"We Tried So Hard, and (Haven't) Got so Far, But in the End, It Doesn't Even Matter" Trade Thread

[Ernest]

I’d bet strongly ainge doesn’t move kemba right now

Yep. Definitely an offseason thing, makes WAY more sense

Again it depends on the deal. If Ainge gets a great offer for Kemba and refuses he should be fired.

"If Ainge... blah blah blah.... he should be fired"

Not singling you out, but you can read some version of this on almost every page of these threads. Come on people thing of something original to say for a change. Like how we should bring back Rondo. This thought brought to you by Goose Island IPA.

[Celts17Pride]

Yep. Definitely an offseason thing, makes WAY more sense

Again it depends on the deal. If Ainge gets a great offer for Kemba and refuses he should be fired.

"If Ainge... blah blah blah.... he should be fired"

Not singling you out, but you can read some version of this on almost every page of these threads. Come on people thing of something original to say for a change. Like how we should bring back Rondo. This thought brought to you by Goose Island IPA.

This is a little different. Kemba Walker is crippling the Celtics with his performance and his contract the next few years. If you have a chance to move him and get back a better situation you do it or you really are not the right person for the job and should move on.

[Feed Your Head]

If we are able to trade Kemba in a non salary dump trade, I’d eat my shoe.

If we are able to trade Kemba in a non salary dump trade, I'll also eat your shoe

How's that gonna work logistically? Are we talking baby bird style? Sharing a la Lady & The Tramp?
Enquiring minds want to know.

I assume it’ll taste a lot like a size 14 eye round steak.

[ddb]

now hearing the John Collins interest from Boston is very real. I asked why when considering that Collins has already turned down so much money....Here's the reasoning I got.

#1- Ainge can keep the large Hayward TPE for offseason which is ideal
#2- Celts feel like if he comes here, does well, and likes it that he would be more receptive to taking a reasonable extension.
#3- They like his game and fit with the J's
#4- If they cannot come to agreement with him beyond this year they can work out a S&T

So basically for Boston this is all going to come down to what Atlanta wants back in return and if it's reasonable.

[yeleven11]

now hearing the John Collins interest from Boston is very real. I asked why when considering that Collins has already turned down so much money....Here's the reasoning I got.

#1- Ainge can keep the large Hayward TPE for offseason which is ideal
#2- Celts feel like if he comes here, does well, and likes it that he would be more receptive to taking a reasonable extension.
#3- They like his game and fit with the J's
#4- If they cannot come to agreement with him beyond this year they can work out a S&T

So basically for Boston this is all going to come down to what Atlanta wants back in return and if it's reasonable.

In the beginning of the offseason, danny said he's looking for a big, who can play both the 4 and the 5 (which is why he went after millsap) so it makes sense.

But the S&T math doesnt work with Kemba on the roster. To execute a sign & trade, they need to stay under the hard cap which is essentially impossible with Kemba on the roster next year.

[Bad-Thoma]

Well another poster used mess and I ran with it. Your points are all valid of course but doesn't it seem like Ainge is scrambling, reacting to the product he built rather than leading, creating a contender. Ainge should admit it and pivot

Fair enough, though he has admitted they aren't title ready as constituted. As for Ainge "scrambling" he, per usual, is linked to pretty much every name out there, whether anything happens now or in the off season he's not sitting on his hands. Fans are desperate for a move and Ainge isn't (rightly so) so he's going to take some criticism but no matter what he does he's taking criticism, this is Boston. I'm just glad a bunch of dumb ass impatient fans aren't in charge, we'd be Billy Kingin this thing to ****.

Witnessing Bill Belichick rain down thunder these last two days will do that. He doesn't mess around.

Gotcha, though two completely different animals GMing the NBA and the NFL.

[zoyathedestroya]

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Sorry guys, you're stuck with him for now.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

now hearing the John Collins interest from Boston is very real. I asked why when considering that Collins has already turned down so much money....Here's the reasoning I got.

#1- Ainge can keep the large Hayward TPE for offseason which is ideal
#2- Celts feel like if he comes here, does well, and likes it that he would be more receptive to taking a reasonable extension.
#3- They like his game and fit with the J's
#4- If they cannot come to agreement with him beyond this year they can work out a S&T

So basically for Boston this is all going to come down to what Atlanta wants back in return and if it's reasonable.

If Smart is going, then I won’t be happy. My silver lining will be the fact that I will be able to buy a Smart jersey on sale.

If I’m the Hawks, I’m asking for Timelord, a pick, and Smart.

[MagicBagley18]

now hearing the John Collins interest from Boston is very real. I asked why when considering that Collins has already turned down so much money....Here's the reasoning I got.

#1- Ainge can keep the large Hayward TPE for offseason which is ideal
#2- Celts feel like if he comes here, does well, and likes it that he would be more receptive to taking a reasonable extension.
#3- They like his game and fit with the J's
#4- If they cannot come to agreement with him beyond this year they can work out a S&T

So basically for Boston this is all going to come down to what Atlanta wants back in return and if it's reasonable.

I’m sure interest is real but we don’t have high level picks, they wanna make the playoffs, and I think they’ll get a better deal elsewhere If they move him at all

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

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Sorry guys, you're stuck with him for now.

Whose idea was it to film radio shows anyways? These dudes are on the radio for a reason. I don’t need to see what these guys look like. Lol

[Bad-Thoma]

If we are able to trade Kemba in a non salary dump trade, I'll also eat your shoe

How's that gonna work logistically? Are we talking baby bird style? Sharing a la Lady & The Tramp?
Enquiring minds want to know.

I assume it’ll taste a lot like a size 14 eye round steak.

[MagicBagley18]

now hearing the John Collins interest from Boston is very real. I asked why when considering that Collins has already turned down so much money....Here's the reasoning I got.

#1- Ainge can keep the large Hayward TPE for offseason which is ideal
#2- Celts feel like if he comes here, does well, and likes it that he would be more receptive to taking a reasonable extension.
#3- They like his game and fit with the J's
#4- If they cannot come to agreement with him beyond this year they can work out a S&T

So basically for Boston this is all going to come down to what Atlanta wants back in return and if it's reasonable.

In the beginning of the offseason, danny said he's looking for a big, who can play both the 4 and the 5 (which is why he went after millsap) so it makes sense.

But the S&T math doesnt work with Kemba on the roster. To execute a sign & trade, they need to stay under the hard cap which is essentially impossible with Kemba on the roster next year.

Ainge also specifically mentioned not going after guys who are entering free agency - singled these guys out. Sure, I don’t believe everything or much ainge says publicly and I’d bet the interest is real but I don’t see it happening

[fallguy]

now hearing the John Collins interest from Boston is very real. I asked why when considering that Collins has already turned down so much money....Here's the reasoning I got.

#1- Ainge can keep the large Hayward TPE for offseason which is ideal
#2- Celts feel like if he comes here, does well, and likes it that he would be more receptive to taking a reasonable extension.
#3- They like his game and fit with the J's
#4- If they cannot come to agreement with him beyond this year they can work out a S&T

So basically for Boston this is all going to come down to what Atlanta wants back in return and if it's reasonable.

If Smart is going, then I won’t be happy. My silver lining will be the fact that I will be able to buy a Smart jersey on sale.

If I’m the Hawks, I’m asking for Timelord, a pick, and Smart.

I think they'd get two of those. Or one plus a couple of the other kids.

Anyway, thanks ddb for the intel!

[yeleven11]

now hearing the John Collins interest from Boston is very real. I asked why when considering that Collins has already turned down so much money....Here's the reasoning I got.

#1- Ainge can keep the large Hayward TPE for offseason which is ideal
#2- Celts feel like if he comes here, does well, and likes it that he would be more receptive to taking a reasonable extension.
#3- They like his game and fit with the J's
#4- If they cannot come to agreement with him beyond this year they can work out a S&T

So basically for Boston this is all going to come down to what Atlanta wants back in return and if it's reasonable.

I’m sure interest is real but we don’t have high level picks, they wanna make the playoffs, and I think they’ll get a better deal elsewhere If they move him at all

Supposedly Minnesota wants him badly. Maybe if Minnesota gets Gordon, there might be an opening for us to get Collins?

[GoCeltics123]

I just see no way we get Collins, we're going to be outbid for him by another team like Minnesota

[fallguy]

now hearing the John Collins interest from Boston is very real. I asked why when considering that Collins has already turned down so much money....Here's the reasoning I got.

#1- Ainge can keep the large Hayward TPE for offseason which is ideal
#2- Celts feel like if he comes here, does well, and likes it that he would be more receptive to taking a reasonable extension.
#3- They like his game and fit with the J's
#4- If they cannot come to agreement with him beyond this year they can work out a S&T

So basically for Boston this is all going to come down to what Atlanta wants back in return and if it's reasonable.

In the beginning of the offseason, danny said he's looking for a big, who can play both the 4 and the 5 (which is why he went after millsap) so it makes sense.

But the S&T math doesnt work with Kemba on the roster. To execute a sign & trade, they need to stay under the hard cap which is essentially impossible with Kemba on the roster next year.

Ainge also specifically mentioned not going after guys who are entering free agency - singled these guys out. Sure, I don’t believe everything or much ainge says publicly and I’d bet the interest is real but I don’t see it happening

They would have more leverage than they did with Hayward/Horford/Kyrie with Collins being an RFA. I think the S&T ddb mentions is the thing that makes this more plausible.

[MagicBagley18]

I just see no way we get Collins, we're going to be outbid for him by another team like Minnesota

It’s the annual pie in the sky name we get every year that has no chance of happening

[fallguy]

Okay you nerds.

Smart or Timelord.

If you could only keep one.

[fallguy]

I just see no way we get Collins, we're going to be outbid for him by another team like Minnesota

It’s the annual pie in the sky name we get every year that has no chance of happening

We could be outbid. But by Minnesota?

[JediMasterRevan]

Okay you nerds.

Smart or Timelord.

If you could only keep one.

Smart