Danny Ainge's AOS (of a season): CLE 117, BOS 110 (20-20)

[Captain_Caveman]

For the ‘we made the ECFs 3 times in 4 years’ crowd: we’ve also had the most disappointing team in the league 2 times in 3 years.

For the "Gordon Hayward isn't worth $15m a year" crowd: LMAO, good call.

[JHTruth]

Anyone just blaming one of Brad/Ainge is being silly. Both have not done a good job, same for the players. Obviously Tatum and Jaylen have done what they can, but they’ve also had their own issues playing within the offense.

It’s an everyone and everything problem, the worst kind.

A large part of this roster is filled with G-Leaguers.

You can’t really blame Stevens or the stars when their supporting cast is scrubs.

Of course guys could do “more” but there’s only so much that can be done when our depth may be worst in the league.

I don’t understand how some still think the main issue is anyone but Ainge

How can anyone think Brad is doing a good job? No one does less with more talent than Brad Stevens

[Feed Your Head]

Anyone just blaming one of Brad/Ainge is being silly. Both have not done a good job, same for the players. Obviously Tatum and Jaylen have done what they can, but they’ve also had their own issues playing within the offense.

It’s an everyone and everything problem, the worst kind.

It's hard to pick one. But when so many issues are popping up, usually the guy to blame first is the man at the top. I think Danny himself admitted it. Question now is, what's he gonna do about it?

We know what he’s not going to do.

Spoiler:

I actually think he does something.

[BigTrade92]

You’re not winning anything when Semi Ojeleye is such a key reserve that he’s been a frequent starter for the entire season.

This is Ainge’s design. He’s sat on his hands for four years ever since the Kyrie disaster.

Enough is enough. It’s clear the man is past his prime. Bring Masai Ujiri over here and let’s get some new blood into this franchise.

Danny has delivered Brad the best young core in the league.

Brad can't coach stars to save his life

It’s too bad he forgot to include the bench.....

[Fencer reregistered]

For the ‘we made the ECFs 3 times in 4 years’ crowd: we’ve also had the most disappointing team in the league 2 times in 3 years.

Yes I am in that crowd.

But I am firmly onboard the “Ainge and Steven’s need to do something now, enough is enough. Or just go.”

So in 5 years, the team did well in 3 and should have done well in the other 2? That's not much of an indictment of Ainge.

Brad, on the other hand ...

[playa-hater]

Keep passing on these mvp caliber guys tho.....these other teams are clueless going after them. Honestly by 2027 we will be right where we want

I wonder if the people who were against Harden are having second thoughts?

Like I said earlier, if they traded for Harden it would have forced Danny’s hand to go win now. But instead he didn’t take the risk, and now very well could just stand pat once again.

They’ll never admit bc half of them are the same people who said he doesn’t pass and his defense hadn’t improved at all. They haven’t watched him. They followed a narrative of him or saw him play 2x a year against us

Well if it's any consolation, I was against it. Not as strong as others. but time tells all. And we definitely should have made it. Can't really argue that now.

[Shak_Celts]

Oh, let me say, I didn't want the Harden trade but I could have easily cheered for him. I am able to want something different than you but also be ready to cheer on any Cs at the same time. Even if I'm wrong, it is what it is, that's probably every other day that doesn't matter to me!

[JHTruth]

There is not a single Cav sniffing the All-Star game this year and they beat us pillar to post tonight. At some point you can only whine so much about "the bench"

[Shak_Celts]

For the ‘we made the ECFs 3 times in 4 years’ crowd: we’ve also had the most disappointing team in the league 2 times in 3 years.

For the "Gordon Hayward isn't worth $15m a year" crowd: LMAO, good call.

this sounds made up. I need receipts. $15m is hella low.

[MagicBagley18]

Oh, let me say, I didn't want the Harden trade but I could have easily cheered for him. I am able to want something different than you but also be ready to cheer on any Cs at the same time. Even if I'm wrong, it is what it is, that's probably every other day that doesn't matter to me!

Yea I mean, I hate lebron, I don’t even like watching harden that much but either come here and I’m rooting my ass for them- I don’t even get this. Unless they’ve committed some heinous crime or something

[BigTrade92]

Anyone just blaming one of Brad/Ainge is being silly. Both have not done a good job, same for the players. Obviously Tatum and Jaylen have done what they can, but they’ve also had their own issues playing within the offense.

It’s an everyone and everything problem, the worst kind.

A large part of this roster is filled with G-Leaguers.

You can’t really blame Stevens or the stars when their supporting cast is scrubs.

Of course guys could do “more” but there’s only so much that can be done when our depth may be worst in the league.

I don’t understand how some still think the main issue is anyone but Ainge

How can anyone think Brad is doing a good job? No one does less with more talent than Brad Stevens

Likewise, no one has done more with less talent than Brad Stevens.

He turned Jordan Crawford into a first round pick and had teams led by Isaiah Thomas and rookies in the Eastern Conference Finals.

The chef can only cook with the ingredients he’s given...and the ingredients for this roster taste like sh*t

[Captain_Caveman]

Keep passing on these mvp caliber guys tho.....these other teams are clueless going after them. Honestly by 2027 we will be right where we want

I wonder if the people who were against Harden are having second thoughts?

Like I said earlier, if they traded for Harden it would have forced Danny’s hand to go win now. But instead he didn’t take the risk, and now very well could just stand pat once again.

Same opinion then as now. Trading Jaylen/Smart/picks/prospects for Harden was a win-now move that wouldn't have won us a title.

So what's the point?

[Celts17Pride]

Anyone just blaming one of Brad/Ainge is being silly. Both have not done a good job, same for the players. Obviously Tatum and Jaylen have done what they can, but they’ve also had their own issues playing within the offense.

It’s an everyone and everything problem, the worst kind.

A large part of this roster is filled with G-Leaguers.

You can’t really blame Stevens or the stars when their supporting cast is scrubs.

Of course guys could do “more” but there’s only so much that can be done when our depth may be worst in the league.

I don’t understand how some still think the main issue is anyone but Ainge

How can anyone think Brad is doing a good job? No one does less with more talent than Brad Stevens

Would love to see where all this talent is that you speak of on the Celtics. Tatum and Brown big deal. Portland has had Dame and McCollum for years and never go anywhere. It takes more than 2 players

[Shak_Celts]

There is not a single Cav sniffing the All-Star game this year and they beat us pillar to post tonight. At some point you can only whine so much about "the bench"

Though there are probably 6 of them 10xs as close as any of our bench guys (aside from rob). I do get your point though.

[Ill News]

Read on Twitter

Right now, our identity is that we are the worst 4th-quarter team in the league. They've been in the most clutch situations and only won a few of them. Ultimately, they're the ultimate tease, fooling us into thinking they're good enough, only to crap all over the bed.

[JHTruth]

Harden is a moot point and was always a moot point. Harden to the Celtics was like AD to the Celtics, nothing more than message board mastro. Why do you think the Nets hired Nash? The die was cast on the offseason. Harden was always planning on the Nets. That's why he gained 300 lbs in Houston. He knew he was going to the Nets. Boston was never in the running.

[MagicBagley18]

Keep passing on these mvp caliber guys tho.....these other teams are clueless going after them. Honestly by 2027 we will be right where we want

I wonder if the people who were against Harden are having second thoughts?

Like I said earlier, if they traded for Harden it would have forced Danny’s hand to go win now. But instead he didn’t take the risk, and now very well could just stand pat once again.

Same opinion then as now. Trading Jaylen/Smart/picks/prospects for Harden was a win-now move that wouldn't have won us a title.

So what's the point?

I’m not sure it would have cost us smart if Jaylens on the table but even so- I know it would have made us a better team and made ainge pivot towards going in and kind of mandating a real direction and I also know having an mvp player is basically the baseline for any title in the modern nba.

Having a harden gives you a legitimate shot even if it doesn’t make you a favorite you have a chance. It also doesn’t let a team in your conference get him and basically make anything we do for 2 years completely irrelevant which many (not you) talk about keeping Jaylen and Tatum here. Well 75% of Jaylens contract we just parked ourself into irrelevance

[Feed Your Head]

Keep passing on these mvp caliber guys tho.....these other teams are clueless going after them. Honestly by 2027 we will be right where we want

I wonder if the people who were against Harden are having second thoughts?

Like I said earlier, if they traded for Harden it would have forced Danny’s hand to go win now. But instead he didn’t take the risk, and now very well could just stand pat once again.

Same opinion then as now. Trading Jaylen/Smart/picks/prospects for Harden was a win-now move that wouldn't have won us a title.

So what's the point?

Just wondering if anyone has changed their thoughts. Also, considering what the Nets gave up, I think the package you mentioned earlier in the year would have done it. Jaylen/Pritchard/Theis/picks, I think I remember you saying we’d be lucky if the Rockets accepted it, but that anyone who wasn’t willing had low T lol.

I only remember because it was such an awesome post.

[JHTruth]

I wonder if the people who were against Harden are having second thoughts?

Like I said earlier, if they traded for Harden it would have forced Danny’s hand to go win now. But instead he didn’t take the risk, and now very well could just stand pat once again.

Same opinion then as now. Trading Jaylen/Smart/picks/prospects for Harden was a win-now move that wouldn't have won us a title.

So what's the point?

Just wondering if anyone has changed their thought, considering what the Nets gave up, I think the package you mentioned earlier in the year would have done it. Jaylen/Pritchard/Theis/picks, I think I remember you saying we’d be lucky if the Rockets accepted it, but that anyone who wasn’t willing had low T lol.

I only remember because it was such an awesome post.

Celtics were never in the running. The Nets hired Nash because they knew he would do a masterful job with Harden.

[easyrider]

To be honest, I don’t really understand how these +/- ratings work. How can Rob Williams have -

14 rebounds
3 assists
2 steals
4 blocks
13 points

In 27 minutes and have a -13 rating?? Is it the 1 turnover and 4 fouls that give him a minus rating?