"We Tried So Hard, and (Haven't) Got so Far, But in the End, It Doesn't Even Matter" Trade Thread

[djFan71]

"Ainge No Telling" - Jimi Hendrix

My old band used to cover that song. Axis is my favorite record of all time.

That'd be cool to hear. Wish more bands played deeper covers. My fav local band played Jigsaw Puzzle by the Stones. Ima drummer, what do you play?

Spoiler:

You're definitely a musician - most people asked why we played covers nobody knew.
We only did 1, maybe 2 per show (if it was longer), so we just played ones we liked. I was guitar and vocals in that band. It was just a standard 3 piece. That song is like 1:40 long, but it's insane how many parts there were to learn. We ended up using it as our last song since it was a such a blast to play.

Spoiler tag since nobody else cares, lol.

[zoyathedestroya]

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[Ernest]

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I don't see any logic in moving one of our centers, unless it's a no brainer of a good deal trade or it's because of money reasons.

1. We FINALLY are a good rebounding team

2. Theis isn't really a center

3. The popular idea on here that TT sucks is about as dumb as many of the other popular ideas on here

4. You just know someone will get hurt

5. No one seems unhappy.

[grantlongforpresident]

All good points earnest. TT contributes to this team and should not be liquidated. Depth is important. Rebounding is important.

I’m certainly open to an upgrade but I don’t think we should just trade TT Willy nilly.

[FlatearthZorro]

Maybe I’m just delusional but I’m starting to think John Collins to the Celtics might be a real possibility. I guess it’s just getting late. We’ll see.

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The thing about Collins is that he's decent, but he's not even close to being as good as Brown for example. But to keep Collins around, you'd have to pay him more than what Brown makes.... So for an 18/10 guy, you'd have to pay 30, 30+ mils a year. I believe the Hawks don't want to pay him that amount per se, because having 60, 60+ mils in Collins and Angry Mouse will more than likely not lead to them competing to win win a title. 60+ mils in Collins/Mouse, 20 mils in Gallo, 16 mils in Bogdanovic. That's around 100 mils in 4 players that might not even get you to the playoffs. At that note, I don't see why we'd pay him that. Also, we'd obviously have to dump most if not all of Kemba's salary in the summer to match Collins' contract(or sign him to a contract).

[djFan71]

I don't see any logic in moving one of our centers, unless it's a no brainer of a good deal trade or it's because of money reasons.

1. We FINALLY are a good rebounding team

2. Theis isn't really a center

3. The popular idea on here that TT sucks is about as dumb as many of the other popular ideas on here

4. You just know someone will get hurt

5. No one seems unhappy.

Agreed with the above (and grantlongforprez). (Except #2 - Theis is a small ball center for sure. He's not good as a PF.)

Having 3 options (and 15 fouls) in the playoffs will be very helpful as well. If we get a huge upgrade and lose one (or replace with a cheaper option), great. Otherwise keep 'em all.

[Wes-J]

TT is a zero. He does nothing we don't already possess. People stop acting like a warm body that can provide 5 fouls in the playoffs is worthwhile.

Theis is also a playoff liability. I'm over seeing another wide open three being bricked by this guy over and over. I'm over seeing him being absolutely abused by bigger and more athletic skilled centers.

The move is to at minimum move one even possibly both and trade for upgrades to back up Rob. Among my worst fears is pastor Brad reverting back to playing his binkie Theis and sitting Rob because of "matchups".

Stop the madness they won't be missed.

[Asian Celtic]

**** Barnes, **** Collins, **** A.Gordon, **** **** **** horford.

Gimme Jerami Grant Danny!

[zoyathedestroya]

Show of hands... Since everyone here has their own ideas of improving the team...

Who among here will be content with the team doing nothing instead?

Which I think is the likelier outcome.

[ILC]

I really like Collins. Tons of potential imo which he can't fully show with Young controlling every damn thing.

I like his character, he plays hard and when he speaks he seems smart, hard working, unselfish, wants to win. I really think he'd fit in well with this team.

It would be a slight overpay to match a max offer sheet this summer, but on 20/10 production or something similar he will still be a very moveable contract in the future.

Not sure I'd do it for Smart tho. Try everything not to include him. Theis, PP, Nesmith, two 1sts for Collins and Rondo. Then you can flip Teague and a second for Danuel House or somethIng.

Dump Kemba in the summer and maybe TT too. Smart, Brown, Tatum, Collins, RWIII with Rondo, Romeo, MLE and someone in the TPE during the summer looks really **** good

[Captain_Caveman]

Show of hands... Since everyone here has their own ideas of improving the team...

Who among here will be content with the team doing nothing instead?

Which I think is the likelier outcome.

I won’t hate it.

[FlatearthZorro]

Danny probably wont do much, but I would like it ifhe gets even cheap vets 1 or 2. We need stable bench performers.

[ShermansShoes]

David Bowie:

Ch-"Ainges"

Ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-Ainges
Turn and face the strange
Ch-ch-ch-Ainges
Don't want to be a richer man
Ch-ch-ch-ch-Ainges

On a side note. All for dumping Theis and rolling with TT and Timelord. Would be interested in seeing Ball in Green.

[zoyathedestroya]

Show of hands... Since everyone here has their own ideas of improving the team...

Who among here will be content with the team doing nothing instead?

Which I think is the likelier outcome.

I won’t hate it.

Same. I think moves for guys like Barnes or Gordon are going to be costly, let alone those for Vucevic or Collins.

The smaller ones (Ellington, House, Temple, etc.) won't make a difference imo. I don't have a big of a problem with our "others" as most on the board. It's still about our style of play, health, and how our stars perform.

I do want the young guys to get more burn the rest of the way. Whatever the case, this is the first season in a while that I don't expect a banner.

[Wes-J]

Show of hands... Since everyone here has their own ideas of improving the team...

Who among here will be content with the team doing nothing instead?

Which I think is the likelier outcome.

I won’t hate it.

Same, more I think about it.

The market is terrible for buyers. I'd hate to have to ship off Nesmith and Romeo without having any kind of clue of their value, seems like a waste.

If we're moving multiple FRPs there isn't much out there worth doing it for. The most I offer for Barnes is a protected FRP and Grant, Edwards etc. Kings are done don't offer any more than that.

No way in hell I'm shipping Smart for Collins or whatever else.

[Wes-J]

Again FTR I just want all Brad binkies eradicated, nothing major at all.

That makes me happy.

[zoyathedestroya]

Again FTR I just want all Brad binkies eradicated, nothing major at all.

That makes me happy.

Let me guess. Theis for a bag of chips and Grant for a six-pack? Then you'll enjoy the games more?

[FlatearthZorro]

**** Barnes, **** Collins, **** A.Gordon, **** **** **** horford.

Gimme Jerami Grant Danny!

You can't trade for somebody who's not on the trading block..

[chrisab123]

How disappointing is this trade deadline going to be?

The hype train is already chugging and I'm trying to jump on, but it's picking up speed and I'm just stuck in the station.

I'm having a hard time gearing myself up for ten days of Crazy Trader Danny could do anything only for nothing to come to fruition. Ainge hasn't made a deadline deal in six years, SIX! Can someone talk me off the ledge?

Danny already pushing the TPE to the off-season. Maybe the early part of the rebuild spoiled me, but at this point this team seems stagnant unless you're talking about defections. I'm typically not one for doom and gloom, but I'm feeling the internal growth sentiment rising with every trade rumor that gets bandied about.

Heck people are acting like Barnes is a done deal, but I just feel like it's smoke. I hope I'm wrong, but it feels like unless Ainge has a way to acquire Beal he's not shooting his shot.

I have to agree here. Ainge is going to stand pat at the deadline again because he is nervous that if he pushes Brad to do anything crazy such as incorporate a new player at the deadline he'll leave. I think the Brad to Duke thing is still very real whenever Coach K retires. Honestly, it wouldn't be a bad thing for everyone involved. Brad can't coach stars and doesn't want veteran assistants helping him out. He prefers failed mid major coaches on his staff. Let Brad go back to college so this team can get back to running itself like a real NBA franchise and not a college program. The fact they are a "contender" and have half of the roster that they do is a complete disgrace. Tatum, Brown, Smart, RW3, TT, Theis and Prichard maybe would be the only guys that would even have a spot on a contending roster. Teague is washed. Grant Williams would be in the G league or riding the bench. Same with Semi. This board is the only one that could talk about a player with real flaws that hasn't played much in two years (Romeo) and talk about him being untouchable or close to it.

Honestly even just shuffling the deck chairs and making a 1-1 swap of Semi for a similar player would at least restore my belief that Danny Ainge has control over the roster in season.

[darrendaye]

Show of hands... Since everyone here has their own ideas of improving the team...

Who among here will be content with the team doing nothing instead?

Which I think is the likelier outcome.

I won’t hate it.

Same. I think moves for guys like Barnes or Gordon are going to be costly, let alone those for Vucevic or Collins.

The smaller ones (Ellington, House, Temple, etc.) won't make a difference imo. I don't have a big of a problem with our "others" as most on the board. It's still about our style of play, health, and how our stars perform.

I do want the young guys to get more burn the rest of the way. Whatever the case, this is the first season in a while that I don't expect a banner.

I've been the obnoxious jerk who has made 90% of his responses in these threads arguing not to make a move. I'm counting down the days. If they can find a deal for the guy they drafted to be a microwave scorer type but don't seem to really have had a plan for (Carsen Edwards) for a vet expiring shooter type, have at it. I would be fine with dealing Grant. At least he has a decent body of work and a hot shooting stint in the playoffs on his resume where you'd think he was decently valued.

For me, no Langford, no Nesmith, and no 1st rounders beyond 2021.