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Re: GT: Knicks @ Nets - Mon. 3/15/21 - 8PM EST - YES & ESPN 

Post#301 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:28 pm

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It's funny considering it was the exact opposite with Kenny. Never acknowledged end of game errors, bad rotations, called him an elite coach every day :lol:

My thing with Nash is he literally has 3 head coaches on the bench with him + a team full of vets. If he was missing something obvious, clearly someone would let him know. He's a collaborative guy and all the players acknowledge it. Any talk of horrible coaching just makes no sense. Some mistakes are made for sure - but we need to be reasonable at least.

I fundamentally disagree with your conclusion, and I'll tell you why.

It seems you are making a "you would assume" fallacy in logic. Having the most decorated and experienced stable of assistant coaches in league history SHOULD mean that we never miss the details. But think about it: does anyone ever demonstrably question or even advise Nash on the sideline? I haven't seen it. Udoka, Vaughn, and especially D'Antoni know how to make better in-game adjustments than we've seen. They are not, because someone has instructed them not to do so.

No one wants another Frank-Kidd circus, where the assistant is visibly upstaging and sowing dissension. But it is clear to me that Steve would do well to open the door to more live feedback. Use the tools available to you!
Listen to what Joe Harris had to say about Steve Nash on Woj's podcast recently. Joe Harris specifically pointed out that Nash has no ego as a head coach and isn't afraid to delegate more technical aspects of the job to his assistants. I would take what Joe Harris had to say over your observations watching the game. Prokorov is dead wrong on how the Nets players view Nash as well. Kyrie took back his words about Nets not really having a head coach, after playing games under Nash. KD has went out of his way to praise Nash. Joe Harris was raving about Nash on the Woj podcast. All the evidence suggests that the players love him, so I think it's fair to stop with the nonsense about players not respecting a HoFer who has been an excellent leader in the locker room by all accounts.



Remember after the Detroit loss Nash got on DeAndre and later challenged the team in public? We've been elite ever since then. I don't want to hear anything about Nash being to blame for everything and deserves credit for nothing. This is a top 3 team in the sport and we haven't even had our best player for most of the season.
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Re: GT: Knicks @ Nets - Mon. 3/15/21 - 8PM EST - YES & ESPN 

Post#302 » by GTR11 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:06 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:
ecuhus1981 wrote:I fundamentally disagree with your conclusion, and I'll tell you why.

It seems you are making a "you would assume" fallacy in logic. Having the most decorated and experienced stable of assistant coaches in league history SHOULD mean that we never miss the details. But think about it: does anyone ever demonstrably question or even advise Nash on the sideline? I haven't seen it. Udoka, Vaughn, and especially D'Antoni know how to make better in-game adjustments than we've seen. They are not, because someone has instructed them not to do so.

No one wants another Frank-Kidd circus, where the assistant is visibly upstaging and sowing dissension. But it is clear to me that Steve would do well to open the door to more live feedback. Use the tools available to you!
Listen to what Joe Harris had to say about Steve Nash on Woj's podcast recently. Joe Harris specifically pointed out that Nash has no ego as a head coach and isn't afraid to delegate more technical aspects of the job to his assistants. I would take what Joe Harris had to say over your observations watching the game. Prokorov is dead wrong on how the Nets players view Nash as well. Kyrie took back his words about Nets not really having a head coach, after playing games under Nash. KD has went out of his way to praise Nash. Joe Harris was raving about Nash on the Woj podcast. All the evidence suggests that the players love him, so I think it's fair to stop with the nonsense about players not respecting a HoFer who has been an excellent leader in the locker room by all accounts.



Remember after the Detroit loss Nash got on DeAndre and later challenged the team in public? We've been elite ever since then. I don't want to hear anything about Nash being to blame for everything and deserves credit for nothing. This is a top 3 team in the sport and we haven't even had our best player for most of the season.


I didn't even look at their blog because I already know what they going to say. Just look how their talking heads be acting.

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Re: GT: Knicks @ Nets - Mon. 3/15/21 - 8PM EST - YES & ESPN 

Post#303 » by ecuhus1981 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:42 pm

DarkXaero wrote:
ecuhus1981 wrote:
MGrand15 wrote:
It's funny considering it was the exact opposite with Kenny. Never acknowledged end of game errors, bad rotations, called him an elite coach every day :lol:

My thing with Nash is he literally has 3 head coaches on the bench with him + a team full of vets. If he was missing something obvious, clearly someone would let him know. He's a collaborative guy and all the players acknowledge it. Any talk of horrible coaching just makes no sense. Some mistakes are made for sure - but we need to be reasonable at least.

I fundamentally disagree with your conclusion, and I'll tell you why.

It seems you are making a "you would assume" fallacy in logic. Having the most decorated and experienced stable of assistant coaches in league history SHOULD mean that we never miss the details. But think about it: does anyone ever demonstrably question or even advise Nash on the sideline? I haven't seen it. Udoka, Vaughn, and especially D'Antoni know how to make better in-game adjustments than we've seen. They are not, because someone has instructed them not to do so.

No one wants another Frank-Kidd circus, where the assistant is visibly upstaging and sowing dissension. But it is clear to me that Steve would do well to open the door to more live feedback. Use the tools available to you!
Listen to what Joe Harris had to say about Steve Nash on Woj's podcast recently. Joe Harris specifically pointed out that Nash has no ego as a head coach and isn't afraid to delegate more technical aspects of the job to his assistants. I would take what Joe Harris had to say over your observations watching the game. Prokorov is dead wrong on how the Nets players view Nash as well. Kyrie took back his words about Nets not really having a head coach, after playing games under Nash. KD has went out of his way to praise Nash. Joe Harris was raving about Nash on the Woj podcast. All the evidence suggests that the players love him, so I think it's fair to stop with the nonsense about players not respecting a HoFer who has been an excellent leader in the locker room by all accounts.

Straw man argument, neither I nor anyone else is disputing any of your exact points. It's disingenuous to say otherwise.
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