts he will be as dominant in the post season, it happens every year he starts running out of gas in a series and he can get targeted for foul trouble defensively. That's why I value a player like PJ Tucker so much, he has proven to be effective over several games against true bigs but also spreads the floor on offense. The guy is simply tough and durable.
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Post#208 » by TheNetsFan » Tue Mar 9, 2021 2:10 am

I think the Nets have 6 guys that will get consistent minutes regardless of the opponent: Harden, KD, Irving, Harris, Green for sure. Most likely Brown too. After that the amount of minutes for DJ, Blake, Claxton and others will be matchup based, especially in the postseason. DJ will continue to start, but will have a shorter leash.

Griffin also likely means more Green as a PF, especially if we start to strictly limit KD's minutes.
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Post#209 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 9, 2021 4:19 am

andrewww wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
I got my six pack and shrimp basket ready for it. That coaching stuff have very good experience if compared to others.

This roster is complete imo. Its all on coaching now. I mean c'mon, some really upset about Blake being 7-9guy in rotation? Dude can ball and is fresh. Some of you guys will be pleasantly surprised soon.


Not having another shot blocker is a major, major concern for me.

our largest period of struggle this year is when we were getting gashed defensively to the point were 130 points wasnt enough to win games. common thread is those games is nash glued DJ to the bench or DJ stunk on D in those games and we had no other rim protecting option.

McGee ive beaten to death, but honestly id feel better even with just like pelle as the 17th man on a 2-way or series of 10 days or whatever, if DJ got hurt in the playoffs, we could be in a real tough spot depending on the matchup.


Claxton and KD would be the rim protectors.

Of the legitimate contenders, who would dominate inside offensively against the Nets? The only names I can think of are Embiid and maybe AD who isn't a true bruiser down load either. I don't think the Sixers have the horses to keep up offensively as a team.


You dont need rim protectors to stop opposing bigs. no one is beating a good team by dumping it to the post to a center for offense. no... you need rim protectors to stop wings and smalls from getting to the rim and forcing them to back out or kick out. Claxton isnt doing that. neither is KD.
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Post#210 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 9, 2021 4:20 am

GTR11 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
I got my six pack and shrimp basket ready for it. That coaching stuff have very good experience if compared to others.

This roster is complete imo. Its all on coaching now. I mean c'mon, some really upset about Blake being 7-9guy in rotation? Dude can ball and is fresh. Some of you guys will be pleasantly surprised soon.


Not having another shot blocker is a major, major concern for me.

our largest period of struggle this year is when we were getting gashed defensively to the point were 130 points wasnt enough to win games. common thread is those games is nash glued DJ to the bench or DJ stunk on D in those games and we had no other rim protecting option.

McGee ive beaten to death, but honestly id feel better even with just like pelle as the 17th man on a 2-way or series of 10 days or whatever, if DJ got hurt in the playoffs, we could be in a real tough spot depending on the matchup.


Prok who you trading Nicholas Claxton and Dinwiddie for than. You didn't specify that on previous post before. Who is exactly youd be happy with?


im not sure who is available. but if you can trade dinwiddie/claxton for value and backfill them with ariza/tucker thats a move you have to make
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Re: Shams: Blake Griffin signs with the Nets! (Vets Minimum Deal) 

Post#211 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 9, 2021 4:22 am

Trader_Joe wrote:Wow.. I am so relieved we did not offer him the DPE, MLE or have him multiple years.
I don't trust his health one bit... for the minimum? This is great.

We're not going to become a good defensive team by adding around the edges, so we might as well continue to build the greatest offense we can. Blake is high IQ, good passer, respected 3 point shooter and can play inside and out. Yes, he and Green are undersized, but Griffin the better rebounder and passer. Green can play more SF/PF and Blake more PF/C. We still have 2 open roster spots I believe and the ability to add a Drummond/McGee/Whoever for shot-blocking and upgrade the TLC spot off the bench.

I could see this kind of minute distribution.

Harden 34 / Shamet 14
Irving 34 / Brown 14
Harris 30 / Durant 9 / Brown 9
Durant 24 / Green 24
Jordan 20 / Griffin 16 / Claxton 12

DNP: T.Johnson, TLC, R.Perry
INJ: Dinwiddie
MLE, DPE
3 Roster Spots


I'm not sitting TJ for griffin. there is no way that works for me
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Post#212 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 9, 2021 4:24 am

HardenGoat wrote:Embiid is having a great season so far, if a center like Gobert can't stop him near the rim you have to double him before he get's there. I have my doubts he will be as dominant in the post season, it happens every year he starts running out of gas in a series and he can get targeted for foul trouble defensively. That's why I value a player like PJ Tucker so much, he has proven to be effective over several games against true bigs but also spreads the floor on offense. The guy is simply tough and durable.


you dont need to double embiid. let him get his 40/15/5 and beat them anyway. there is a reason they have a losing record vs .500+ teams and its not because those teams shut embiid down
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Post#213 » by NetsJets » Tue Mar 9, 2021 2:30 pm

I have mixed feelings about this move. He brings depth and experience to a title contender. He just doesn’t necessarily provide what we need right now.
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Post#214 » by The Goonibomber » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:43 am

Does this signing mean that Tyler Cook is on his way back to the G League in a few days?
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Post#215 » by therealbig3 » Sun Jun 6, 2021 5:06 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:I know he's been trash this year, but this is exciting if he comes here.

You can hopefully work him in for 18+ mpg during the regular season to keep our key guys healthy and maybe 10 per game in the playoffs.

That's a point that no one's touching upon. Say he's mediocre, but playable as solid veteran minute eater for some arbitrary number like 12 minutes per during the rest of the regular season? During the playoffs things tighten up and he's 8 mpg with a couple dnp's every series. But then maybe we're in the Finals having a struggle bus game 5, tied 2-2. Nash brings him in early second quarter and he turns the clock back and goes off, helping us storm back from like 17 down and plays 28 sick minutes to help us take a 3-2 lead. At that point, that is when you're going to look at him and say, this exact moment, is exactly the reason Griffin was brought on instead of some bum like MKG. He didn't have to be good, or even average consistently. He just needs to not be bad a majority of the time and occasionally he wakes up and has an, ah ha! moment and wins us a game.

Lastly, if he chooses us, that's a great thing. Yes chooses us. We're not choosing him. As reports say, LAL, LAC, GSW, and the Heat are going to pursue him. That's a lot of smart, well run, playoff teams that would like to add him. He's a super low risk, super high upside, no brainer.


Pretty much called it lol. He was a monster in game 1 against Milwaukee.
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Post#216 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Jun 7, 2021 3:13 am

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vincecarter4pres wrote:I know he's been trash this year, but this is exciting if he comes here.

You can hopefully work him in for 18+ mpg during the regular season to keep our key guys healthy and maybe 10 per game in the playoffs.

That's a point that no one's touching upon. Say he's mediocre, but playable as solid veteran minute eater for some arbitrary number like 12 minutes per during the rest of the regular season? During the playoffs things tighten up and he's 8 mpg with a couple dnp's every series. But then maybe we're in the Finals having a struggle bus game 5, tied 2-2. Nash brings him in early second quarter and he turns the clock back and goes off, helping us storm back from like 17 down and plays 28 sick minutes to help us take a 3-2 lead. At that point, that is when you're going to look at him and say, this exact moment, is exactly the reason Griffin was brought on instead of some bum like MKG. He didn't have to be good, or even average consistently. He just needs to not be bad a majority of the time and occasionally he wakes up and has an, ah ha! moment and wins us a game.

Lastly, if he chooses us, that's a great thing. Yes chooses us. We're not choosing him. As reports say, LAL, LAC, GSW, and the Heat are going to pursue him. That's a lot of smart, well run, playoff teams that would like to add him. He's a super low risk, super high upside, no brainer.


Pretty much called it lol. He was a monster in game 1 against Milwaukee.

Dude has been yamming all over dudes haha, hitting 3’s, playing average-ish defense even though he’s either overmatched height and bulk-wise against 5’s, or athletically against wings and quick 4’s, takes charges, rotates, great passes, just energy filled winning basketball and good vibes. Great pickup.
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Re: Shams: Blake Griffin signs with the Nets! (Vets Minimum Deal) 

Post#217 » by HardenGoat » Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:59 pm

Hoping for a big game today for Blake. He was aggressive the first 2 games and he set a tone in the paint though shall not pass. He also shot the 3 but for some reason he elected to defer those last game. I feel like he dictates our energy out there. Please be aggressive! Let’s stomp them Blake!

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