"We Tried So Hard, and (Haven't) Got so Far, But in the End, It Doesn't Even Matter" Trade Thread

Post #561 » by **Feed Your Head** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:21 am

MagicBagley18 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:Pretty clear that Theis is going to be dealt.

Do u think he could fetch a 1st In this market ?

Nah, but I think we could get back a pretty good player for a Theis/Nesmith/pick package.

zoyathedestroya · Post #562 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:25 am

MJ owes us. Theis + Grant for PJ Washington + Biyombo.

MagicBagley18 · Post #563 » by **MagicBagley18** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:26 am

The Comedian wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:Pretty clear that Theis is going to be dealt.

Do u think he could fetch a 1st In this market ?

Nah, but I think we could get back a pretty good player for a Theis/Nesmith/pick package.

Thats the Barnes deal basically no?

gocelts · Post #564 » by **gocelts** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:30 am

Theis is definitely worth more to us than what he’s worth to other teams. He’s a really good back up center. He just shouldn’t be starting.

He should be worth a pick, but lots of GMs think they can simply draft a better player, but in reality most would be lucky to if they were picking outside the lottery.

zoyathedestroya · Post #565 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:30 am

MagicBagley18 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
Do u think he could fetch a 1st In this market ?

Nah, but I think we could get back a pretty good player for a Theis/Nesmith/pick package.

Thats the Barnes deal basically no?

I think that's enough to get under tax, yes. Maybe Theis to a third team.

zoyathedestroya · Post #566 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:41 am

Thompson and Kemba for Dame Lillard and Kanter lol.

WeLikeOurGuys · Post #567 » by **WeLikeOurGuys** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:47 am

If Theis is going to be dealt we need another big.
I love RW but I don’t trust him to stay healthy.

Celts17Pride · Post #568 » by **Celts17Pride** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:50 am

I’m pretty sure Theis is involved in a three team trade between Bos/Sac/Chi that’s what I am hearing from myself.

Boston gets Satoransky, T Young, Barnes and C Joseph

Chicago gets Kemba, G Williams, Edwards and two 2nd round picks

Sacramento gets OPJ, Theis, Nesmith, 2021 1st round pick.

This is what I am hearing from myself. FWIW

Post #569 » by **Feed Your Head** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:01 am

robdog_5 · Post #570 » by **robdog_5** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:02 am

If Theis goes you can just insert a true 4. Someone like Nance

Curmudgeon · Post #571 » by **Curmudgeon** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:13 am

Theis is a "true 4" who has been forced to play center. If dealt he will be missed, but the reality is that Ainge doesn't want to pay him. There was a similar scenario when Auerbach didn't want to pay Paul Silas in 1976, but Silas was 32 and on the decline. Even so, he won another rink with the Sonics. Theis, meanwhile, is just entering his prime.

robdog_5 · Post #572 » by **robdog_5** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:28 am

Curmudgeon wrote:Theis is a "true 4" who has been forced to play center. If dealt he will be missed, but the reality is that Ainge doesn't want to pay him. There was a similar scenario when Auerbach didn't want to pay Paul Silas in 1976, but Silas was 32 and on the decline. Even so, he won another rink with the Sonics. Theis, meanwhile, is just entering his prime.

I like Theis but agree he's gonna be gone because their not gonna want to pay him.

AKFO · Post #573 » by **AKFO** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:41 am

Nobody is gonna give Theis more than the MLE. And just because Stevens committed to a one-big lineup tonight doesn't mean Theis will be dealt. It's pretty important for this team to have three options at the 5, given all our bigs bring something different to the table and none of them are world beaters. If we lose Theis, we suddenly have a big hole in the roster at the 5, especially if someone gets injured.

Jammer · Post #574 » by **Jammer** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:29 am

Curmudgeon wrote:Theis is a "true 4" who has been forced to play center. If dealt he will be missed, but the reality is that Ainge doesn't want to pay him. There was a similar scenario when Auerbach didn't want to pay Paul Silas in 1976, but Silas was 32 and on the decline. Even so, he won another rink with the Sonics. Theis, meanwhile, is just entering his prime.

Silas was 34 in 1976 and was traded for Curtis Rowe, a 6' 7.5" combo forward who averaged 13 ppg, 8 rpg his 1rst season in Boston. It was a worthwhile trade given Silas was 34 when traded and received a 3 year contract. Silas did win a 3rd championship at age 37 and was President of the Players Association, but the Celtics were trying to get younger by bringing in 27 year old Curtis Rowe.

Fierce1 · Post #575 » by **Fierce1** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:31 am

It's very obvious Rob Williams is the Center of the future.
Rob is a special player.
He just needs to stay healthy.

Theis is really the odd man out among the 3 Celtic Centers.

TT gives you the enforcer type Center who gets lots of rebounds.

Rob should get more minutes as the season progresses.

Ainge is better off getting something significant for Theis.
Once Theis enters free-agency, Celts could end up losing him for nothing.

GoCeltics123 · Post #576 » by **GoCeltics123** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:43 am

The Comedian wrote:Pretty clear that Theis is going to be dealt.

Read on Twitter

Yep. This is pretty damning right here

GoGreen · Post #577 » by **GoGreen** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:09 am

Are they really going to limit Theis and not trade him? Cmon Danny, get SOMETHING back for the guy ffs

Fierce1 · Post #578 » by **Fierce1** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:31 am

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2021/03/15/celtics-robert-williams-wants-minutes

For his part, however, Williams says his hip is feeling significantly better.

“To be honest, obviously I want as many minutes as I can get,” Williams said.

Increasingly, he’s earning them. Pace-adjusted stats aren’t always reliable, but Williams is averaging 15.7 points, 13.4 rebounds and 3.7 blocks per 36 minutes. He has never played more than 23:04, however — a 10-point output in the Celtics’ win over the Raptors immediately before the All-Star break.

SMTBSI · Post #579 » by **SMTBSI** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:01 am

GoCeltics123 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:Pretty clear that Theis is going to be dealt.

Read on Twitter

Yep. This is pretty damning right here

These tweets are giving everyone the wrong impression. I watched the postgame interview with Stevens that these tweets are based on. He said that with Smart back, we would be playing smaller, and our centers may be getting fewer minutes and nights off, but that they would rotate who that was based on matchup. This is not my interpretation, this is literally what he said. He was absolutely not singling out Theis.

That doesn't mean Theis won't be traded. I figure any and all of our guys are eligible to be traded. But what everyone is running with right now RE: Theis is not at all what Stevens said.

SLCceltic · Post #580 » by **SLCceltic** » Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:53 am

CeltsfaninDC wrote:
SLCceltic wrote:
CeltsfaninDC wrote:
and neither one of you have any legitimate way to make this team a winner this year, now do you? C'mon, lets see the legitimate moves that either one of you would AND could make to elevate this team past BKL, PHL, LAL, UTA, DEN and a few others. Lots of hand wringing, but not one actual plan.

LmA & Kyle Lowry (in division trades muy difícil)
LmA & Barnes plus healthy Kemba gives us a real shot !

Ok, but who are you giving up to get those guys? TOR isn’t just giving Lowry away.

I would happily give up 2-4 1sts for KL if he will resign for 2 more yrs (a 1st for every season he resigns with us haha ...
Nesmith Romeo Theis Grant PP TT teague kemba ALL avail ...Kemba likely need 3rd team

Lowry is the pure Alpha/#1 Jays NEED to really get going