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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1121 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Mar 9, 2021 4:43 am

gobullschi wrote:OPJ + Markkanen + 2021 1st for Wiggins & 2021 1st (MIN)

Warriors free up cap space to retain Oubre and secure their front court of the future (Oubre/Markkanen/Wiseman).

Bulls get a chance at adding a top 5 pick.

Obviously, Bulls only do this if they don’t want to pay Markkanen and believe PAW’s future is at power forward.

Coby White / Tomas Satoransky
Zach LaVine / Garrett Temple
Andrew Wiggins / Denzel Valentine
Patrick Williams / Thaddeus Young
Wendell Carter Jr. / Daniel Gafford



I would stop watching Bulls basketball and pray for LaVine to go to a real basketball organization if this happened. That’s how bad this idea is.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1122 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Mar 9, 2021 4:44 am

Any trade has us acquiring Andrew Wiggins is terrible.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1123 » by gobullschi » Tue Mar 9, 2021 5:22 am

WindyCityBorn wrote:
gobullschi wrote:OPJ + Markkanen + 2021 1st for Wiggins & 2021 1st (MIN)

Warriors free up cap space to retain Oubre and secure their front court of the future (Oubre/Markkanen/Wiseman).

Bulls get a chance at adding a top 5 pick.

Obviously, Bulls only do this if they don’t want to pay Markkanen and believe PAW’s future is at power forward.

Coby White / Tomas Satoransky
Zach LaVine / Garrett Temple
Andrew Wiggins / Denzel Valentine
Patrick Williams / Thaddeus Young
Wendell Carter Jr. / Daniel Gafford



I would stop watching Bulls basketball and pray for LaVine to go to a real basketball organization if this happened. That’s how bad this idea is.


It looks a lot better if they get Evan Mobley or Jalen Suggs with the MIN 1st. Then Wiggins comes off the books when Nikola Jokic, Joel Embiid, Bradley Beal, DeAngelo Russell, Jerami Grant, Christian Wood, & others are all unrestricted free agents.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1124 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Mar 9, 2021 5:44 am

gobullschi wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
gobullschi wrote:OPJ + Markkanen + 2021 1st for Wiggins & 2021 1st (MIN)

Warriors free up cap space to retain Oubre and secure their front court of the future (Oubre/Markkanen/Wiseman).

Bulls get a chance at adding a top 5 pick.

Obviously, Bulls only do this if they don’t want to pay Markkanen and believe PAW’s future is at power forward.

Coby White / Tomas Satoransky
Zach LaVine / Garrett Temple
Andrew Wiggins / Denzel Valentine
Patrick Williams / Thaddeus Young
Wendell Carter Jr. / Daniel Gafford



I would stop watching Bulls basketball and pray for LaVine to go to a real basketball organization if this happened. That’s how bad this idea is.


It looks a lot better if they get Evan Mobley or Jalen Suggs with the MIN 1st. Then Wiggins comes off the books when Nikola Jokic, Joel Embiid, Bradley Beal, DeAngelo Russell, Jerami Grant, Christian Wood, & others are all unrestricted free agents.


A chance at a top 5 pick is not worth taking on Wiggins.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1125 » by Dez » Tue Mar 9, 2021 6:29 am

WindyCityBorn wrote:Any trade has us acquiring Andrew Wiggins is terrible.


Not if he came with the Minny pick but he won't.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1126 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Mar 9, 2021 7:53 am

Dez wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:Any trade has us acquiring Andrew Wiggins is terrible.


Not if he came with the Minny pick but he won't.


It would still be terrible. ALL of our hopes would be on that pick because it basically ends any chance getting a star though free agency or trade through 2023 when his contract ends. Then Zach probably walks in 2022. I definitely would. So you are left with Wiggins, Williams and whoever the Hell they drafted that likely won’t be the surefire HOF player everyone is acting like those top 4 are. I remember when Lonzo Ball was the next Jason Kidd. It’s a crapshoot.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1127 » by CaPiTanAK » Tue Mar 9, 2021 12:59 pm

I would def take Wiggins contract off the Warriors if they’re giving us the Minnesota pick.

Unlike SF and the Warriors, the Golden State team is a premier market for FA signing. Which marquee FA is going to sign with this mom and pop run organization? Certainly not a superstar.

The team has to be built from the draft and undervalued FAs. Once we are good, we can then attract a good second or third option.

Forget the thought that a superstar is going to sign us. That’s not happening. The sooner we come to that realization, the better we will be as an organization for our strategy building this team going forward.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1128 » by Chi town » Tue Mar 9, 2021 2:37 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:
Chi town wrote:Dipo makes the most sense as a 2nd star if you believe is your de facto PG and lead guard.
- You also have to believe in Dipo's health... I think he has been out to rest and keep himself healthy for the deadline
- Can only cost a 2nd round pick/Hutch/Val type of deal... don't see HOU getting a 1st for him since he has said he wants MIA
- Have to believe that Dipo could resign if he played well and fit the team

My prediction is AK stays put and sees what these guys can do when healthy with more BillyD coaching. I think his big move will be at the draft.


Dipo is not a star anymore. Post-prime Wade ring a bell? The worst thing we can do is spend money on a name that does match the current performance. Let him go to Miami.


Dipo just put up 33 and 7 in his last game before the ASB. That is way better than Dud Wade that played for us. Dipo is 28. Wade was 36.
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NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1129 » by Andi Obst » Tue Mar 9, 2021 2:50 pm

Chi town wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
Chi town wrote:Dipo makes the most sense as a 2nd star if you believe is your de facto PG and lead guard.
- You also have to believe in Dipo's health... I think he has been out to rest and keep himself healthy for the deadline
- Can only cost a 2nd round pick/Hutch/Val type of deal... don't see HOU getting a 1st for him since he has said he wants MIA
- Have to believe that Dipo could resign if he played well and fit the team

My prediction is AK stays put and sees what these guys can do when healthy with more BillyD coaching. I think his big move will be at the draft.


Dipo is not a star anymore. Post-prime Wade ring a bell? The worst thing we can do is spend money on a name that does match the current performance. Let him go to Miami.


Dipo just put up 33 and 7 in his last game before the ASB. That is way better than Dud Wade that played for us. Dipo is 28. Wade was 36.


33 points on 25 shots isn’t exactly a great argument for Oladipo. Wall and Dipo were pretty terrible in that game, despite scoring 69 combined points.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1130 » by jnrjr79 » Tue Mar 9, 2021 2:57 pm

LateNight wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
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I love the first part of this and the second part scares me because I don’t want Wiggins



FWIW, if you read the article, it's framed as Otto being a potential buyout candidate who the Warriors would be interested in picking up, rather than being a trade target.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1131 » by Chi town » Tue Mar 9, 2021 3:15 pm

Little Nathan wrote:
Chi town wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
Dipo is not a star anymore. Post-prime Wade ring a bell? The worst thing we can do is spend money on a name that does match the current performance. Let him go to Miami.


Dipo just put up 33 and 7 in his last game before the ASB. That is way better than Dud Wade that played for us. Dipo is 28. Wade was 36.


33 points on 25 shots isn’t exactly a great argument for Oladipo. Walk and Dipo were pretty terrible in that game, despite scoring 69 combined points.


Nah. Comparing Dipo to old man Wade "isn't exactly a great argument."
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1132 » by Andi Obst » Tue Mar 9, 2021 3:20 pm

Chi town wrote:Nah. Comparing Dipo to old man Wade "isn't exactly a great argument."


I didn't and I wouldn't. But Dipo still hasn't been good since he came back from his injury, seems like a meh fit in Chicago and apparently wants to be paid like a star, so I don't understand why we would be interested there.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1133 » by sco » Tue Mar 9, 2021 3:25 pm

Little Nathan wrote:
Chi town wrote:Nah. Comparing Dipo to old man Wade "isn't exactly a great argument."


I didn't and I wouldn't. But Dipo still hasn't been good since he came back from his injury, seems like a meh fit in Chicago and apparently wants to be paid like a star, so I don't understand why we would be interested there.

I like Dipo, but I think he's got the same problem as Lauri and Otto...he's not durable. Signing him to a 4 year deal is signing up for 60%-70% of games played during that time - I think folks overlook that in favor of per game averages.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1134 » by CobyWhite0 » Tue Mar 9, 2021 4:20 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:
gobullschi wrote:OPJ + Markkanen + 2021 1st for Wiggins & 2021 1st (MIN)

Warriors free up cap space to retain Oubre and secure their front court of the future (Oubre/Markkanen/Wiseman).

Bulls get a chance at adding a top 5 pick.

Obviously, Bulls only do this if they don’t want to pay Markkanen and believe PAW’s future is at power forward.

Coby White / Tomas Satoransky
Zach LaVine / Garrett Temple
Andrew Wiggins / Denzel Valentine
Patrick Williams / Thaddeus Young
Wendell Carter Jr. / Daniel Gafford



I would stop watching Bulls basketball and pray for LaVine to go to a real basketball organization if this happened. That’s how bad this idea is.


It's made even more ridiculous when you remember that the MIN pick is top-3 protected. You at least think about it if it's #1, if you think there's a pretty special franchise player available.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1135 » by Rose2Boozer » Tue Mar 9, 2021 5:53 pm

gobullschi wrote:OPJ + Markkanen + 2021 1st for Wiggins & 2021 1st (MIN)

Warriors free up cap space to retain Oubre and secure their front court of the future (Oubre/Markkanen/Wiseman).

Bulls get a chance at adding a top 5 pick.

Obviously, Bulls only do this if they don’t want to pay Markkanen and believe PAW’s future is at power forward.

Coby White / Tomas Satoransky
Zach LaVine / Garrett Temple
Andrew Wiggins / Denzel Valentine
Patrick Williams / Thaddeus Young
Wendell Carter Jr. / Daniel Gafford


The Minnesota pick is unprotected in 2022. I'm sold. I see the Timberwolves as a team that's trending downward. It's only a matter of time before KAT ask to be traded.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1136 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Mar 9, 2021 6:20 pm

Rose2Boozer wrote:
gobullschi wrote:OPJ + Markkanen + 2021 1st for Wiggins & 2021 1st (MIN)

Warriors free up cap space to retain Oubre and secure their front court of the future (Oubre/Markkanen/Wiseman).

Bulls get a chance at adding a top 5 pick.

Obviously, Bulls only do this if they don’t want to pay Markkanen and believe PAW’s future is at power forward.

Coby White / Tomas Satoransky
Zach LaVine / Garrett Temple
Andrew Wiggins / Denzel Valentine
Patrick Williams / Thaddeus Young
Wendell Carter Jr. / Daniel Gafford


The Minnesota pick is unprotected in 2022. I'm sold. I see the Timberwolves as a team that's trending downward. It's only a matter of time before KAT ask to be traded.


You are sold on being capped out through 2023 and being unable to improve the team. This deal has zero chance of happening, but I’m surprised and would be for it. I guess a draft pick that is likely to be be a bust is really enticing for some.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1137 » by Dez » Tue Mar 9, 2021 10:51 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:
Dez wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:Any trade has us acquiring Andrew Wiggins is terrible.


Not if he came with the Minny pick but he won't.


It would still be terrible. ALL of our hopes would be on that pick because it basically ends any chance getting a star though free agency or trade through 2023 when his contract ends. Then Zach probably walks in 2022. I definitely would. So you are left with Wiggins, Williams and whoever the Hell they drafted that likely won’t be the surefire HOF player everyone is acting like those top 4 are. I remember when Lonzo Ball was the next Jason Kidd. It’s a crapshoot.


That pick would be extremely valuable and Wiggins has shown improvement but obviously not enough to justify the contract hence getting the pick.

Getting the pick could be bait for KAT as well, I mean Minny getting their own pick back would actually be appealing for them should KAT want out.

LaVine won't walk, he'll get his contract.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1138 » by d boy gentleman » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:37 am

I would call Houston and see if either Christian Wood or Eric Gordon are available
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Re: NBA Trade Thread # 3 

Post#1139 » by weneeda2guard » Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:35 am

d boy gentleman wrote:I would call Houston and see if either Christian Wood or Eric Gordon are available

I would give up our 1st rd pick protected (top 5) for wood. He is the real deal.
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Post#1140 » by chefo » Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:14 am

weneeda2guard wrote:
d boy gentleman wrote:I would call Houston and see if either Christian Wood or Eric Gordon are available

I would give up our 1st rd pick protected (top 5) for wood. He is the real deal.


Same. Won't happen though. Hyper-productive, well-shooting, 25 year old, hustling 'bigs' at 14M per don't get traded.

Hell, I'd give them WCJ and take back any contract they ask me to off their hands--say Wall. What's that look like?

44M + 13.5M so we need to send 57ish back? So let's see-- WCJ (5.5), Otto (28.5), Shrek (8), Sato (10), Val (4.5). Throw in a pick swap and a couple of 2nds.

Wall / Coby
Zach / Coby
Paw / Temple
Lauri / Thad
Wood / Thad / Gafford

That team figures to kick some posterior, no?

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