Nuggets Trades

[The Rebel]

Barton, Harris, green
For
Russell Westbrook


Is there a forward that Wiz would add to that trade?

I wouldn't trade Harris for Westbrook straight up, and I am not sure Harris is coming back.

[KKP]

I really appreciate Murray, I think he could bring a championship role in Phil..I would like to welcome Denver Trade Simons

[TunaFish]

Barton, Harris, green
For
Russell Westbrook


Is there a forward that Wiz would add to that trade?

I wouldn't trade Harris for Westbrook straight up, and I am not sure Harris is coming back.

I also would not trade for Westbrook because his style would conflict with Jokic. Westbrook needs to be the point for an offense and his outside shooting is suspect.

I think Harris is coming back because his last injury is the same as the one that effected him last fall, only on the other side of the groin. In other words he pulled the opposite muscle. He recovered in the fall from that similar injury, so I would guess the same recovery is likely. That's not to say they won't trade him.

[TunaFish]

I really appreciate Murray, I think he could bring a championship role in Phil..I would like to welcome Denver Trade Simons

Murray is part of a big three offense. Without a doubt, they won't trade him unless an obvious upgrade is presented. Murray is already considered a top five defensive guard and when in the zone, a deadly outside shot. Therefore, he is not likely to be traded unless a better player is coming back and there aren't many better players.

If you a proposing a trade for Simmons, then while you are in the ballpark in terms of talent, the offensive side of Murray is too great to be ignored. They would trade him for Embid, however.

[The Rebel]

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I really appreciate Murray, I think he could bring a championship role in Phil..I would like to welcome Denver Trade Simons

Why would we trade for Simmons? He is not a good fit next to Jokic and we need more outside shooting, not less.

[KKP]

Because Malone is trying to make a GS, and Murray is meant to play Green where there is a lot, where there is no adequate role with the ball ..

[Richard Miller]

Because Malone is trying to make a GS, and Murray is meant to play Green where there is a lot, where there is no adequate role with the ball ..

Who was Jokic on GS? As one beat writer mentioned, the Nuggets haven't considered Murray trade in years, that's not going to change now.

[The Rebel]

Barton, Harris, green
For
Russell Westbrook


Is there a forward that Wiz would add to that trade?

I wouldn't trade Harris for Westbrook straight up, and I am not sure Harris is coming back.

I also would not trade for Westbrook because his style would conflict with Jokic. Westbrook needs to be the point for an offense and his outside shooting is suspect.

I think Harris is coming back because his last injury is the same as the one that effected him last fall, only on the other side of the groin. In other words he pulled the opposite muscle. He recovered in the fall from that similar injury, so I would guess the same recovery is likely. That's not to say they won't trade him.

The injury is a hip abductor, which has been his problem for 3 years now, he gets healthier starts playing well, and screws up his hips. Hip abductors control your balance and control of your legs, if his cannot hold up for more than 30-40 gam es at time he may not be back.

[THE J0KER]

The trade which I would approve on trade deadline is a notable starter level two-way guard.

We don't need role players right now, and if we want to dump Harris better to wait for offseason and use him in a playoff where his one-dimensional defensive game can be very useful against teams like Jazz, Suns, Blazers...

[NuggetsWY]

I really appreciate Murray, I think he could bring a championship role in Phil..I would like to welcome Denver Trade Simons

I know the 76ers love Simmons and think the world of him - is that why so many want to trade him? It's been suggested more than once on the general board and the trade board and Nuggets fans have pointed out, repeatedly, that Simmons' game doesn't fit with Jokic's game - and Murray's does. Simmons needs the ball in his hands and Jokic has more touches than anyone in the league - rightfully so. Add to that, Simmons can't hit outside shots too well - and Murray hits them just fine. So Simmons would allow teams to clog the paint, removing Jokic's effectiveness.

I will grant you that Simmons is a better defender; but it ain't likely he's brought to Denver. I'd suggest letting it go. More than one person has already said no.

I'll also surmise that Philly fans are tired of under-whelming bids for Simmons. So please don't do that here.

[The Rebel]

Putting some rumors together, it sounds like the Magic are going to blow it up and that the Twolves are desperate for a PF. There are also rumors that the Magic like Bol and that we reportedly were interested in Ross and Culver. I wonder if they are working on a 3 team deal?

Orlando trade Gordon, Ross, and Aminu for Rubio, Harris, Bol, Nowell, 2021 Nuggets 1st round pick, and a future Twolves 1st (2 years after the one they owe the Warriors.)

The deal gives them the chance to finish the tank while they wait for Issac and Fultz to get healthy. It gives them 2 young guys with some solid upside in Bol and Nowell to feed minutes and see what they have, they also get Rubio to run the offense with Fultz out this year and next he can be a good backup PG. They pick up a late 1st this year to go with their top lotto pick and a pick that can be good in 2-3 years or have some good value in a year.

Twolves trade Rubio, Nowell, Culver, and a future 1st round pick for Gordon and Aminu.

They get rid of Rubio who is not happy there and a couple of redundant players for a good defensive PF that fits in their offense and may help them win more than 30 games over the next couple of seasons.

Nuggets trade Harris, Bol, and the 2021 1st round pick for Ross and Culver.

With MPJ appearing to be at his best at PF and Murray and MOrris playing so well together this year, this moves the long term upside of Bol and this year's pick for a good 6th man and a higher upside SF that may develop in our system.

I think we have talked about Ross's defense and he is a solid bench scorer, so he would fit perfectly especially when Jokic leaves the court.

Culver was overdrafted, I have always thought he was picked too high, but he does have some potential as a good 4th or 5th starter type that is a good defender and can score a little bit. A year in our development program may give us a long term starter with our stars.

If you figure Murray/ MOrris/ and Campazzo are going to take 75 minutes at guard, Barton at SF 30 mpg and Ross picking up 28 mpg at SG/SF. That leaves with Hampton, Culver, and Cancar competing for about 11 mpg at SG or SF during the regular season.


The deal also allows you to move MPJ full time to PF, where he can play 30 mpg, Jokic with his 30 mpg, and you have Millsap and green taking the other 36 minutes between the 2 of them.

ONce you get to the playoffs you have a solid proven 8-9 man rotation.

The 1 issue is that is does add at least $11.5 million to the cap when MPj expires but I think this team could be a contender with this deal and some more time for the young role players to develop.

[KKP]

Because Malone is trying to make a GS, and Murray is meant to play Green where there is a lot, where there is no adequate role with the ball ..

Who was Jokic on GS? As one beat writer mentioned, the Nuggets haven't considered Murray trade in years, that's not going to change now.

With a quick transition and blocks Jokic without excessive commitment in the organization, at the expense of points can play a similar role in the run gun game as Kari ..

[psimanic1]

Not sure what would everyone think, but I would like to see us get Knox from NYK, he could probably be cheap, really cheap, and had some nice games but doesnt get enough minutes with Tibs.

[Manolito]

We have Juancho´s TPE expiring today, which could land a young player whose salary is lower than 3.3M while sending Cancar + cash somewhere. Unfortunately, TBJ´s salary is 50k$ above TPE

[NuggetsWY]

Not sure what would everyone think, but I would like to see us get Knox from NYK, he could probably be cheap, really cheap, and had some nice games but doesnt get enough minutes with Tibs.

I hadn't really thought about him for the Nuggets. He's not a stat stuffer - that's for sure. We have Jokic - Porter - Murray to do a lot of that. Plus Barton can do some nice stat lines and Campazzo - oh my, we have some stats stuffer types.

If Harris were healthy, his defense is worth not having his offense IMO. I'm not so sure about Knox. He seems like a nice bench player to me though, so I guess I wouldn't mind acquiring him. Especially when you look forward to when, hopefully, we have Nnaji getting major minutes alongside Porter. Knox might be a good backup SF. He can score and is athletic enough to be a decent defender. Perhaps his biggest problem has been his team. With no consistency in terms of coaches and systems, since before he got there, I'm sure that has slowed down his development somewhat.

[slicedbread2]

We have Juancho´s TPE expiring today, which could land a young player whose salary is lower than 3.3M while sending Cancar + cash somewhere. Unfortunately, TBJ´s salary is 50k$ above TPE

I'm gonna assume that's Troy Brown Jr. Is that correct?

Well if it is you are actually in luck. Yes his salary is slightly larger than the Juancho TPE, but I found this:

https://cbabreakdown.com/salary-cap-exceptions

You can go down to the TPE section, but apparently the TPE would allow a team over the salary cap to trade for a player of their own without having to give up any players as long as the incoming salary isn't larger than the exception plus $100,000. I think in light of all the forwards on the Wizards, playing time has become scarce for TBJ and he may be best served with a fresh start elsewhere. The Nuggets would be in luck and should roll the dice as he only has 2 years left on his deal. If it doesn't work, then at worse you just gave up a 2nd or 2 due to the fact that his salary could be used to be consolidate depth should a deal be available.

Plus the Nuggets would still be under the luxury tax by $1.9M. Yes they'd be at 18 and would have to cut someone due to league rosters only allowing 15 players+2 2-way contracts, but it'd be smart to make use of a trade exception that can help down the line.

[skywalker33]

We have Juancho´s TPE expiring today, which could land a young player whose salary is lower than 3.3M while sending Cancar + cash somewhere. Unfortunately, TBJ´s salary is 50k$ above TPE

I'm gonna assume that's Troy Brown Jr. Is that correct?

Well if it is you are actually in luck. Yes his salary is slightly larger than the Juancho TPE, but I found this:

https://cbabreakdown.com/salary-cap-exceptions

You can go down to the TPE section, but apparently the TPE would allow a team over the salary cap to trade for a player of their own without having to give up any players as long as the incoming salary isn't larger than the exception plus $100,000. I think in light of all the forwards on the Wizards, playing time has become scarce for TBJ and he may be best served with a fresh start elsewhere. The Nuggets would be in luck and should roll the dice as he only has 2 years left on his deal. If it doesn't work, then at worse you just gave up a 2nd or 2 due to the fact that his salary could be used to be consolidate depth should a deal be available.

Plus the Nuggets would still be under the luxury tax by $1.9M. Yes they'd be at 18 and would have to cut someone due to league rosters only allowing 15 players+2 2-way contracts, but it'd be smart to make use of a trade exception that can help down the line.

Manolito did suggest trading Vlatko Cancar with the TPE, so that rids of one issue

[psimanic1]

Dont think you can trade player with TPE, it would have to be another trade, and Harris, Bol Bol, Cancar, protected pick would maybe get us Gordon and free up space for TBJ

[Manolito]

We have Juancho´s TPE expiring today, which could land a young player whose salary is lower than 3.3M while sending Cancar + cash somewhere. Unfortunately, TBJ´s salary is 50k$ above TPE

I'm gonna assume that's Troy Brown Jr. Is that correct?

Well if it is you are actually in luck. Yes his salary is slightly larger than the Juancho TPE, but I found this:

https://cbabreakdown.com/salary-cap-exceptions

You can go down to the TPE section, but apparently the TPE would allow a team over the salary cap to trade for a player of their own without having to give up any players as long as the incoming salary isn't larger than the exception plus $100,000. I think in light of all the forwards on the Wizards, playing time has become scarce for TBJ and he may be best served with a fresh start elsewhere. The Nuggets would be in luck and should roll the dice as he only has 2 years left on his deal. If it doesn't work, then at worse you just gave up a 2nd or 2 due to the fact that his salary could be used to be consolidate depth should a deal be available.

Plus the Nuggets would still be under the luxury tax by $1.9M. Yes they'd be at 18 and would have to cut someone due to league rosters only allowing 15 players+2 2-way contracts, but it'd be smart to make use of a trade exception that can help down the line.

Manolito did suggest trading Vlatko Cancar with the TPE, so that rids of one issue

I meant actually what slicedbread explained. Cancar must be in the deal because Nuggets have already 15 players. He could be dumped somewhere else or traded to WAS with the TPE generated by Troy Brown Jr.

Too beutiful to happen.

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[THE J0KER]

If Clippers really find the way to get Lonzo Ball (using which assets??), we should target current LAC PG-starter and defensive specialist Patrick Beverley, dumping Harris with 2021FRP. But we need to find a 3rd side for that.