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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1661 » by Susan » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:25 pm

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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

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$11M freed up. Golladay come on down.


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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

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This is the year the Bears and Bears fans finally come to grips with what happened to this franchise a few years ago. Dalton is the unwanted pregnancy that shows up a couple months after a boozy one night stand with the hot waitress who has mental problems.


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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1666 » by Payt10 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:09 am

This is probably the worst Bears off-season of my lifetime. I honestly can't believe what is going on right now. It really feels like they hired a guy to intentionally make the worst possible decisions you can make to ensure the worst possible outcome of the upcoming season.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1667 » by problymchyld04 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:09 am

why is Pace still our GM? more horribly awful decisions are yet to come smh


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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1668 » by nitetrain8603 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:10 am

It's clear that Pace is awful at cap management and negotiations. I can see why he was a scout. He's legit the worst GM I've seen with Cap Management.

Why is Robert Quinn still on that roster but Fuller isn't?
Why did they pay Dalton 10 million when he was only paid 3 by Dallas?
Why did you extend a kicker to a huge deal as your first step of the offseason?
Why did you ever pay Mike Glennon?

Losing out on Russell Wilson or DeShaun Watson because their teams won't trade them is kind of understandable. But why aren't you signing OL? Why didn't you cut most of your OL this offseason?
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1669 » by nitetrain8603 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:10 am

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One of the more underrated failures of Pace is his horrid negotiating tactics. Last year, he gave a whopping deal to Jimmy Graham after the Packers dumped him. And now this. Does he know he should be negotiating to lower the cost of incoming free agents? Someone should tap him on the shoulder during these meetings and let him know.


Yeah that's the biggest takeaway. From reading up about how he bid against himself when he took Trubisky, to Graham's deal, to Quinn's deal, to now Dalton's deal. It's clear he does not know how to negotiate whatsoever. And that's horrific to think.


And likely just a narrative developed by irate Chicago fans.


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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1670 » by Dresden » Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:21 am

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Yeah that's the biggest takeaway. From reading up about how he bid against himself when he took Trubisky, to Graham's deal, to Quinn's deal, to now Dalton's deal. It's clear he does not know how to negotiate whatsoever. And that's horrific to think.


And likely just a narrative developed by irate Chicago fans.


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I don't think he would be in the position he is in if he really did "not know how to negotiate whatsoever".
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1671 » by Susan » Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:31 am

nitetrain8603 wrote:It's clear that Pace is awful at cap management and negotiations. I can see why he was a scout. He's legit the worst GM I've seen with Cap Management.

Why is Robert Quinn still on that roster but Fuller isn't?
Why did they pay Dalton 10 million when he was only paid 3 by Dallas?
Why did you extend a kicker to a huge deal as your first step of the offseason?
Why did you ever pay Mike Glennon?

Losing out on Russell Wilson or DeShaun Watson because their teams won't trade them is kind of understandable. But why aren't you signing OL? Why didn't you cut most of your OL this offseason?


Dalton was cut AFTER FA last year. Different story. Who knows what he would have gotten if he was a free agent.
Quinn wouldn't save them any money this year.
Glennon was a one year rental.

I legit don't care what Pace does as long as he doesn't trade away future firsts to move up in the draft. I don't want a rookie QB sitting for a year behind Dalton/Foles and then everybody getting fired and the next regime being tied to that QB.

Oline was terrible during that crazy rash of injuries/COVID but was decent before and after that period. Massie was toast and cut, Leno was playing injured but serviceable.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1672 » by jnrjr79 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:37 am

nitetrain8603 wrote:It's clear that Pace is awful at cap management and negotiations. I can see why he was a scout. He's legit the worst GM I've seen with Cap Management.

Why is Robert Quinn still on that roster but Fuller isn't?
Why did they pay Dalton 10 million when he was only paid 3 by Dallas?
Why did you extend a kicker to a huge deal as your first step of the offseason?
Why did you ever pay Mike Glennon?

Losing out on Russell Wilson or DeShaun Watson because their teams won't trade them is kind of understandable. But why aren't you signing OL? Why didn't you cut most of your OL this offseason?


In the order you asked:

1. Because Quinn’s money this year is guaranteed.
2. Agreed. I assume Bill Lazor is “why” he was the stopgap choice, but I don’t like it generally or for $10M.
3. The Bears finally figured out the position after having been snakebit for years. This was the right move.
4. Glennon isn’t really an example of bad cap management. They had the space for him and only guaranteed the one season, so they didn’t hamstring the future. He just sucked and was a bad signing generally.
5. The Bears figured out their OL pretty well by the end of the season. They could use an upgrade at tackle, but are otherwise fine enough. They apparently tried for Williams. Tackles are expensive. They may draft someone (but realistically have to make a choice in the first round between tackle and QB, given the mess they are in). Cutting “most” of the O-line would have been insane.

The Bears’ cap management under Pace has been ok. It’s the inability to figure out QB (including trading up to draft a guy who flopped who the Niners weren’t even going to pick anyway), and pretty much just that, that will make his tenure a huge failure. The Bears under the Pace/Nagy regime have been 12-4, 8-8, and 8-8. What would those records have been with Watson or Mahomes? Or even say a good reclamation project line Ryan Tannehill? It’s the commitment to Mitch that sunk the ship.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1673 » by nomorezorro » Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:03 am

i think fuller is a huuuge loss for the defense. our passing defense was shaky as-is and now we're going into next season with a second-year guy as a top corner. unless mack/hicks/jackson can have huge bounceback years i think we're going to be crummy on both sides of the ball (or at least mediocre on defense and bad on offense).

at this point we should have just punted on this season and stripped the roster to its bones, get a good draft pick and cap situation for next year
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1674 » by Am2626 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:16 am

nomorezorro wrote:i think fuller is a huuuge loss for the defense. our passing defense was shaky as-is and now we're going into next season with a second-year guy as a top corner. unless mack/hicks/jackson can have huge bounceback years i think we're going to be crummy on both sides of the ball (or at least mediocre on defense and bad on offense).

at this point we should have just punted on this season and stripped the roster to its bones, get a good draft pick and cap situation for next year


Both Pace and Nagy are fighting for their jobs. There is no way that they are going to punt on this season. Maybe a total collapse is what is needed for the Bears to clean house.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1675 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:53 am

nomorezorro wrote:i think fuller is a huuuge loss for the defense. our passing defense was shaky as-is and now we're going into next season with a second-year guy as a top corner. unless mack/hicks/jackson can have huge bounceback years i think we're going to be crummy on both sides of the ball (or at least mediocre on defense and bad on offense).

at this point we should have just punted on this season and stripped the roster to its bones, get a good draft pick and cap situation for next year


Agreed. Pretty disastrous cut.

It’s at the point to where it looks like the McCaskeys told Pace he’s fired no matter what, but will be the fall guy for a bunch of horrid moves that will cripple the team over the next few years, allowing ownership to cut costs in the seasons to come. An elongated rebuild, if you will.
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Post#1676 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:49 am

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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1677 » by MisterRoy » Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:52 am

They are rebuilding or the McKaseky family is trying to make up for lost revenue from Covid or something. These moves make no sense: Why cut Fuller instead of trading him for a pick or cheaper player? Why give Dolton $10M when he just made $3M in Dallas? Why are we keeping Foles a Graham? We could have released them both and kept our defense in tact.

To many unexplained moves.


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Post#1678 » by thedarkstark » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:05 pm

Trubisky got 2.5 million

Love him or hate him, Trubsiky + Fuller >>>>> Dalton

36 year old Jimmy Graham making $8mil still on the roster btw.

Literally the worst gm in Bears history, and that's saying a lot.
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Post#1679 » by Susan » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:36 pm

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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1680 » by Chi town » Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:18 pm

If we get Golladay I can understand the Fuller cut.

Pace will replenish through the draft and vet min signings. Hicks is aging and missing more and more games.

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