Question for the forum: Long-term, Claxton or Allen?

[Prokorov]

Two of my favorite players during the last few years... very tough to say though.

As of today I think the Fro is more proven + only 1 year older than Clax + much more durable.

In terms of skills I feel that prime Claxton will be better offensively than the Fro and slightly worse defensively not by much though.

I envision bright futures for both although their games are different.

Claxton reminds me Bosh/Giannis/KG type(PF) while the fro is more of a pure C(Gobert/Capella/Tyson Chandler) type.

Not saying they will reach that level of greatness, just saying that's what their game reminds me of.

I like the Bosh for claxton and Chandler for allen skillset comparisons. I think Allen will get alot closer to chandler then claxton will be to bosh. I dont see him every being the defender or rebounder that bosh was. maybe the perimeter defender bosh was, certainly not the rim protector.

I sitll tihnk long term claxton will be closer to kurucs then allen as far as positionally what he becomes. I dont see him as a center. Allen to me is a center.

[Whiskey Slick]

This kid has played about a dozen NBA Games and is barely scratching the surface of his peak.

But I'm glad there are way more votes for Allen. I like being in the minority ... and being right.

Two years from now this same poll with be 100% to nothing for Claxton.

[LOUiS-D]

I love Jarrett. He's a high IQ, plays within himself. Conservative and fearless at the same time. I just don't know how he expands his offensive game. He is stone handed. I don't know whether it's confidence or he's overthinking. In 3 years of watching him I was impressed to see him take a dribble before making a shot attempt.

Nic has it. He's waiting to show more. What I didn't know was his awareness and activity on defense. Long term I think Nic has the higher upside.

[Prokorov]

I love Jarrett. He's a high IQ, plays within himself. Conservative and fearless at the same time. I just don't know how he expands his offensive game. He is stone handed. I don't know whether it's confidence or he's overthinking. In 3 years of watching him I was impressed to see him take a dribble before making a shot attempt.

Nic has it. He's waiting to show more. What I didn't know was his awareness and activity on defense. Long term I think Nic has the higher upside.

I dont think he needs to expand it. i mean he is/recently was leading the NBA in FG%. he is arguably the best screener in the NBA and an elite roll man and finsiher. And he earns his paychecks on defense to boot.

[Whiskey Slick]

I love Jarrett. He's a high IQ, plays within himself. Conservative and fearless at the same time. I just don't know how he expands his offensive game. He is stone handed. I don't know whether it's confidence or he's overthinking. In 3 years of watching him I was impressed to see him take a dribble before making a shot attempt.

Nic has it. He's waiting to show more. What I didn't know was his awareness and activity on defense. Long term I think Nic has the higher upside.

I dont think he needs to expand it. i mean he is/recently was leading the NBA in FG%. he is arguably the best screener in the NBA and an elite roll man and finsiher. And he earns his paychecks on defense to boot.

I don't see him much as I used to, but in fairness he has to be doing damn well to have taken Drummond's job.

[sashaturiaf]

Completely different players but Claxton fits the current team better since what Jarrett brings is too similar to what DJ brings albeit Jarrett does it at a higher level.

There's certain matchups in the playoffs where you just can't play a traditional big major minutes, Claxton I feel can play against any lineup and not be a liability. That versatility is going to be huge, stay healthy young fella.

[LOUiS-D]

I dont think he needs to expand it. i mean he is/recently was leading the NBA in FG%. he is arguably the best screener in the NBA and an elite roll man and finsiher. And he earns his paychecks on defense to boot.

Pick and roll is his bread and butter. The thing that worries me the most is his hands and the amount of fumbles he makes. I don't trust his ball security. Same thing making passes, fighting for loose balls or handling doubles. It's like he has pinball flippers for hands. He plays great offensively within those limitations and he creates offensive motion with his activity. He also has some really nice footwork and a soft touch around the rim.

Basically I'm lavishing praise on him, but if he had just this one thing of being able to hold the ball, take a dribble, reliably make simple passes under pressure then a LOT more would open up offensively for his team. As it is it kind of feels like he has to be in the perfect position for a play not to get busted up.

[LOUiS-D]

I don't see him much as I used to, but in fairness he has to be doing damn well to have taken Drummond's job.

drummond might have been giving it away for free https://streamable.com/gaj2eb

[Whiskey Slick]

Completely different players but Claxton fits the current team better since what Jarrett brings is too similar to what DJ brings albeit Jarrett does it at a higher level.

There's certain matchups in the playoffs where you just can't play a traditional big major minutes, Claxton I feel can play against any lineup and not be a liability. That versatility is going to be huge, stay healthy young fella.

Excellent observation.

[Prokorov]

Completely different players but Claxton fits the current team better since what Jarrett brings is too similar to what DJ brings albeit Jarrett does it at a higher level.

There's certain matchups in the playoffs where you just can't play a traditional big major minutes, Claxton I feel can play against any lineup and not be a liability. That versatility is going to be huge, stay healthy young fella.

I agree. I think you add McGee to them and you have a nice 5 Man center depth chart:

DJ - Lobs/rim protection
Claxton - Versatile offense/lobs/switch anything/block some shots
Green - Smallball 5
McGee - DJ insurance for foul trouble/injury
Blake - Green insruance for foul trouble/injury

[Prokorov]

I dont think he needs to expand it. i mean he is/recently was leading the NBA in FG%. he is arguably the best screener in the NBA and an elite roll man and finsiher. And he earns his paychecks on defense to boot.

Pick and roll is his bread and butter. The thing that worries me the most is his hands and the amount of fumbles he makes. I don't trust his ball security. Same thing making passes, fighting for loose balls or handling doubles. It's like he has pinball flippers for hands. He plays great offensively within those limitations and he creates offensive motion with his activity. He also has some really nice footwork and a soft touch around the rim.

You can say the same about claxton and to an extent DJ on handling non-lob passes. Jarrett is a bit of a stiff as a passer, but again, he provides more rim protection then the other 2 by quit a big margin.

[sashaturiaf]

Completely different players but Claxton fits the current team better since what Jarrett brings is too similar to what DJ brings albeit Jarrett does it at a higher level.

There's certain matchups in the playoffs where you just can't play a traditional big major minutes, Claxton I feel can play against any lineup and not be a liability. That versatility is going to be huge, stay healthy young fella.

I agree. I think you add McGee to them and you have a nice 5 Man center depth chart:

DJ - Lobs/rim protection
Claxton - Versatile offense/lobs/switch anything/block some shots
Green - Smallball 5
McGee - DJ insurance for foul trouble/injury
Blake - Green insruance for foul trouble/injury

Same, agree one more big as a depth signing and that's enough. I am out on Drummond now unless if he agrees to come as injury insurance and be happy with playing 10 minutes a game off the bench which just won't happen.