Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VII: Magic Expected To Retain Core

Post #1401 » by **Knightro** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:28 pm

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MartinsIzAfraud · Post #1402 » by **MartinsIzAfraud** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:57 pm

Knightro wrote:

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Has our FO picked up the phone?

pepe1991 · Post #1403 » by **pepe1991** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:59 pm

Brace yourself, Weltman is ready to trade 2 second round picks :lol:

jonbob17 · Post #1404 » by **jonbob17** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:14 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:
jvalin wrote:Celtics fan here. According to Chris Mannix of SI, the Magic are interested in Rubio and Kemba.

Chris Mannix wrote:Aaron Gordon and Evan Fournier are available, as is All-Star center Nikola Vucevic. The Magic have been looking for point guard help, kicking the tires on Ricky Rubio recently. Celtics guard Kemba Walker remains a favorite of Magic coach Steve Clifford, but it’s unlikely Boston, without much depth behind Walker, will part with him at this point.

https://www.si.com/nba/2021/03/16/nba-trade-rumors-storylines-to-follow

He also reports that the Celtics will likely ''pursue Barnes right up until the deadline''.

To sum up:
- Gordon, Fournier are available
- the Magic like Kemba
- the Celtics like Barnes

Would you guys do this trade?

Not me. No point in trading all 3 of AG, Fournier, and Bamba for a player possibly on the decline. Especially while we're trying to lose anyway.

Most of us want young players and/or picks for our players to help set us up for the future. I personally wouldn't mind helping the Celtics out since I actually like them. But not at the cost of our team.

They pull something like this to make a run at the playoffs (need a point guard), and also miss out on a top 5 pick, and I am out.

89Magicfan · Post #1405 » by **89Magicfan** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:18 pm

Knightro wrote:

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I don’t like anything they’d probably offer

jonbob17 · Post #1406 » by **jonbob17** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:21 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:Imagine if Minny gets AG and somehow lands the #1 pick.

Russell
Cade
Edwards
AG
Towns

... if the coach can manage the talent they are going somewhere

The real question is if they lose their pick, are they a playoff team, subbing Beasley for Cade in that line up. I’d be plenty skeptical

MagicFan101 · Post #1407 » by **MagicFan101** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:27 pm

89Magicfan wrote:
Knightro wrote:

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I don’t like anything they’d probably offer

I’ll take a deal which includes RJ Hampton and their 2021 first rounder.

Eventually, a deal for a late first + a young prospect + fillers is the best I can ask for.

MagicFan101 · Post #1408 » by **MagicFan101** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:30 pm

jonbob17 wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:Imagine if Minny gets AG and somehow lands the #1 pick.

Russell
Cade
Edwards
AG
Towns

... if the coach can manage the talent they are going somewhere

The real question is if they lose their pick, are they a playoff team, subbing Beasley for Cade in that line up. I’d be plenty skeptical

They haven’t been healthy all year and Edwards is just now starting to come alive. We haven’t seen their core play together more than a few games this season but when they did they were solid.

Add in Edwards emerging and it’s a new ballgame.

If they can somehow keep their pick and add another premier talent they will be hard to stop soon.

The Effect · Post #1409 » by **The Effect** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:32 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
89Magicfan wrote:
Knightro wrote:

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I don’t like anything they’d probably offer

I’ll take a deal which includes RJ Hampton and their 2021 first rounder.

Eventually, a deal for a late first + a young prospect + fillers is the best I can ask for.

Since i know that theres no wtrade to be made involving MPj, id ask for Bol+hampton+2021FRP and cap filler for AG

axl_c_cool · Post #1410 » by **axl_c_cool** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:13 pm

What if we traded Fournier and Gordon for MPjr + fillers?

The Effect wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
89Magicfan wrote:
I don’t like anything they’d probably offer

I’ll take a deal which includes RJ Hampton and their 2021 first rounder.

Eventually, a deal for a late first + a young prospect + fillers is the best I can ask for.

Since i know that theres no wtrade to be made involving MPj, id ask for Bol+hampton+2021FRP and cap filler for AG

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89Magicfan · Post #1411 » by **89Magicfan** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:14 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
89Magicfan wrote:
Knightro wrote:

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I don’t like anything they’d probably offer

I’ll take a deal which includes RJ Hampton and their 2021 first rounder.

Eventually, a deal for a late first + a young prospect + fillers is the best I can ask for.

Is he a prospect though? Seems to me he’s just young.

The Effect · Post #1412 » by **The Effect** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:20 pm

axl_c_cool wrote:What if we traded Fournier and Gordon for MPjr + fillers?
The Effect wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
I’ll take a deal which includes RJ Hampton and their 2021 first rounder.

Eventually, a deal for a late first + a young prospect + fillers is the best I can ask for.

Since i know that theres no wtrade to be made involving MPj, id ask for Bol+hampton+2021FRP and cap filler for AG

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Where do I sign?

The Effect · Post #1413 » by **The Effect** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:22 pm

89Magicfan wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
89Magicfan wrote:
I don’t like anything they’d probably offer

I’ll take a deal which includes RJ Hampton and their 2021 first rounder.

Eventually, a deal for a late first + a young prospect + fillers is the best I can ask for.

Is he a prospect though? Seems to me he’s just young.

Well What's your definition of a prospect then?

He's super young, athletic, rookie 1st round pick with a ton of upside....seems like the very definition of a prospect?

Bakomagic · Post #1414 » by **Bakomagic** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:23 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:Brace yourself, Weltman is ready to trade 2 second round picks

.......for two future second round picks.

When asked why.. Weltham stated “We can already tell that the draft will flatten out”

89Magicfan · Post #1415 » by **89Magicfan** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:29 pm

The Effect wrote:
89Magicfan wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
I’ll take a deal which includes RJ Hampton and their 2021 first rounder.

Eventually, a deal for a late first + a young prospect + fillers is the best I can ask for.

Is he a prospect though? Seems to me he’s just young.

Well What's your definition of a prospect then?

He's super young, athletic, rookie 1st round pick with a ton of upside....seems like the very definition of a prospect?

Does he have any skill? Talent? What his upside?

magicman112 · Post #1416 » by **magicman112** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:40 pm

Bakomagic wrote:[instagram][/instagram]
pepe1991 wrote:Brace yourself, Weltman is ready to trade 2 second round picks

.......for two future second round picks.

When asked why.. Weltham stated “We can already tell that the draft will flatten out”

Yep, two 2nd round picks that he can later sell for cash before the draft even starts. Like last year.

Skin · Post #1417 » by **Skin** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:12 pm

Knightro wrote:

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Damn that Mike Singer is FAST with his news. LMAO. I guess late news is still news?

I'm just hoping the Magic can use Denver's interest in AG as leverage in trade talks with Minnesota.

Nowell/McDaniels... Gimme, Gimme, Gimme! The Washington Husky chemistry with Fultz would be fantastic!

Viper1500 · Post #1418 » by **Viper1500** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:45 pm

AG is a good player, if we don’t make a trade I’m not mad. I value him higher than what the current rumors are.

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MagicFan101 · Post #1419 » by **MagicFan101** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:54 pm

axl_c_cool wrote:What if we traded Fournier and Gordon for MPjr + fillers?
The Effect wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
I’ll take a deal which includes RJ Hampton and their 2021 first rounder.

Eventually, a deal for a late first + a young prospect + fillers is the best I can ask for.

Since i know that theres no wtrade to be made involving MPj, id ask for Bol+hampton+2021FRP and cap filler for AG

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It was rumored Denver had discussions but was not fully comfortable including MPjr in James Harden talks. Ultimately, most believed they would have pulled the trigger but their reluctance to include him in such a deal shows how high they value him.

... we aren’t getting MPjr for ANYTHING we have.

Post #1420 » by **Knightro** » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:25 pm

The problem with Minnesota is that they can't trade a 1st until 2023 and because of the protections on the 2021 pick they owe the Warriors, the Magic might not even see a hypothetical 2023 pick until 2024.

Plus Minnesota would probably want protections on the pick too, so are you really trading Gordon for a protected pick that's four drafts away?

So at that point if you're not getting a draft pick for four years, then it boils down to how much you like Wolves young players. Guys like Nowell, McDaniels, Okogie, Culver, etc.