NBA Trade Thread # 3

[HouseOfLight]

I would def take Wiggins contract off the Warriors if they’re giving us the Minnesota pick.

Unlike SF and the Warriors, the Golden State team is a premier market for FA signing. Which marquee FA is going to sign with this mom and pop run organization? Certainly not a superstar.

The team has to be built from the draft and undervalued FAs. Once we are good, we can then attract a good second or third option.

Forget the thought that a superstar is going to sign us. That’s not happening. The sooner we come to that realization, the better we will be as an organization for our strategy building this team going forward.

[FriedRise]

Sources now believe Young is no longer gettable without an offer that Chicago can’t refuse.

There’s talk of a potential buyout for often-injured Porter, but that seems more speculative wishes from interested parties than rooted in team strategy.

The Bulls will take calls but are no longer itching to make moves.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2021/03/09/the-bulls-are-reportedly-no-longer-itching-to-make-move-at-the-trade-deadline/

[mtron32]

OPJ + Markkanen + 2021 1st for Wiggins & 2021 1st (MIN)

Warriors free up cap space to retain Oubre and secure their front court of the future (Oubre/Markkanen/Wiseman).

Bulls get a chance at adding a top 5 pick.

Obviously, Bulls only do this if they don’t want to pay Markkanen and believe PAW’s future is at power forward.

Coby White / Tomas Satoransky
Zach LaVine / Garrett Temple
Andrew Wiggins / Denzel Valentine
Patrick Williams / Thaddeus Young
Wendell Carter Jr. / Daniel Gafford

I would stop watching Bulls basketball and pray for LaVine to go to a real basketball organization if this happened. That’s how bad this idea is.

It looks a lot better if they get Evan Mobley or Jalen Suggs with the MIN 1st. Then Wiggins comes off the books when Nikola Jokic, Joel Embiid, Bradley Beal, DeAngelo Russell, Jerami Grant, Christian Wood, & others are all unrestricted free agents.

If AK did this deal he’d be run out of town for making this deal. Why move a first round pick for Wiggins trash contract? That’s making moves for the sake of doing something, Wiggins does nothing fit the Bulls, he only looks good because he has a HOF pg feeding him

[Dez]

I would stop watching Bulls basketball and pray for LaVine to go to a real basketball organization if this happened. That’s how bad this idea is.

It looks a lot better if they get Evan Mobley or Jalen Suggs with the MIN 1st. Then Wiggins comes off the books when Nikola Jokic, Joel Embiid, Bradley Beal, DeAngelo Russell, Jerami Grant, Christian Wood, & others are all unrestricted free agents.

If AK did this deal he’d be run out of town for making this deal. Why move a first round pick for Wiggins trash contract? That’s making moves for the sake of doing something, Wiggins does nothing fit the Bulls, he only looks good because he has a HOF pg feeding him

You realize that Chicago would be getting a better first round pick back right?

[mtron32]

It looks a lot better if they get Evan Mobley or Jalen Suggs with the MIN 1st. Then Wiggins comes off the books when Nikola Jokic, Joel Embiid, Bradley Beal, DeAngelo Russell, Jerami Grant, Christian Wood, & others are all unrestricted free agents.

If AK did this deal he’d be run out of town for making this deal. Why move a first round pick for Wiggins trash contract? That’s making moves for the sake of doing something, Wiggins does nothing fit the Bulls, he only looks good because he has a HOF pg feeding him

You realize that Chicago would be getting a better first round pick back right?

There is no guarantee based on standings anymore, we’d be making this pick to have a better chance at one. Who’s to say our pick won’t be high as well? We still have a deadly half a season to play, we could very well be a lottery team.

[WindyCityBorn]

If AK did this deal he’d be run out of town for making this deal. Why move a first round pick for Wiggins trash contract? That’s making moves for the sake of doing something, Wiggins does nothing fit the Bulls, he only looks good because he has a HOF pg feeding him

You realize that Chicago would be getting a better first round pick back right?

There is no guarantee based on standings anymore, we’d be making this pick to have a better chance at one. Who’s to say our pick won’t be high as well? We still have a deadly half a season to play, we could very well be a lottery team.

Well said. Wiggins trash contract is not worth a CHANCE for a better pick and we could very well end up with high pick of our own.

[mtron32]

[gfycat][/gfycat]

You realize that Chicago would be getting a better first round pick back right?

There is no guarantee based on standings anymore, we’d be making this pick to have a better chance at one. Who’s to say our pick won’t be high as well? We still have a deadly half a season to play, we could very well be a lottery team.

Well said. Wiggins trash contract is not worth a CHANCE for a better pick and we could very well end up with high pick of our own.

Plus we’d have Wiggins

[WindyCityBorn]

[gfycat][/gfycat]

There is no guarantee based on standings anymore, we’d be making this pick to have a better chance at one. Who’s to say our pick won’t be high as well? We still have a deadly half a season to play, we could very well be a lottery team.

Well said. Wiggins trash contract is not worth a CHANCE for a better pick and we could very well end up with high pick of our own.

Plus we’d have Wiggins

Thankfully GarPax are gone.

[PrimzyBulls81]

Sources now believe Young is no longer gettable without an offer that Chicago can’t refuse.

There’s talk of a potential buyout for often-injured Porter, but that seems more speculative wishes from interested parties than rooted in team strategy.

The Bulls will take calls but are no longer itching to make moves.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2021/03/09/the-bulls-are-reportedly-no-longer-itching-to-make-move-at-the-trade-deadline/

Title is kinda odd.. I hope they are considering some moves at least.

[Threekola]

Really surprised there wouldn't be more support for a deal where we send our first and Otto for Wiggins and the Minnesota first. Yes, Wiggins' deal is awful for who he is as a player. But, as a backup wing for the next two years, as a player, I can deal with it.

Obviously though the upside is that Minnesota pick, they have the worst record in the league, whereas we have a pretty decent chance to make the playoffs. And this is a strong draft, perhaps our best chance to add a star with Zach. I've gotta be one of the biggest "screw it, let's add some pieces and see what we can do now" guy there is, but I'm still not thumbing my nose at an opportunity to add Suggs/Cunningham/Mobley to a long term core with Zach, Pat, and Laurie.

Also, Wiggins contract isn't so bad. It's two more years, so next year it's not all that helpful, but who are we signing anyway? But the year after that it's expiring which would give us some flexibility to add a vet to that core.

[BigJimFinn]

Really surprised there wouldn't be more support for a deal where we send our first and Otto for Wiggins and the Minnesota first. Yes, Wiggins' deal is awful for who he is as a player. But, as a backup wing for the next two years, as a player, I can deal with it.

Obviously though the upside is that Minnesota pick, they have the worst record in the league, whereas we have a pretty decent chance to make the playoffs. And this is a strong draft, perhaps our best chance to add a star with Zach. I've gotta be one of the biggest "screw it, let's add some pieces and see what we can do now" guy there is, but I'm still not thumbing my nose at an opportunity to add Suggs/Cunningham/Mobley to a long term core with Zach, Pat, and Laurie.

Also, Wiggins contract isn't so bad. It's two more years, so next year it's not all that helpful, but who are we signing anyway? But the year after that it's expiring which would give us some flexibility to add a vet to that core.

Please remember the Minnesota pick is top 3 protected, so Wolves having worst record this year does not add to the asset value for GSW. It will not get you Cunningham, and there is strong likelihood it will revert to 2022. So trading their own pick for that in a package risks the Bulls being left without a first round choice in 2021 draft mooted to be strong at top and in depth.

[LateNight]

Sources now believe Young is no longer gettable without an offer that Chicago can’t refuse.

There’s talk of a potential buyout for often-injured Porter, but that seems more speculative wishes from interested parties than rooted in team strategy.

The Bulls will take calls but are no longer itching to make moves.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2021/03/09/the-bulls-are-reportedly-no-longer-itching-to-make-move-at-the-trade-deadline/

Not sure I believe anyone at Bleacher Nation has sources. It’s a new site that got clicks by tricking people into thinking it was SB Nation or Bleacher Report.

[sco]

Saw some article that ORL is not likely to trade Vuc because he's playing well and on a cheapish deal. I'm still think Bamba has real upside and I'd love to nab Fournier in FA anyway, but a try before you buy deal works for me. What about:

Otto/Lauri/Gafford/2 second rounders for Fournier/Bamba/Aminu? Gives them a look at Lauri if they have a taker for Gordon, although I'm not sure how Isaac pairs with Lauri, but think it could be ok. Also gets them out of Aminu's deal.

[sco]

If there's a chance HOU trades Wood, would folks be willing to give up Lauri/Wendell/2021 unprotected 1st?

[Andi Obst]

If there's a chance HOU trades Wood, would folks be willing to give up Lauri/Wendell/2021 unprotected 1st?

Absolutely zero chance I‘m giving up an unprotected pick for Wood, especially with Lauri AND Wendell on top. That’s insane.

[sco]

If there's a chance HOU trades Wood, would folks be willing to give up Lauri/Wendell/2021 unprotected 1st?

Absolutely zero chance I‘m giving up an unprotected pick for Wood, especially with Lauri AND Wendell on top. That’s insane.

IDK, and this is open to debate, but Wood is almost elite. He is what we want Lauri to be, but he never will be. Our pick is likely in the teens. I personally look at trading Lauri as giving this team a chance to succeed without his future absentee-ism tied to a big contract. Carter is/will be easily replaced by an MLE guy.

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

I’m not sure how to feel about Lauri’s value. He was objectively playing well. But he’s been gone and we started to play well without him once WCJ came back.

Could be because of Thad Young’s emergence, but time will tell over the next couple weeks. If Lauri is a net new positive, then we should actually be really good. If we’re the same or worse, he might not be a future piece.

[DroseReturnChi]

If there's a chance HOU trades Wood, would folks be willing to give up Lauri/Wendell/2021 unprotected 1st?

Close call but would much prefer lauri/carter/white and get back Tucker. For Houston it shouldnt matter as White is basically a rookie.

[sco]

If there's a chance HOU trades Wood, would folks be willing to give up Lauri/Wendell/2021 unprotected 1st?

Close call but would much prefer lauri/carter/white and get back Tucker. For Houston it shouldnt matter as White is basically a rookie.

I'd prefer to send White, but I'm sure his trade value is likely equivalent to a non-lotto pick.

[Threekola]

Really surprised there wouldn't be more support for a deal where we send our first and Otto for Wiggins and the Minnesota first. Yes, Wiggins' deal is awful for who he is as a player. But, as a backup wing for the next two years, as a player, I can deal with it.

Obviously though the upside is that Minnesota pick, they have the worst record in the league, whereas we have a pretty decent chance to make the playoffs. And this is a strong draft, perhaps our best chance to add a star with Zach. I've gotta be one of the biggest "screw it, let's add some pieces and see what we can do now" guy there is, but I'm still not thumbing my nose at an opportunity to add Suggs/Cunningham/Mobley to a long term core with Zach, Pat, and Laurie.

Also, Wiggins contract isn't so bad. It's two more years, so next year it's not all that helpful, but who are we signing anyway? But the year after that it's expiring which would give us some flexibility to add a vet to that core.

Please remember the Minnesota pick is top 3 protected, so Wolves having worst record this year does not add to the asset value for GSW. It will not get you Cunningham, and there is strong likelihood it will revert to 2022. So trading their own pick for that in a package risks the Bulls being left without a first round choice in 2021 draft mooted to be strong at top and in depth.

Ahh, didn’t realize that. Never mind then, I get it.