Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread

Fierce1 · Post #1761 » by **Fierce1** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:05 am

wco81 wrote:
Probably, since he'd play fewer minutes, have fewer shot attempts with the Celtics.

But if the Celtics can't get past 76ers or Nets this year, he might have been the missing piece.

What I don't like about about Hayward is he can't play the PF spot.

I believe that in the last 5 minutes of the game, your 5 best players should all be on the court playing.
Celts can't use a lineup of Kemba, Smart, Brown, Tatum, and Hayward because the Celts would be too small.

That's why many Celtic fans believe Harrison Barnes is a good replacement for Hayward.

Barnes is not a better player than Hayward, but Barnes is a legit NBA starter and he can play the PF spot.

At 20m per year, Barnes is a better fit for the Celts.

zoyathedestroya · Post #1762 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:25 pm

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Post #1764 » by **djFan71** » Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:57 am

Does Kemba run enough pick and rolls? I don't know the stats by play type or where to find them. But it seems like we don't utilize that enough. He's, in theory, the one guy who can break down a D off the dribble, so we should utilize that when he's in there.

zoyathedestroya · Post #1765 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:21 am

djFan71 wrote:Does Kemba run enough pick and rolls? I don't know the stats by play type or where to find them. But it seems like we don't utilize that enough. He's, in theory, the one guy who can break down a D off the dribble, so we should utilize that when he's in there.

Per the stats on nba.com, we're running more PnR scoring opportunities for him this season. Frequency has increased from his last season in CHA to last season to this season. More than half of his scoring possessions are via PnR.

Last two seasons, he's been 90+ percentile in PnR. This season, it's 45.6. Yikes.

Post #1766 » by **djFan71** » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:50 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:
djFan71 wrote:Does Kemba run enough pick and rolls? I don't know the stats by play type or where to find them. But it seems like we don't utilize that enough. He's, in theory, the one guy who can break down a D off the dribble, so we should utilize that when he's in there.

Per the stats on nba.com, we're running more PnR scoring opportunities for him this season. Frequency has increased from his last season in CHA to last season to this season. More than half of his scoring possessions are via PnR.

Last two seasons, he's been 90+ percentile in PnR. This season, it's 45.6. Yikes.

Yikes indeed, maybe I'm just seeing the unsuccessfulness of it, not the lack of trying. Just watching Conley & Spider run the simplest plays over and over made me realize we didn't really have anyone beyond Kemba that could do those. Smart is ok. And now, even Kemba can't. Not shocking we're mediocre.

zoyathedestroya · Post #1767 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:55 am

djFan71 wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:
djFan71 wrote:Does Kemba run enough pick and rolls? I don't know the stats by play type or where to find them. But it seems like we don't utilize that enough. He's, in theory, the one guy who can break down a D off the dribble, so we should utilize that when he's in there.

Per the stats on nba.com, we're running more PnR scoring opportunities for him this season. Frequency has increased from his last season in CHA to last season to this season. More than half of his scoring possessions are via PnR.

Last two seasons, he's been 90+ percentile in PnR. This season, it's 45.6. Yikes.

Yikes indeed, maybe I'm just seeing the unsuccessfulness of it, not the lack of trying. Just watching Conley & Spider run the simplest plays over and over made me realize we didn't really have anyone beyond Kemba that could do those. Smart is ok. And now, even Kemba can't. Not shocking we're mediocre.

To be fair to Kemba, he does seem to find Theis on the roll more and Theis is cashing in. Stats above don't cover passing possessions leading to assists via PnR. Only public semi-related data available is that Kemba-Theis is the team's highest assist combo.

Scoonie · Post #1768 » by **Scoonie** » Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:41 pm

I didn't see a 2021 NBA Draft thread, so I'll post here. Isaiah Todd is a 6'10 shooting big who I think would be a great fit for our 1st round draft pick. He played for the elite G League Ignite developmental team this year.

He's a 6'10 shooting big, about 215 lbs, shot 36% from NBA 3-PT and 82% from FT as a 19 year old, and has a lot of offensive upside. He can also run the floor and should be switchable on defense. Think a taller Daniel Theis with more upside.

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zoyathedestroya · Post #1769 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:19 pm

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Post #1770 » by **djFan71** » Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:54 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:

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Post #1771 » by **Parliament10** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:18 am

Celtics, currently in 8th place.

wco81 · Post #1772 » by **wco81** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:23 pm

Simmons was talking about whether the Celtics are the EC most in need of making a big move before the trade deadline.

He said they need a player like Hayward but Hayward didn't want to stay and defer to Tatum or Brown.

He said maybe if they want Beal, trading Brown would get them 90% of the way, probably have to throw in a couple of FRPs.

He wasn't advocating that they make a move necessarily but says the team doesn't have enough good players this year.

Post #1773 » by **Parliament10** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:57 pm

We're in the midst of 8 games, in 12 days.

RB34 · Post #1774 » by **RB34** » Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:05 am

Parliament10 wrote:Celtics, currently in 8th place.

Behind the Knicks, Hornets and Hawks.

Yay

Fencer reregistered · Post #1775 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:51 pm

Is there a legitimate reason to sit Jaylen to rest his knee? Will he wind up needing surgery that should be gotten over with?

Can Time Lord's situaton be helped with surgery, or is this strictly an injury management scenario? If it's the latter ... well, he needs the experience. Kemba and Jayson probably each need to play themselves back into the best versions of themselves more than they need rest.

I can't think of many other guys to sit in a semi-tank year.

Fierce1 · Post #1776 » by **Fierce1** » Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:07 pm

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Triple M · Post #1777 » by **Triple M** » Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:09 pm

I don't know if the numbers exist on this, but I would like to see the percentage of game time we are trailing and our average highest lead in the game. From watching, it feels like we are always trailing, and if we have a lead, it's not more than 5 points. Since mid-January, I can only think of a handful of times where we had a double-digit lead, but it would be nice to see the numbers to back up what I think im seeing.

I can't tell you how many games we are down 1 at half or to start the 4th, but it already feels like a loss. Or we will be down 4-6 and give up an open 3 in the last 5 minutes of the game, sometimes multiple 3s. I also want to see if I could find the numbers on opponents 4th quarter 3s

Fencer reregistered · Post #1778 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:14 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
wco81 wrote:
Probably, since he'd play fewer minutes, have fewer shot attempts with the Celtics.

But if the Celtics can't get past 76ers or Nets this year, he might have been the missing piece.

What I don't like about about Hayward is he can't play the PF spot.

I believe that in the last 5 minutes of the game, your 5 best players should all be on the court playing.
Celts can't use a lineup of Kemba, Smart, Brown, Tatum, and Hayward because the Celts would be too small.

That's why many Celtic fans believe Harrison Barnes is a good replacement for Hayward.

Barnes is not a better player than Hayward, but Barnes is a legit NBA starter and he can play the PF spot.

At 20m per year, Barnes is a better fit for the Celts.

Probably the best team in Celtics history was the one that couldn't play Bird, McHale, Parish and Walton all at once.

Fierce1 · Post #1779 » by **Fierce1** » Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:14 pm

Triple M wrote:I don't know if the numbers exist on this, but I would like to see the percentage of game time we are trailing and our average highest lead in the game. From watching, it feels like we are always trailing, and if we have a lead, it's not more than 5 points. Since mid-January, I can only think of a handful of times where we had a double-digit lead, but it would be nice to see the numbers to back up what I think im seeing.

I can't tell you how many games we are down 1 at half or to start the 4th, but it already feels like a loss. Or we will be down 4-6 and give up an open 3 in the last 5 minutes of the game, sometimes multiple 3s. I also want to see if I could find the numbers on opponents 4th quarter 3s

Yes, you are right.

In their last 4 losses, the Celts always get blown out in the last 5 minutes of the game because of ill-advised shots.
Kemba, Smart, and Theis are all culprits.

zoyathedestroya · Post #1780 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:32 pm

Celtics now have the worst defensive rating, worst net rating, and 3rd worst assist rate in 4th quarters.
Most losses in clutch games. 4th worst offensive rating and 5th worst assist rate in clutch minutes.

Say it with me... This is a main guys and coaching problem, not a role player issue.