Official Anthony Edwards Thread

[Jedzz]

Edwards shooting percentage is a disaster right now. You can say his eye test looks better, but the numbers speak for themselves. This kid is bad at jump shooting. He should be starting when Dlo and Beasley are out (assuming the goal is winning rather than development,) but once they are back he should be leading the second unit. He needs to learn to play proper defense, play team ball, play within himself, and basically to improve his game in every way. He is clearly not the player you want him to be YET.

Would you say the same thing about a rookie shooting .417/.290/.754 on 18.9 FGA per game?

Spoiler:

If so, congrats on benching LeBron James!

And LaVine might have more potent stats than Lebron this season or at least higher than some of his seasons but Lebron was picking Allstar teams and LaVine was a reserve. Nobody ever said this is a perfect league. There is always something real to argue over. We could make the argument that Lebron might have been even more consistent early on in say the playoffs had he been developed wiser from the start. It's not like he didn't have people questioning him often in the playoffs there for a while. I would argue the Lebron of the last two seasons is my favorite Lebron I've ever really watched because he's finally the smartest Lebron on court we've ever really witnessed. He may or may not ever get that playoff win/loss ratio over Jordan's which is maybe one of the last big things hanging over him in difference.

[Klomp]

Edwards shooting percentage is a disaster right now. You can say his eye test looks better, but the numbers speak for themselves. This kid is bad at jump shooting. He should be starting when Dlo and Beasley are out (assuming the goal is winning rather than development,) but once they are back he should be leading the second unit. He needs to learn to play proper defense, play team ball, play within himself, and basically to improve his game in every way. He is clearly not the player you want him to be YET.

Would you say the same thing about a rookie shooting .417/.290/.754 on 18.9 FGA per game?

Spoiler:

If so, congrats on benching LeBron James!

Ask yourself 3 questions. 1, Who was on Cavs during Lebron’s rookie season that you would rather have shooting? 2, Was the game as 3 point oriented when Lebron was a rookie? 3. How was the rest of Lebron’s game compared to the rest of Ant’s game? Lebron was a force from day one, Ant is no where close to that level of threat yet.

None of that matters. As you said, THE NUMBERS SPOKE FOR THEMSELVES!

[Jedzz]

Would you say the same thing about a rookie shooting .417/.290/.754 on 18.9 FGA per game?

Spoiler:

If so, congrats on benching LeBron James!

Ask yourself 3 questions. 1, Who was on Cavs during Lebron’s rookie season that you would rather have shooting? 2, Was the game as 3 point oriented when Lebron was a rookie? 3. How was the rest of Lebron’s game compared to the rest of Ant’s game? Lebron was a force from day one, Ant is no where close to that level of threat yet.

None of that matters. As you said, THE NUMBERS SPOKE FOR THEMSELVES!

I have to side with both of you on this one. Both making good points. This for once was a good example Klomp threw at you. Of course it should also be seen as different, because Lebron isn't typical in any sense of describing an NBA player.

[winforlose]

Would you say the same thing about a rookie shooting .417/.290/.754 on 18.9 FGA per game?

Spoiler:

If so, congrats on benching LeBron James!

Ask yourself 3 questions. 1, Who was on Cavs during Lebron’s rookie season that you would rather have shooting? 2, Was the game as 3 point oriented when Lebron was a rookie? 3. How was the rest of Lebron’s game compared to the rest of Ant’s game? Lebron was a force from day one, Ant is no where close to that level of threat yet.

None of that matters. As you said, THE NUMBERS SPOKE FOR THEMSELVES!

Klomp be serious. You know I said a little more than that and I addressed things like defense, passing ect... You can ignore context all you want, but we both know when you do it makes an A** out of you. Lebron never had a KAT to play with in his rookie season. Lebron was a decent defender. Lebron took 217 3s all year, Ant has taken 251 in less than half a regular NBA season. I could go on, but the point is if you honestly believe Ant is Lebron or there situations are even remotely similar then we disagree on more than I thought. If you actually wish to discuss my position beyond one sentence which is still correct BTW in the context of today’s NBA, let me know.

[FinnTheHuman]

Just a cursory hypothetical, not a suggestion or opinion either way. I am wondering if seeing the upside Ant possess would anyone make any of the following trades. For the purposes of this hypo assume all salaries were equal (even though they are obviously not equal.)

1. Ant for Zion
2. Ant for Wiseman
3. Ant for Lamelo ball

Right now I'd probably make all three trades. If Edwards hits his potential peak he will be a more valuable player than all of them (debatable with Melo) because I think top shelf guards have more value than top shelf bigs. That said, I think he has a long ways to climb to get there and the odds aren't likely he will so I'd roll the dice with the others who seem to have better NBA games right now.

What? Did you even watch Wiseman? He's this draft's most probable bust, low in the bbiq department.

And I ain't trading Edwards for Zion, Zion is gonna have an injury ridden short career.

And Lamelo, he looks great and all, but I still take Ant over him. Ant is more of a traditional sure thing, triple threat wing. I'm not saying it's likely to happen with Lamelo, but guys like MCW and Elfrid Payton looked really promising and had similar types of game as Lamelo. I still highly doubt he's a 39% 3pt shooter, that should drop considering his shooting mechanics and his shooting history before the nba. Who knows what happens to his shot when the crowds come back to the games. Plus our skinny starting lineup needs a chonky guy to balance it out

[_AIJ_]

Wiseman is overrated. Cant even get on the court and not to have a foul call against him

[Calinks]

I'm not a huge Wiseman guy but I think he's more likely to be a good player than Edwards right now. My faith in Edwards is growing but I still think for him to clean up all of his defensive issues, become a really good finisher, and fix his jumpshot,.. those are hard skills to go from poor to great in. It can be done but its harder to see happening than the other 3 being good players IMO because they are closer to being good right now.

[Neeva]

Wiseman is overrated. Cant even get on the court and not to have a foul call against him

He has hands of stone also... most smart warriors fans are over him already never take a low skilled center so high! Warriors and suns found out the hard way and players taken behind them are far more valuable already.

[jpatrick]

Wiseman is overrated. Cant even get on the court and not to have a foul call against him

He has hands of stone also... most smart warriors fans are over him already never take a low skilled center so high! Warriors and suns found out the hard way and players taken behind them are far more valuable already.

This. Unless he develops into Embiid (and I don’t see that), perimeter players will always carry more value.

[FinnTheHuman]

I'm not a huge Wiseman guy but I think he's more likely to be a good player than Edwards right now. My faith in Edwards is growing but I still think for him to clean up all of his defensive issues, become a really good finisher, and fix his jumpshot,.. those are hard skills to go from poor to great in. It can be done but its harder to see happening than the other 3 being good players IMO because they are closer to being good right now.

But he's not poor at any of those things you named. Lebron had even worse percentages around the rim and for 3 in his rookie season than Ant does now, but everybody could see from a mile away that his finishing and shooting would be much better than that as he acclimates to the nba. It's the same with Ant, his talent, athleticism and skillset simply won't allow him to be a bad shooter or a bad finisher, he just needs a bit more time.

[Klomp]

"Anthony reminds me of a cross between Zion and James Harden. He's not those players yet in every capacity, but can grow into be just as good with that combination of skillsets." -Chris Finch

[Calinks]

I'm not a huge Wiseman guy but I think he's more likely to be a good player than Edwards right now. My faith in Edwards is growing but I still think for him to clean up all of his defensive issues, become a really good finisher, and fix his jumpshot,.. those are hard skills to go from poor to great in. It can be done but its harder to see happening than the other 3 being good players IMO because they are closer to being good right now.

But he's not poor at any of those things you named. Lebron had even worse percentages around the rim and for 3 in his rookie season than Ant does now, but everybody could see from a mile away that his finishing and shooting would be much better than that as he acclimates to the nba. It's the same with Ant, his talent, athleticism and skillset simply won't allow him to be a bad shooter or a bad finisher, he just needs a bit more time.

I disagree with the eye test. Maybe poor is harsh but I'd say he's mediocre to flirting with so-so in most of those areas and he needs to become really good. I know early on too his advanced stats weren't great, a little better than rookie Wiggins but that could have changed by now.

I hope he is great, I hope we finally drafted a wing who become better than okay. I would be ecstatic, I just haven't seen enough consistently to be sold. Call it the Wiggins effect, I just need to see more and see it sustained longer. I certainly feel better about him right now than I did a few weeks ago.

[winforlose]

"Anthony reminds me of a cross between Zion and James Harden. He's not those players yet in every capacity, but can grow into be just as good with that combination of skillsets." -Chris Finch

Or he could be Andrew Wiggins. Only time will tell.

[TheZachAttack]

"Anthony reminds me of a cross between Zion and James Harden. He's not those players yet in every capacity, but can grow into be just as good with that combination of skillsets." -Chris Finch

Or he could be Andrew Wiggins. Only time will tell.

What's the point of this post.

[winforlose]

"Anthony reminds me of a cross between Zion and James Harden. He's not those players yet in every capacity, but can grow into be just as good with that combination of skillsets." -Chris Finch

Or he could be Andrew Wiggins. Only time will tell.

What's the point of this post.

To point out that coaches can talk big about their players but it doesn’t change anything. He will be what he will be.

[m2002brian]

He’s not like anybody else, he’s Anthony Edwards

[Dewey]

I'm not a huge Wiseman guy but I think he's more likely to be a good player than Edwards right now. My faith in Edwards is growing but I still think for him to clean up all of his defensive issues, become a really good finisher, and fix his jumpshot,.. those are hard skills to go from poor to great in. It can be done but its harder to see happening than the other 3 being good players IMO because they are closer to being good right now.

Harden was a horrid defender for years... wiseman looks like a good pass at #1. Ant has some raw game and no reason he will not progresss like any other player if the coach is doing his job.

[shrink]

"As far as I know, they were laser focused [on Wiseman]," replied Brian Windhorst.

"A very good source told me they would have picked James Wiseman No. 1 if they had the pick. He was the highest on their board. They never wavered on that.. If Minnesota would have taken Wiseman one, the Warriors would have taken Anthony Edwards at No. 2.

.. or traded up to get Wiseman?

I’m perfectly happy with Edwards so far, but I have always maintained that MIN should have drafted Wiseman and forced GSW to make a legitimate offer. According to sources, pre-draft Rosas said the GSW offer to swap #1 and #2 wasn’t enough to be worth doing a deal. Of course not. Why would GSW offer much, if they thought Wiseman will fall to them at #2? In effect, they were daring us to draft him. If Rosas had the guts to draft Wiseman, GSW would have offered “something” to move up and go get him (or risk us trading him to CHA, where he was likely #1 on their board too). Wiseman was easily the best fit for that Warriors, and it is not surprising he was #1 on their board.

[Sugarless]

That was Edwards' best game of the season offensively to me. The most balanced and the one where he took less truly bad shots. Still needs to work on his decision making and to really improve his defense, though, cause he's completely lost most of the time out there.

[TheZachAttack]

I think it's interesting to note that Edwards is only 1 month older than Cade Cunningham. It's pretty impressive what Edwards has been able to do, albeit inconsistently, at such a young age. All of the tools are there. I think I stand by the fact that the Wolves, even with Ball's success, made the right choice in trying to Edwards upside.

If Edwards hits he's what wins you playoff games.