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Post#1081 » by Fierce1 » Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:25 pm

31to6 wrote:Yeah Fierce that'd take many years (and I'm not rooting for it). It's not going to help convince Wyc to use the TPE this season, for example. The average in-attendance fan has no idea what a TPE or the luxury tax is.


Agree.

Even when Bird retired, it took a couple of seasons before the attendance was really down.
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Post#1082 » by bucknersrevenge » Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:29 pm

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Collins probably makes more sense than Barnes because the Celtics could avoid the tax this year. I mean $25 million of Collins vs $22 million of Barnes. Collins is younger. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ainge is making a major push for Collins



Or if Collins leaves in FA to a capped out team, maybe they'd send back a good enough player that we'd be happy to use the TPE that way.

Yeah, right ...


Well Collins is restricted so we'd have the right to match any offer. Even teams flush with cash might be wary of making an offer and having that offer tied up for 72 hours while sure things come off the market.
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Post#1083 » by jeremym480 » Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:31 pm

31to6 wrote:maybe there IS no Harrison Barnes

maybe we just dreamed up some guy who would fit into the TPE, on a decreasing deal, on a team that's lost 11 games in a row, just as some sort of like group hallucination


This reminds me of when I was really into HBO's The Leftovers and made this when Harrison Barnes disappeared in the Finals

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Post#1084 » by Fierce1 » Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:31 pm

Celts should be wary of players wearing #20.

A former #20 left in free-agency to join Lebron in Miami.

The last #20 to leave in free-agency is in Charlotte now.

John Collins wears #20.
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Post#1085 » by Bad-Thoma » Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:47 pm

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Of course but if he can't fix his mess he should step aside no? Miami just made the finals over us. We're tied with the Knicks. Rozier and Hayward killing it. Where's the pride. Where's the change. Where's the effort.


What mess? We've got one of the best young cores in the league and they've already got a ton of playoff experience. This season has been all over the place but as far as I know Ainge didn't cause covid which completely killed the off-season and he didn't injure anyone on the team keeping our expected team from playing together. Other than a couple teams at the top and a couple at the bottom the whole league is all over the map right now.


Well another poster used mess and I ran with it. Your points are all valid of course but doesn't it seem like Ainge is scrambling, reacting to the product he built rather than leading, creating a contender. Ainge should admit it and pivot :nod:


Fair enough, though he has admitted they aren't title ready as constituted. As for Ainge "scrambling" he, per usual, is linked to pretty much every name out there, whether anything happens now or in the off season he's not sitting on his hands. Fans are desperate for a move and Ainge isn't (rightly so) so he's going to take some criticism but no matter what he does he's taking criticism, this is Boston. I'm just glad a bunch of dumb ass impatient fans aren't in charge, we'd be Billy Kingin this thing to ****.
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Post#1086 » by JediMasterRevan » Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:51 pm

Combining some rumors of Orlando likening kemba alot, Lowry getting shopped to a contender, Thompson being shopped and toronto being a potential landing spot.


Kemba, Edwards to Orlando
Thompson, Langford to Toronto
Lowry, Gordon, Fournier to Boston


Lowry/Pritchard/Teague
Smart/Fournier/Green
Brown/Nesmith/Semi
Tatum/Gordon/GrantW
Theis/Williams3/

About 5 mill left under hard cap to address a cheap depth center/maybe a backup sf upgrade on Nesmith.

Lowry
Smart
Brown
Tatum
any center

that is game changing defensively

Top 8 for playoffs are
Tatum
Brown
Lowry
Smart
Theis
Fournier
Gordon
Timelord
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Post#1087 » by JediMasterRevan » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:02 pm

Kemba and Edwards to Orlando
Semi and Teague to OKC (2nd rounder too)

Fournier, Gordon, Hill, and K Williams to Boston.

Smart/Hill/Pritchard
Brown/Fournier/Romeo
Tatum/Green/Nesmith
Gordon/K. Williams/G.Williams
Theis/Thompson/Timelord
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Post#1088 » by akidlittle » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:06 pm

If Collins rumors are true, I think that JT-JB-Collins-Smart-Williams lineup looks pretty good
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Post#1089 » by Bad-Thoma » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:08 pm

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Fans will be back in the Garden in 13 days.

If Celts continue to lose, Celtic fans will eventually lose interest and there will be a lot of empty seats at the Garden.


At this point I really don't even know what you are talking about.

A: The C's have had a winning record 14 out of the last 20 years, 8 of the last 10. They've been to the conference finals 3 of the last 4.

B: The Celtics average for the last 12 seasons is about 95% capacity.

C: What are you even talking about?
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Post#1090 » by ddb » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:22 pm

JediMasterRevan wrote:Combining some rumors of Orlando likening kemba alot, Lowry getting shopped to a contender, Thompson being shopped and toronto being a potential landing spot.


Kemba, Edwards to Orlando
Thompson, Langford to Toronto
Lowry, Gordon, Fournier to Boston


Lowry/Pritchard/Teague
Smart/Fournier/Green
Brown/Nesmith/Semi
Tatum/Gordon/GrantW
Theis/Williams3/

About 5 mill left under hard cap to address a cheap depth center/maybe a backup sf upgrade on Nesmith.

Lowry
Smart
Brown
Tatum
any center

that is game changing defensively

Top 8 for playoffs are
Tatum
Brown
Lowry
Smart
Theis
Fournier
Gordon
Timelord


hate to be a prick but that's a horrible deal for Toronto & Orlando & an AMAZING deal for Boston. Let's get real here.
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Post#1091 » by yeleven11 » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:27 pm

ddb wrote:
JediMasterRevan wrote:Combining some rumors of Orlando likening kemba alot, Lowry getting shopped to a contender, Thompson being shopped and toronto being a potential landing spot.


Kemba, Edwards to Orlando
Thompson, Langford to Toronto
Lowry, Gordon, Fournier to Boston


Lowry/Pritchard/Teague
Smart/Fournier/Green
Brown/Nesmith/Semi
Tatum/Gordon/GrantW
Theis/Williams3/

About 5 mill left under hard cap to address a cheap depth center/maybe a backup sf upgrade on Nesmith.

Lowry
Smart
Brown
Tatum
any center

that is game changing defensively

Top 8 for playoffs are
Tatum
Brown
Lowry
Smart
Theis
Fournier
Gordon
Timelord


hate to be a prick but that's a horrible deal for Toronto & Orlando & an AMAZING deal for Boston. Let's get real here.


Ehh maybe for Orlando but Langford and Thompson for an expiring 34 year old Lowry is decent. Are all you guys just out on Romeo here? I probably wont deal him in a deal for an expiring Lowry
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Post#1092 » by GoCeltics123 » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:28 pm

ddb wrote:
JediMasterRevan wrote:
Spoiler:
Combining some rumors of Orlando likening kemba alot, Lowry getting shopped to a contender, Thompson being shopped and toronto being a potential landing spot.


Kemba, Edwards to Orlando
Thompson, Langford to Toronto
Lowry, Gordon, Fournier to Boston


Lowry/Pritchard/Teague
Smart/Fournier/Green
Brown/Nesmith/Semi
Tatum/Gordon/GrantW
Theis/Williams3/

About 5 mill left under hard cap to address a cheap depth center/maybe a backup sf upgrade on Nesmith.

Lowry
Smart
Brown
Tatum
any center

that is game changing defensively

Top 8 for playoffs are
Tatum
Brown
Lowry
Smart
Theis
Fournier
Gordon
Timelord


hate to be a prick but that's a horrible deal for Toronto & Orlando & an AMAZING deal for Boston. Let's get real here.

Hey ddb have you mentioned the Danny not liking this team and wanting to make deals bomb a few days ago, did you hear anything specific like if Tristan Thompson is one of the guys he wants to move? What Haynes said the other day was really interesting, thanks
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Post#1093 » by GoCeltics123 » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:32 pm

Also just wanna say, it's not talked about much, but if Milsap hadn't had a change of heart and picked Boston, I feel we'd be in a better spot. Even if he gets hurt all the time and is old.
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Post#1094 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:33 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:I’d bet strongly ainge doesn’t move kemba right now

Yep. Definitely an offseason thing, makes WAY more sense

Again it depends on the deal. If Ainge gets a great offer for Kemba and refuses he should be fired.
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Post#1095 » by moonie_mcgee » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:37 pm

Bad-Thoma wrote:
moonie_mcgee wrote:
Bad-Thoma wrote:
What mess? We've got one of the best young cores in the league and they've already got a ton of playoff experience. This season has been all over the place but as far as I know Ainge didn't cause covid which completely killed the off-season and he didn't injure anyone on the team keeping our expected team from playing together. Other than a couple teams at the top and a couple at the bottom the whole league is all over the map right now.


Well another poster used mess and I ran with it. Your points are all valid of course but doesn't it seem like Ainge is scrambling, reacting to the product he built rather than leading, creating a contender. Ainge should admit it and pivot :nod:


Fair enough, though he has admitted they aren't title ready as constituted. As for Ainge "scrambling" he, per usual, is linked to pretty much every name out there, whether anything happens now or in the off season he's not sitting on his hands. Fans are desperate for a move and Ainge isn't (rightly so) so he's going to take some criticism but no matter what he does he's taking criticism, this is Boston. I'm just glad a bunch of dumb ass impatient fans aren't in charge, we'd be Billy Kingin this thing to ****.


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Post#1096 » by MagicBagley18 » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:40 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:I’d bet strongly ainge doesn’t move kemba right now

Yep. Definitely an offseason thing, makes WAY more sense

Again it depends on the deal. If Ainge gets a great offer for Kemba and refuses he should be fired.


There’s a part of that sentence that won’t happen right now- great deal for kemba. Possibly ever again but definitely not now
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Post#1097 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:41 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
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GoCeltics123 wrote:Yep. Definitely an offseason thing, makes WAY more sense

Again it depends on the deal. If Ainge gets a great offer for Kemba and refuses he should be fired.


There’s a part of that sentence that won’t happen right now- great deal for kemba. Possibly ever again but definitely not now

Didn't say there was a great deal out there. Said if there is you move him.

I personally believe there is no deal out there at all. Good or Bad.
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Post#1098 » by GoGreen » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:44 pm

The Comedian wrote:If we are able to trade Kemba in a non salary dump trade, I’d eat my shoe.


If we are able to trade Kemba in a non salary dump trade, I'll also eat your shoe
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Post#1099 » by JediMasterRevan » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:48 pm

ddb wrote:
JediMasterRevan wrote:Combining some rumors of Orlando likening kemba alot, Lowry getting shopped to a contender, Thompson being shopped and toronto being a potential landing spot.


Kemba, Edwards to Orlando
Thompson, Langford to Toronto
Lowry, Gordon, Fournier to Boston


Lowry/Pritchard/Teague
Smart/Fournier/Green
Brown/Nesmith/Semi
Tatum/Gordon/GrantW
Theis/Williams3/

About 5 mill left under hard cap to address a cheap depth center/maybe a backup sf upgrade on Nesmith.

Lowry
Smart
Brown
Tatum
any center

that is game changing defensively

Top 8 for playoffs are
Tatum
Brown
Lowry
Smart
Theis
Fournier
Gordon
Timelord


hate to be a prick but that's a horrible deal for Toronto & Orlando & an AMAZING deal for Boston. Let's get real here.


I do not see how that is horrible for Orlando at all.
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Post#1100 » by djFan71 » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:49 pm

GoGreen wrote:
The Comedian wrote:If we are able to trade Kemba in a non salary dump trade, I’d eat my shoe.


If we are able to trade Kemba in a non salary dump trade, I'll also eat your shoe

How's that gonna work logistically? Are we talking baby bird style? Sharing a la Lady & The Tramp?
Enquiring minds want to know.

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