Around the NBA, 2020/21 Edition

[BadMofoPimp]

I agree, i think that if Ben Wallace plays in today's nba he would look like Noel and nobody would want to start him.

Thing about modern nba is - nobody plays nor cares ,nor will pay for defense.
Rudy Gobert might be only high payed nba player that earns money on defense only.

You must not have watched Ben Wallace and are only basing that baseless hypothesis purely off stats alone. Ben Wallace was defensive player of the year in the entire NBA 4 Times!!! He was like a cat out there his agility was so abnormal. He could probably do the same in the modern NBA mainly because of his agility alone to stay out of foul trouble while shutting down opponents.

It had value in a league where in nba finals teams would score 75 points.
IT has very little value in league where teams score 140 points in 48 min.

He would just be player less on offense to the point were it would be counterproductive to play him.

You obviously never watched him play and are purely basing off stats.

[pepe1991]

You must not have watched Ben Wallace and are only basing that baseless hypothesis purely off stats alone. Ben Wallace was defensive player of the year in the entire NBA 4 Times!!! He was like a cat out there his agility was so abnormal. He could probably do the same in the modern NBA mainly because of his agility alone to stay out of foul trouble while shutting down opponents.

It had value in a league where in nba finals teams would score 75 points.
IT has very little value in league where teams score 140 points in 48 min.

He would just be player less on offense to the point were it would be counterproductive to play him.

You obviously never watched him play and are purely basing off stats.

Actually, his haydays were times when i was doing nothing but watching everything nba- related, including Detroit who were top tear team.

He was great player in that time period, just like Steve Francis was, that doesn't change fact that he would have no usage in modern basketball today. Look at his architype, 6'8 center, stone hands, poor court vision, one of worst FT shooters in hitory, shot for whole damn career less than 18% from any distance that wasn't dunk distance (> 3 feet ). Those guys simply don't have any value in today's nba. In his era Biyombo would have been almost as good. And we know Biyombo is horrendus player today, but everything else he is his carbon -copy.

Works other way around, MIchael Redd, Stojaković, Lewis, Bibby, Steve Nash Rey Allen in today's era would all probably be +25 ppg scorers for years.
Nash never averaged 20 ppg, in today's era he could roll off bed and put 20 in half time basically every game.

League changed, fans should too.

[Knightro]

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Trade season is here.

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[MartinsIzAfraud]

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OKC going to waive him watch

[purpleswordfish]

It had value in a league where in nba finals teams would score 75 points.
IT has very little value in league where teams score 140 points in 48 min.

He would just be player less on offense to the point were it would be counterproductive to play him.

You obviously never watched him play and are purely basing off stats.

Actually, his haydays were times when i was doing nothing but watching everything nba- related, including Detroit who were top tear team.

He was great player in that time period, just like Steve Francis was, that doesn't change fact that he would have no usage in modern basketball today. Look at his architype, 6'8 center, stone hands, poor court vision, one of worst FT shooters in hitory, shot for whole damn career less than 18% from any distance that wasn't dunk distance (> 3 feet ). Those guys simply don't have any value in today's nba. In his era Biyombo would have been almost as good. And we know Biyombo is horrendus player today, but everything else he is his carbon -copy.

Works other way around, MIchael Redd, Stojaković, Lewis, Bibby, Steve Nash Rey Allen in today's era would all probably be +25 ppg scorers for years.
Nash never averaged 20 ppg, in today's era he could roll off bed and put 20 in half time basically every game.

League changed, fans should too.

I loved watching Ben Wallace play and I certainly watched a lot of him and the Pistons - they were on national TV constantly. Pepe is right, he's a player that really only works in that era of basketball. Go back and watch early to mid-2000s NBA...it's nothing like what we see now. The game was more physical and a lot of offenses worked from the inside-out. Now, it's all about spacing and 3-point shooting (for the most part).

Take Vucevic as an example, he had to add a 3-point shot to his game to stay relevant in today's NBA. I'm not saying I like it, but right now players like Ben Wallace, Tyson Chandler, even Dwight Howard are increasingly irrelevant in the league.

[RookieStar]

Ok I just read those about Ben. Take it for what its worth but I saw Ben play.. A LOT. Especially when his pistons demolished our Magic. Accept it or not, his defense was good BUT if he tries does kinds of things now, they would all be fouls ( well most anyway ) his bumping, grinding and grabbing works then when the early 2000s were physical like the 90s. Now? they would be considered fouls.

[pepe1991]

Ok I just read those about Ben. Take it for what its worth but I saw Ben play.. A LOT. Especially when his pistons demolished our Magic. Accept it or not, his defense was good BUT if he tries does kinds of things now, they would all be fouls ( well most anyway ) his bumping, grinding and grabbing works then when the early 2000s were physical like the 90s. Now? they would be considered fouls.

It's not just Wallace, imagine in today's era if somebody intentionally hurt Durant ,Lebron, Kawhi and Giannis in span of year and half.
Well , that's execlly career of Bruce Bowen. Guy would have been banned from nba for good.

Malce at the palace, where Artest, Stephenson and Jermain O'neal are in bar fight with fans, fans throwing water at benches of a teams, in 2 plays KG throwing shoulder in face of Rip Hamiltion, just to have Rip throwing elbow right in his eye... Yea... 2000s was simply different basketball era



Almost nothing of it would fly today.

[Knightro]

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HOU all in on the tank

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PJ tucker, a 1st, and a 2nd, for 2 "better" 1sts. Insane.

[Knightro]

The trade looks like it's much more than it actually is. It's not much really.

All Milwaukee really did was shift the 1st rounder they owed Houston from 2022 to 2023.

The first round pick for second round pick swap right now is 25 for 33. Not much of anything.

[SOUL]

Also, unsurprisingly, D.J. Augustin is washed.

[RookieStar]

Although it is sad that DJ's best chance for a ring is gone.

[SOUL]

Although it is sad that DJ's best chance for a ring is gone.

He'll probably get bought out or traded again and go to another contender, or at least that's what I'm sure him and his agents are hoping.

[RookieStar]

Although it is sad that DJ's best chance for a ring is gone.

He'll probably get bought out or traded again and go to another contender, or at least that's what I'm sure him and his agents are hoping.

Which contender would want him though?

[drsd]

NBA Seeking $75 Billion Over Nine Years With Next TV Deals

If I understand the CBA correctly, an expected 70B deal would mean that the salary cap would triple from the 2024/25 season to the 2025/26 season. That's crazy!


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[MagicFan101]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/22/nba-is-next-up-for-a-big-rights-increase-and-75-billion-is-the-price.html

The next NBA TV deal for the 2025 season is targeting a $75B price tag.

I think we all remember what happened to the salary cap and spending the last time we had a new TV deal. That agreement was only $24B.

We should all circle the 2025 season and the pending free agent class. We don’t want to end up with another Biz situation.

[The Effect]

So i just read that Lauri Markkanen is on the block. Im admittedly not a big bulls fan or really watched much of them this season (or last season for that matter), but i just remember Lauri looking really good in the games i did watch, why is he on the block?

[thelead]

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/22/nba-is-next-up-for-a-big-rights-increase-and-75-billion-is-the-price.html

The next NBA TV deal for the 2025 season is targeting a $75B price tag.

I think we all remember what happened to the salary cap and spending the last time we had a new TV deal. That agreement was only $24B.

We should all circle the 2025 season and the pending free agent class. We don’t want to end up with another Biz situation.

I don't think they'll get close to that. ESPN was already firing everyone because they were hemorrhaging money. Let that sink in. Disney-backed ESPN was hemorrhaging money.