Danny Ainge's AOS (of a season): CLE 117, BOS 110 (20-20)

[playa-hater]

I appreciate everything Brad has done since he's been here, but I think his tenure has just ran its course. It's time for new blood, it's time for a new voice in the locker room. We need someone to come in and change the culture. Right now watching this team, it just feels like there's no structure, there's no accountability, there's no pride. We need that hiring like we've seen recently with Thibs, Monty Williams, or Juwan Howard.

I don't know if Brad has mentally checked out or if the players are just tuning him out at this point or what, but I feel like anyone who's watched this team closely his entire run can say that things seem different now. A few years ago, if nothing else we knew the Celtics were going to play hard from start to finish. Can't say that now.

As for Ainge, I could write a War and Peace length novel about the issues I've had with his decision making over the years. It used to be an unpopular opinion in these woods but the narrative finally seems to be shifting.

+1 everything about Brad here.
Doc had the stones to butt heads with young Paul Pierce and get him to play the right way. Stop playing 'hero ball' and no 'dancing with' the ball. I wasn't sure it was the right tack or if it was going to work, but turns out it was and it did.

Can any of us imagine that JT and/or JB think Brad has *anything* to offer them at this point? Beyond probably being an easy guy to get along with? Can any of us imagine Brad challenging JT and/or JB to get better in any significant way?

We can blow up the roster -- if Danny has the mental acuity and energy levels for it -- or fake injuries and tank (getting appealing!) -- or do what most teams do and change the coach. I know Brad is the anointed one and seems to have a lifetime appointment, but if this **** continues I hope that's the first domino to fall. And USE THE DAMN TPE or at least a good chunk of it to get another starter because starting Semi is insulting to this great franchise's history.

also an excellent post. Especially the part about Brad and the Js

[Celts17Pride]

Celtics have lost 6 straight games when both Tatum and Brown score 25+ points in a game.

More talent is needed

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Tatum 29 on 24 shots
Jaylen 28 on 26 shots
20-29 from the FT line.
Smart 2 assists and 4 turnovers.

Not going to beat even garbage teams when the above is happening.

Rob was awesome though, yay.

Lovely, we have two miniature Carmelo Anthony's

[batabatuta]

My biggest disappointment with this team is after games like this one no player gets angry. Tatum doesn’t, Brown doesn’t, Kemba doesn’t. It like par for the course. It’s acceptable

They won't coz' they probably already dead set on leaving as soon as it becomes possible for them to leave.

[smith2373]

I appreciate everything Brad has done since he's been here, but I think his tenure has just ran its course. It's time for new blood, it's time for a new voice in the locker room. We need someone to come in and change the culture. Right now watching this team, it just feels like there's no structure, there's no accountability, there's no pride. We need that hiring like we've seen recently with Thibs, Monty Williams, or Juwan Howard.

I don't know if Brad has mentally checked out or if the players are just tuning him out at this point or what, but I feel like anyone who's watched this team closely his entire run can say that things seem different now. A few years ago, if nothing else we knew the Celtics were going to play hard from start to finish. Can't say that now.

As for Ainge, I could write a War and Peace length novel about the issues I've had with his decision making over the years. It used to be an unpopular opinion in these woods but the narrative finally seems to be shifting.

+1 everything about Brad here.
Doc had the stones to butt heads with young Paul Pierce and get him to play the right way. Stop playing 'hero ball' and no 'dancing with' the ball. I wasn't sure it was the right tack or if it was going to work, but turns out it was and it did.

Can any of us imagine that JT and/or JB think Brad has *anything* to offer them at this point? Beyond probably being an easy guy to get along with? Can any of us imagine Brad challenging JT and/or JB to get better in any significant way?

We can blow up the roster -- if Danny has the mental acuity and energy levels for it -- or fake injuries and tank (getting appealing!) -- or do what most teams do and change the coach. I know Brad is the anointed one and seems to have a lifetime appointment, but if this **** continues I hope that's the first domino to fall. And USE THE DAMN TPE or at least a good chunk of it to get another starter because starting Semi is insulting to this great franchise's history.

I mean, if the rest of the season goes the way it has so far, it's inevitable that someone will be the scapegoat. It almost always ends up that way.

Whether that means the GM goes, coach goes, or one of the top players.

You look at Philly last year, they had an extremely disappointing season and what happens? They fired the coach and got rid of their prized FA signing that ended up being a bust and used that cap space to bring in role players whose skillsets complemented their star players. And now they go from being a 6th seed, 1st round exit to being the 1 seed.

[Jammer]

My biggest disappointment with this team is after games like this one no player gets angry. Tatum doesn’t, Brown doesn’t, Kemba doesn’t. It like par for the course. It’s acceptable

The players realize Brad is not an NBA coach and Ainge has wasted Tatum & Brown's future with poor decisions ( like not bringing in proven talent in exchange for the 2019 #14 and 22 picks, and the 2020 #14 pick).

[Green89]

I wasn't here during the 90s or mid-2000s so this is all new to me. How bad is it right now?

This is a walk in the park.
Maybe a boring walk in the park, and raining when you expected it to be sunny, but still we'd need to lose to the Cavs every night for 5 years to reach the 90s/mid2000s levels.

Bigger disappointment now though, as those teams had no expectations.

[JHTruth]

My biggest disappointment with this team is after games like this one no player gets angry. Tatum doesn’t, Brown doesn’t, Kemba doesn’t. It like par for the course. It’s acceptable

The players realize Brad is not an NBA coach and Ainge has wasted Tatum & Brown's future with poor decisions ( like not bringing in proven talent in exchange for the 2019 #14 and 22 picks, and the 2020 #14 pick).

Tatum and Brown are 23 and 24 and just signed extensions. There's no reason to panic yet. Still plenty of time to make moves and get this franchise back on track. They have the foundation.

But Brad may be a casualty. It is what it is

[GoCeltics123]

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Sureeeeee Jayson. Very little of this is your fault, but we heard this just two years ago and look what happened....

[BostonCouchGM]

I appreciate everything Brad has done since he's been here, but I think his tenure has just ran its course. It's time for new blood, it's time for a new voice in the locker room. We need someone to come in and change the culture. Right now watching this team, it just feels like there's no structure, there's no accountability, there's no pride. We need that hiring like we've seen recently with Thibs, Monty Williams, or Juwan Howard.

I don't know if Brad has mentally checked out or if the players are just tuning him out at this point or what, but I feel like anyone who's watched this team closely his entire run can say that things seem different now. A few years ago, if nothing else we knew the Celtics were going to play hard from start to finish. Can't say that now.

As for Ainge, I could write a War and Peace length novel about the issues I've had with his decision making over the years. It used to be an unpopular opinion in these woods but the narrative finally seems to be shifting.

like I've been saying for years, Danny is a system coach and no matter who he puts on the floor, he runs the same system. It's actually a really good system which is why when. he had guys that were really good fits we were able to get deep into the playoffs. Unfortunately, IT was a massive defensive liability and the Jays were young those years. If you took the Jays of today and put them back on those teams we get to the Finals. We had a PG who could penetrate and dish, run the PnR with bigs who could pick and pop and shooters around him. Now we have better Jays, the PG in Pritchard though Brad won't start him, but not the shooters. Since this is the case, the system needs to change to reflect this but Brad is incapable. But Brad isn't solely to blame.

Danny had a disastrous 2019 draft and traded the #30 pick in 2020 while great talents were still on the board. He also signed Kemba to a terrible contract and lost vets for next to nothing. When you combine that with Brad running a system that doesn't fit the personnel, you end up with a .500 team. The body language from the Jays is sometimes poor and this is despite both of them being very hard workers and good kids. They have to be extremely frustrated. It's almost a certainty that one or both will get fed up should we fail to get to at least the ECF and start making noise on the down low about wanting out.

There is some good news though. We DO have shooters in Pritchard and Nesmith and as soon as they're inserted into the starting lineup and Kemba and Smart are on the bench strengthening that unit, we'll be fine. Brad just needs to realize this. Also, there isn't a single team in the East that doesn't have issues. We are still capable of beating any of them in a series.

[tfribs45]

At what point do you stop babying Kemba and play in back to backs? Shorten the rotation Brad and play to win! We’re not deep like the Spurs we’re in the past... it’s time for a change, this team needs a wake up call! Brad or Danny can go if this roster stays put . Terrible effort all around and you can’t tell me that these players are going to battle for their coach! Forget about it!

[smith2373]

I appreciate everything Brad has done since he's been here, but I think his tenure has just ran its course. It's time for new blood, it's time for a new voice in the locker room. We need someone to come in and change the culture. Right now watching this team, it just feels like there's no structure, there's no accountability, there's no pride. We need that hiring like we've seen recently with Thibs, Monty Williams, or Juwan Howard.

I don't know if Brad has mentally checked out or if the players are just tuning him out at this point or what, but I feel like anyone who's watched this team closely his entire run can say that things seem different now. A few years ago, if nothing else we knew the Celtics were going to play hard from start to finish. Can't say that now.

As for Ainge, I could write a War and Peace length novel about the issues I've had with his decision making over the years. It used to be an unpopular opinion in these woods but the narrative finally seems to be shifting.

like I've been saying for years, Danny is a system coach and no matter who he puts on the floor, he runs the same system. It's actually a really good system which is why when. he had guys that were really good fits we were able to get deep into the playoffs. Unfortunately, IT was a massive defensive liability and the Jays were young those years. If you took the Jays of today and put them back on those teams we get to the Finals. We had a PG who could penetrate and dish, run the PnR with bigs who could pick and pop and shooters around him. Now we have better Jays, the PG in Pritchard though Brad won't start him, but not the shooters. Since this is the case, the system needs to change to reflect this but Brad is incapable. But Brad isn't solely to blame.

Danny had a disastrous 2019 draft and traded the #30 pick in 2020 while great talents were still on the board. He also signed Kemba to a terrible contract and lost vets for next to nothing. When you combine that with Brad running a system that doesn't fit the personnel, you end up with a .500 team. The body language from the Jays is sometimes poor and this is despite both of them being very hard workers and good kids. They have to be extremely frustrated. It's almost a certainty that one or both will get fed up should we fail to get to at least the ECF and start making noise on the down low about wanting out.

There is some good news though. We DO have shooters in Pritchard and Nesmith and as soon as they're inserted into the starting lineup and Kemba and Smart are on the bench strengthening that unit, we'll be fine. Brad just needs to realize this. Also, there isn't a single team in the East that doesn't have issues. We are still capable of beating any of them in a series.

I mean sure, if everything clicks at the right time is this team capable of beating a Milwaukee or Philly in a 7 game? Sure.

But based on everything we've seen this season, how likely do we really think that is?

[Feed Your Head]

Tatum 29 on 24 shots
Jaylen 28 on 26 shots
20-29 from the FT line.
Smart 2 assists and 4 turnovers.

Not going to beat even garbage teams when the above is happening.

Rob was awesome though, yay.

Lovely, we have two miniature Carmelo Anthony's

Eh, Tatum will be 23 most of next season, Jaylen will be 25 all of next season.

One point I’ve hammered on since the off-season is that it takes a LONG time to win a title as the guy. In almost everyone in the modern nba’s case, they were 26 or older. I know it gets frustrating watching Tatum settle, or Jaylen show such little basketball iq, but they are far from finished products. Tatum is probably going to be a perennial all nba candidate, and Jaylen looks like a safe bet to be a guy who makes a lot of all star teams.

Yeah they need to make guys around them better, but that takes time. My concern is that Tatum may be more of a championship 1B or 2, and Jaylen may be closer to a 3 than a 2. If that’s the case, we are ****** regardless, but they deserve a better roster around them, and time lol.

[moonie_mcgee]

This team is lost, time to accept it.

[GoCeltics123]

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Poor Jayson. He looks absolutely defeated

[Saint Lazarus]

I seriously am on the fence between rooting for the Celtics to win or lose. Celtics are not doing anything this year if they make the playoffs.

Maybe a lottery pick and a lottery chance for a Top 4 pick is the best thing for this team.

Not saying they should tank just saying losing might not be the worst thing

Honestly wonder if we'll get lucky like the Lakers got "lucky" when they missed the playoffs in Lebron's first year and secured the Davis trade by winning the 4th pick.

[Feed Your Head]

I seriously am on the fence between rooting for the Celtics to win or lose. Celtics are not doing anything this year if they make the playoffs.

Maybe a lottery pick and a lottery chance for a Top 4 pick is the best thing for this team.

Not saying they should tank just saying losing might not be the worst thing

Honestly wonder if we'll get lucky like the Lakers got "lucky" when they missed the playoffs in Lebron's first year and secured the Davis trade by winning the 4th pick.

This franchise, get lucky?

[Ill News]

Read on Twitter

Poor Jayson. He looks absolutely defeated

Was gonna post this too, beat me to it.

Tatum just looks down and out. He needs to be more vocal out there, but I don't think that's his style the same way Brad is a robot most of the time.

My only hope for this season is that it affects the team's core (Tatum, Brown, Smart) so much that they take a long hard look in the mirror, and uses it as motivation for next season. Who knows, maybe they'll rediscover their chemistry and swag, and Brad will become a coaching genius once again next year. Right now, this season is lost, nothing is saving this team other than themselves, and it sure looks like they're not interested in doing that.

[Grooverider]

Tatum 29 on 24 shots
Jaylen 28 on 26 shots
20-29 from the FT line.
Smart 2 assists and 4 turnovers.

Not going to beat even garbage teams when the above is happening.

Rob was awesome though, yay.

Lovely, we have two miniature Carmelo Anthony's

Lmfao if things couldn't get worse than the last year with Kyrie here we are. This team is borderline unwatchable.

[Ill News]

Read on Twitter

Sureeeeee Jayson. Very little of this is your fault, but we heard this just two years ago and look what happened....

We've been hearing them say the same thing after every loss, actually. It's honestly touching that they still believe in each other (though they're probably lying to themselves), but the results speak for themselves. They are no closer to figuring it out as when they started the season.