Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Joe Johnson workout, pg 97

[EastSideBucksFan]

Hollinger threw out Austin Rivers name as a Bucks target.

Thoughts?

Why is he not playing is my first thought.

Has size, shooting, ball handling.

Not sure where's he's at as a defender, but has to be better than Forbes/DJA.

Obviously would really rather not have to give up a pick, but, whatever.

Bucks need another playoff option that can play both guard spots and he has the potential to score a flurry of points, so probably worth it.

He had a kid.

He hasn't played in month. Has to be more to it.

He's approaching Drew Gooden status in teams played for, and has had attitude issues, might just not be a match for Thibs.

[raferfenix]

Looks like Austin Rivers has a contract that declines per year from its current $3.5 million with next year and the year after non-guaranteed.

If he just isn't any good that's one thing.

But if it's possible he works out in the right environment it'd be nice to know that we can keep him if we want to but don't have to if we don't.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/new-york-knicks/austin-rivers-10818/

[coolhandluke121]

The ratio of single-issue posters is getting too high.

We suck at defense because Bud doesn't make Khoward switch enough. Trade one of the better starting SG's in the league for a SG who actually deserves to start according to my ridiculously arbitrary standards!

[jakecronus8]

This deadline feels like our last chance to get Mo Bamba before he blows up.

[MKE_Beers]

Hollinger threw out Austin Rivers name as a Bucks target.

Thoughts?

Why is he not playing is my first thought.

Has size, shooting, ball handling.

Not sure where's he's at as a defender, but has to be better than Forbes/DJA.

Obviously would really rather not have to give up a pick, but, whatever.

Bucks need another playoff option that can play both guard spots and he has the potential to score a flurry of points, so probably worth it.

DJW and a 2nd for Rivers works. It gives us another playable guard on a team friendly deal the next year or 2 and frees up some room for a buyout guy. This feels like a realistic move we could make that actually makes sense.

[crowhead76]

Not giving up the Delon Wright dream.

[LuessiT]

Hollinger threw out Austin Rivers name as a Bucks target.

Thoughts?

Why is he not playing is my first thought.

Has size, shooting, ball handling.

Not sure where's he's at as a defender, but has to be better than Forbes/DJA.

Obviously would really rather not have to give up a pick, but, whatever.

Bucks need another playoff option that can play both guard spots and he has the potential to score a flurry of points, so probably worth it.

Not sure why he's not playing but he isn't great. I liked what I saw from him in the bubble for Houston and perceived his contract pretty valuable but if that play was a mirage then I doubt he's valuable. He's a tough shot maker that isn't really that good at making shots.

[MKE_Beers]

I've seen his name pop up before but I think bringing in Jeremy Lin could make sense if we don't make a trade or get a buyout guard. Probably won't cost much $$ and his G league stats look good (426% from 3, over 50% total FG, 88% FT, almost 6.5 assists). Feels like it'd be worth a shot.

[coolhandluke121]

I've seen his name pop up before but I think bringing in Jeremy Lin could make sense if we don't make a trade or get a buyout guard. Probably won't cost much $$ and his G league stats look good (426% from 3, over 50% total FG, 88% FT, almost 6.5 assists). Feels like it'd be worth a shot.

Mildly lintrigued.

[StickeeFingaz]

From what I remember, Lin was terrible when the Raptors picked him up a couple of years ago.

[Prez]

The ratio of single-issue posters is getting too high.

We suck at defense because Bud doesn't make Khoward switch enough. Trade one of the better starting SG's in the league for a SG who actually deserves to start according to my ridiculously arbitrary standards!

It’s so painful. The worst was that one dude who literally only posts to rip on Bud posting in a game thread that our issues have nothing to do with personnel, at the same time we had a lineup of Augustin/Forbes/Pat/Brook on court predictably getting merked defensively lol.

The Donte stuff is similarly stupid.

[emunney]

The ratio of single-issue posters is getting too high.

We suck at defense because Bud doesn't make Khoward switch enough. Trade one of the better starting SG's in the league for a SG who actually deserves to start according to my ridiculously arbitrary standards!

It’s so painful. The worst was that one dude who literally only posts to rip on Bud posting in a game thread that our issues have nothing to do with personnel, at the same time we had a lineup of Augustin/Forbes/Pat/Brook on court predictably getting merked defensively lol.

The Donte stuff is similarly stupid.

To be fair, nobody's forcing Bud to play all those guys at the same time. Also everybody is really heated about who to blame for the #10 defense.

[worthlessBucks]

This deadline feels like our last chance to get Mo Bamba before he blows up.

Lot of Texas bigs making their way to the league soon, cheaper acquisition alternative.

Pass on Rivers, other vet frontcourt contributors welcome.

[WeekapaugGroove]

The ratio of single-issue posters is getting too high.

It's almost reached Packers need a middle linebacker level

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[BigO]

How about trading Bud for a future 2nd round pick? Or if there are no buyers, how about trading Bud plus a second rounder for future considerations?

You do realize that if Bud was avaliable, the best organizations would be lining up for him, again.

Really? And you know that how? Do you think Miami, Utah, Toronto, Boston, Golden State, Philly, New Orleans, or even Chicago would be lining up for him? You have no idea what they'd do? But the worst GMs would certainly go after him.

[tydett]

The ratio of single-issue posters is getting too high.

We suck at defense because Bud doesn't make Khoward switch enough. Trade one of the better starting SG's in the league for a SG who actually deserves to start according to my ridiculously arbitrary standards!

It’s so painful. The worst was that one dude who literally only posts to rip on Bud posting in a game thread that our issues have nothing to do with personnel, at the same time we had a lineup of Augustin/Forbes/Pat/Brook on court predictably getting merked defensively lol.

The Donte stuff is similarly stupid.

Hah that guy is my only foe on RealGMl. Not because I have anything against the guy, but because he adds literally nothing to this forum aside from the fact that Mike Budenholzer probably tried to take his wife home or something.

[BigO]

The ratio of single-issue posters is getting too high.

We suck at defense because Bud doesn't make Khoward switch enough. Trade one of the better starting SG's in the league for a SG who actually deserves to start according to my ridiculously arbitrary standards!

It’s so painful. The worst was that one dude who literally only posts to rip on Bud posting in a game thread that our issues have nothing to do with personnel, at the same time we had a lineup of Augustin/Forbes/Pat/Brook on court predictably getting merked defensively lol.

The Donte stuff is similarly stupid.

LOL You actually think the Bucks can beat a healthy Philly or Nets team playing this quality of defense? What most posters don't have a clue about is that in the playoffs the benches are drastically reduced (except for Bud).

So all this wasted space on who our 8 thru 10 bench players are is beyond silly. The Bucks cannot win with this defensive scheme-period. I have the playoffs two years ago and ever since the bubble last year to prove my point. What do you have? The good coaches have figured us out.

We gave up once again over 50% shooting and over 40% on threes yesterday and are 11th on defense in the league, despite having very good to great defensive starters (who play the vast majority of playoff minutes). No matter how good your players are, when the scheme calls for you to let the offensive player open because you drop your center down to cover the paint, you will never win a championship.

So while you guys debate Augustin and Forbes, the real question is whether Bud will change his ways. It's very unlikely. Look for an early exit and Bud getting fired.

[smauss]

Looking at the single issue posters positively, it's good that so many posters only have a single issue with this team. Believe me, many of us know that for soooooo many years, there were soooooo many issues with this team and organization that this single issue problem doesn't seem quite so bad.....

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[raferfenix]

DJW and a 2nd for Rivers works. It gives us another playable guard on a team friendly deal the next year or 2 and frees up some room for a buyout guy. This feels like a realistic move we could make that actually makes sense.

Would we want Austin Rivers to supplement our guard rotation, or to replace DJ Augustin?

Do we think Thibs would like Augustin?

I can't imagine he would be into DJ Wilson, but if he isn't going to play Rivers, they might just take the 2nd.

On the flipside it's not like the Bucks have so many 2nd rounders to throw away if Austin Rivers isn't going to be play for us in the playoffs.

[smauss]

also, in essense the single issue thing is imho, just a difference in priority.

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