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Basileus777 wrote:I'm officially worried that Brown being a useful offensive player for that stretch was just a fluke. Guy has been trash at finishing lately and if he can't do that he's not going to be playable in the postseason.
Prokorov wrote:
3) Can marks just cut TLC? 9 times out of 10 nothing good is happening when he touches the ball. I'd prefer if Nash didnt even have the option to put him in the game. a -17 in 7 minutes is hard to achieve
Prokorov wrote:
Great game.... didnt get to watch it live so just finished. my thoughts:
1) Harden is the best floor raiser in the league. not Lebron, not KD. He grinds you out. 40 minutes and controls the game every second he is in. If he is guarding a big, you can argue he is near All-NBA defense. guys dont back him down, dont score on him and he grabs boards and goes the other way with it.
2) Last week i admitted i was wrong with claxton for saying he wasnt good enough to be a rotation player on a contender. But i also said that i didnt think he was a 5 on defense. I'm wrong there as well. he can handle it... and not just in a "small ball" way like Jeff green does. he still has a way to go as a 5 on D, but he can be a legit 5 on both ends.
3) Can marks just cut TLC? 9 times out of 10 nothing good is happening when he touches the ball. I'd prefer if Nash didnt even have the option to put him in the game. a -17 in 7 minutes is hard to achieve
4) Suprised reading the comments here because i thought DJ played well. Nash had him out there for a 12 minute stretch/the entire first. I dont think you can do that with him at this point in his career. first 8-9 minutes of the 4th he was good on both ends. he is a plus within the minutes he can handle stamina wise. with Claxton/green/Brown no reason he needs to go a full quarter. especially if we are watching the go on a run.
5) Brown stuggled to make those floaters, which is fine. but something both green and brown did all night was be overly aggressive with those shots, which isnt terrible but they could have passed those good shots up for great ones as harris/shamet/TJ where often left wide open from three after that hard double on harden and FT line pass to green/Brown. gotta make those passes and make them pay with threes
6) Tyler Johnson gave us excellent minutes. he has quietly been a big part of this 14-1 streak. solid 2-way play.
Whiskey Slick wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:While I think we could eventually see Claxton start, I would rather err on the side of caution and let him continue to work himself up coming off the bench. He's going to be a solid player but he's still young and needs to get stronger (see the Knicks game where Julius Randle nearly broke his rib cage). He's doing fine just where he is right now.
Bigs who play bully-ball effectively, like Randle, are going to give Claxton trouble RIGHT NOW. But in two years, when his body matures and he works out to get thicker and stronger, they won't give him trouble anymore.
Some people have short memories, but I remember how Jarrett Allen was an easy mark for bigs who play bully-ball two years ago. I can't emphasize enough that it's not about age. Claxton was drafted two years after Allen, spent some time in the G-league, and spent the last year and a half rehabbing and recovering from a torn labrum. He's basically just getting his NBA career started now, with about a dozen games under his belt off the bench. A complete basketball neophyte, yet he still looks this good.
Basileus777 wrote:I'm officially worried that Brown being a useful offensive player for that stretch was just a fluke. Guy has been trash at finishing lately and if he can't do that he's not going to be playable in the postseason.
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Beautiful win. Harden had an all time performance.
Also kudos to Nash! His adjustment were awesome. I was super critical of him earlier this season but he has turned the corner. I'm all in now.
Whiskey Slick wrote:Prokorov wrote:
3) Can marks just cut TLC? 9 times out of 10 nothing good is happening when he touches the ball. I'd prefer if Nash didnt even have the option to put him in the game. a -17 in 7 minutes is hard to achieve
He's also a selfish player. If you give him the ball, chances are nobody else is seeing it again.
He thinks he's Steph Curry from 3.
MrDollarBills wrote:Basileus777 wrote:I'm officially worried that Brown being a useful offensive player for that stretch was just a fluke. Guy has been trash at finishing lately and if he can't do that he's not going to be playable in the postseason.
Brown struggled last night but he was pretty disruptive defensively. I wouldn't give up on him yet.
He was finishing at an incredibly high (flukey) level before, and he's starting to come back down to earth now. However, if there is one disagreement I have with Nash, it's playing Brown with DJ. Teams have adjusted to it past few games, and it's just not working out anymore. We should either play Brown in small ball lineups (with a stretch 5) or maybe the lineups with Claxton might work better. But he's not going to work with DJ anymore.Basileus777 wrote:I'm officially worried that Brown being a useful offensive player for that stretch was just a fluke. Guy has been trash at finishing lately and if he can't do that he's not going to be playable in the postseason.
Whiskey Slick wrote:Prokorov wrote:
3) Can marks just cut TLC? 9 times out of 10 nothing good is happening when he touches the ball. I'd prefer if Nash didnt even have the option to put him in the game. a -17 in 7 minutes is hard to achieve
He's also a selfish player. If you give him the ball, chances are nobody else is seeing it again.
He thinks he's Steph Curry from 3.
DarkXaero wrote:DJ played all 12 mins of the first quarter because Sabonis played the entire first quarter. Nash was trying to match up DJ with Sabonis, given how well DJ played in the previous game against Sabonis. DJ played 30+ mins against Pacers in that previous game against them, as he was dominant defensively. Nash was hoping for a similar impact again but didn't get it, and adjusted accordingly for rest of the game. So if it wasn't a problem playing DJ many mins before (when he played well), it became a problem now? It's always something
Prokorov wrote:Whiskey Slick wrote:Prokorov wrote:
3) Can marks just cut TLC? 9 times out of 10 nothing good is happening when he touches the ball. I'd prefer if Nash didnt even have the option to put him in the game. a -17 in 7 minutes is hard to achieve
He's also a selfish player. If you give him the ball, chances are nobody else is seeing it again.
He thinks he's Steph Curry from 3.
id be fine if he just chucked from 3. its his only excuse to be on the floor.
the second he takes a dribble something bad will happen
Sabonis is 8 years younger, but that doesn't matter. Jeff Green is 2 years older than DJ and is able to play entire quarters, despite consistently guarding bigger players. It was the first quarter of the game, not the 3rd or 4th. If DJ can't handle playing the first 12 mins of a game, then I don't know what that says about him. And we did adjust after that, that is the point lol. DJ only played 8 more mins for the rest of the game after that (and remained crap).Prokorov wrote:DarkXaero wrote:DJ played all 12 mins of the first quarter because Sabonis played the entire first quarter. Nash was trying to match up DJ with Sabonis, given how well DJ played in the previous game against Sabonis. DJ played 30+ mins against Pacers in that previous game against them, as he was dominant defensively. Nash was hoping for a similar impact again but didn't get it, and adjusted accordingly for rest of the game. So if it wasn't a problem playing DJ many mins before (when he played well), it became a problem now? It's always something
I mean, Sabonis is like 10 years younger right?
It is also alot easier to play DJ extended minutes when Kyrie is playing and your up by 30+. and even then, the pacers gashed us to make it less of a laugher later in the game i believe.
Also, this isnt some static formula. If a dude who we know is probably best served in 20-25 minutes a game looks cooked and the other team goes on a huge run.... maybe you pull him. if your up 30, maybe you can extend him a bit.
It is also worth noting in the first matchup Claxton was still hurt and that option wasnt there.
Further, after the pistons game you had the heated exchange between nash and DJ. so that was kind of a redeption put up or show up kinda thing.
MrDollarBills wrote:Prokorov wrote:Whiskey Slick wrote:He's also a selfish player. If you give him the ball, chances are nobody else is seeing it again.
He thinks he's Steph Curry from 3.
id be fine if he just chucked from 3. its his only excuse to be on the floor.
the second he takes a dribble something bad will happen
TLC at best should be a 3rd string wing that plays when someone is out. We really need imo one more wing player to be added.
