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Game Thread: Kings (16-24) @ Celtics (20-20) – 7:30PM, Fri. 03-19-21

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Re: Game Thread: Kings (16-24) @ Celtics (20-20) – 7:30PM, Fri. 03-19-21 

Post#501 » by GuyClinch » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:34 am

aussie_pride wrote:
Sactowndog wrote:The Kings are playing better now that Marvin is out. They are a team that shares the ball and Marvin stops it. You can see the Kings probably have less talent but they do a better job of moving the ball.

The J’s have to do a better job of passing. I think Fox was the best player on the floor tonight.


I think you are right with your statement about the J's needing to facilitate more. It seems to me that they are too focused on creating their own shots, many of which end up being bad ones. I actually like the way that Tatum played in his rookie year. Even though he was not as statistically impressive as he is now, he made correct basketball plays and made better use of his team mates. Kobe's influence on Tatum was not a good thing as that style is very risky and has the potential to cause locker room issues. I also think that when you have players who are focused predominantly on iso-ball and creating their own shots it makes a lot of players on the court anxious as they feel need to contribute and justify their contracts. Kemba Walker is a classic example of this. He is on a big contract and if he become maligned as a result of Tatum's constant desire to shoot then he is instinctively going to feel the need to rush shot in order to contribute.

A lot of people criticised Gordon Hayward's output when he was at Boston but you can clearly see his value now that he is gone - his high basketball IQ meant that he made good plays and those around him benefitted.

Fox had a really good game but we gave him too many easy shots. There were too many bad defensive errors in the way we covered him, especially coming off screens. When he knocking down shots in the fourth, that was the time to get tighter on him.


Hayward knows how to play the game. Guy is well schooled in team basketball - so he can make others around him better. The downside is that he is not the best at being a #1 option. Hayward was good fit. The J's are never going to be that kind of player, IMHO. They are scorers that can defend some. But the C's overall do not play very good team basketball.
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Re: Game Thread: Kings (16-24) @ Celtics (20-20) – 7:30PM, Fri. 03-19-21 

Post#502 » by Sactowndog » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:39 am

GuyClinch wrote:
aussie_pride wrote:
Sactowndog wrote:The Kings are playing better now that Marvin is out. They are a team that shares the ball and Marvin stops it. You can see the Kings probably have less talent but they do a better job of moving the ball.

The J’s have to do a better job of passing. I think Fox was the best player on the floor tonight.


I think you are right with your statement about the J's needing to facilitate more. It seems to me that they are too focused on creating their own shots, many of which end up being bad ones. I actually like the way that Tatum played in his rookie year. Even though he was not as statistically impressive as he is now, he made correct basketball plays and made better use of his team mates. Kobe's influence on Tatum was not a good thing as that style is very risky and has the potential to cause locker room issues. I also think that when you have players who are focused predominantly on iso-ball and creating their own shots it makes a lot of players on the court anxious as they feel need to contribute and justify their contracts. Kemba Walker is a classic example of this. He is on a big contract and if he become maligned as a result of Tatum's constant desire to shoot then he is instinctively going to feel the need to rush shot in order to contribute.

A lot of people criticised Gordon Hayward's output when he was at Boston but you can clearly see his value now that he is gone - his high basketball IQ meant that he made good plays and those around him benefitted.

Fox had a really good game but we gave him too many easy shots. There were too many bad defensive errors in the way we covered him, especially coming off screens. When he knocking down shots in the fourth, that was the time to get tighter on him.


Hayward knows how to play the game. Guy is well schooled in team basketball - so he can make others around him better. The downside is that he is not the best at being a #1 option. Hayward was good fit. The J's are never going to be that kind of player, IMHO. They are scorers that can defend some. But the C's overall do not play very good team basketball.


Yeah which is odd because Brad excels at team basketball. Brad taught Hayward. I think Danny needs to be clear this team is Brad’s team and the players can listen or leave.

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Re: Game Thread: Kings (16-24) @ Celtics (20-20) – 7:30PM, Fri. 03-19-21 

Post#503 » by aussie_pride » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:45 am

GuyClinch wrote:
aussie_pride wrote:
Sactowndog wrote:The Kings are playing better now that Marvin is out. They are a team that shares the ball and Marvin stops it. You can see the Kings probably have less talent but they do a better job of moving the ball.

The J’s have to do a better job of passing. I think Fox was the best player on the floor tonight.


I think you are right with your statement about the J's needing to facilitate more. It seems to me that they are too focused on creating their own shots, many of which end up being bad ones. I actually like the way that Tatum played in his rookie year. Even though he was not as statistically impressive as he is now, he made correct basketball plays and made better use of his team mates. Kobe's influence on Tatum was not a good thing as that style is very risky and has the potential to cause locker room issues. I also think that when you have players who are focused predominantly on iso-ball and creating their own shots it makes a lot of players on the court anxious as they feel need to contribute and justify their contracts. Kemba Walker is a classic example of this. He is on a big contract and if he become maligned as a result of Tatum's constant desire to shoot then he is instinctively going to feel the need to rush shot in order to contribute.

A lot of people criticised Gordon Hayward's output when he was at Boston but you can clearly see his value now that he is gone - his high basketball IQ meant that he made good plays and those around him benefitted.

Fox had a really good game but we gave him too many easy shots. There were too many bad defensive errors in the way we covered him, especially coming off screens. When he knocking down shots in the fourth, that was the time to get tighter on him.


Hayward knows how to play the game. Guy is well schooled in team basketball - so he can make others around him better. The downside is that he is not the best at being a #1 option. Hayward was good fit. The J's are never going to be that kind of player, IMHO. They are scorers that can defend some. But the C's overall do not play very good team basketball.


I think it depends on what you mean by the no. 1 option? If you are referring to the first choice scorer then I would disagree with that slightly. I felt he did an excellent job of that in Utah. If you are referring to him being the primary ball handler then that is a fair point. With that being said, if you are coach then that is an aspect of his game that you can work on. Given that he has an excellent ability to read the floor I would run my entire offense through him. Given that the whole archetype for positions has been blurred in today's game, I do not see any reason why he could not play as a point guard! Ultimately, I think the reason why he left was because his game was suffering. How many times did we see him just standing out on the wing, not doing anything because Tatum or Brown were trying to create a shot.

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