Trade deadline report from Shams

[Lockdown504090]

https://raptorsrapture.com/2021/03/03/raptors-76ers-cavaliers-trade-kyle-lowry-espn/
theres this, i think philly wouldnt even have to give us maxey to get this done.

But they just give up all of their other assets lol? Multiple first round picks, some unprotected. And Tyrese Maxey? This is getting to the James Harden level without Ben SImmons. Lowry is a rental.

Well the guy says it would "be a steal" for the Raptors.

I don't think it's crazy for the Raptors to stake this out as an initial negotiating point. Thing is, there's not really much precedent for someone to give this much up for a 35 year old on an expiring contract. The Raptors a few years basically traded for a player in an identical point in his career in Gasol (who was also a "franchise icon") and didn't give this much. So either they come down to something more reasonable or they aren't really interested in trading him (which I get).

the price for lowry when push comes to shove is 2 picks and cap filler to be honest. The raptors value late firsts and seconds more than most other teams for obvious reasons and they really do feel like it is important to give lowry a chance to win a title more than getting the absolute most they can for him.

[Statlanta]

Harrell is one of the few hungry Lakers who haven't won a title. I see no reason to trade him with no good starters in the block.

[trickshot]

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This is the trade that needs to be made.

Your fans will riot but your FO is pretty smart for this. The guy puts up a lot of efficient scoring nights but his approach on the defensive end makes it empty calories. That's without factoring the difficulty of building a functional frontcourt with a 4 that can't space the floor. Puts unnecessary pressure on management to find a 5 that can

[Tracymcgoaty]

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This is the trade that needs to be made.

What trade? Did I miss something?

Nothing right now but Trez is the one with the highest value i think right now. What do you think about Trezz btw?

[vxmike]

Cleveland isn't taking back Powell.

Here is the only construction that works for both teams: Johnson+WCS+Boban with WCS probably siphoned off to a 3rd team. Dallas probably has to add a single 2nd so Cleveland can tell their fans they got something.

If Dallas could turn Powell and 2nds into any expiring contract that's a win, but then that's not a Drummond trade. That's a dump Dwight Powell trade because that is the primary benefit. But Cleveland isn't adding another bad contract on top of Love's bad contract without a real incentive and Dallas should not provide it.

Agree but Dallas should dump Powell somehow if they’re adding Drummond. I’m assuming if they like Andre they’ll re-sign for a lower amount, so they need to dump Powell if they want to retain cap space.

[Big J]

If Lonzo doesn’t like how he’s being used by the Pelicans he is going to be absolutely miserable next to Trae.

[Tracymcgoaty]

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This is the trade that needs to be made.

Your fans will riot but your FO is pretty smart for this. The guy puts up a lot of efficient scoring nights but his approach on the defensive end makes it empty calories. That's without factoring the difficulty of building a functional frontcourt with a 4 that can't space the floor. Puts unnecessary pressure on management to find a 5 that can

I dont think we'd riot if we could get something of value for him that suits the teams needs. We need a C and a sharpshooter. I like Trezz a lot but i've been on aboard him getting traded ever since we got him. I think he'll get exploited against certain matchups. And with Gasol looking ancient we're in a bad spot.

[Duffman100]

If you're trading for Lowry you better be desperate.

He'll be a 35 year old PG and occasional allstar level. This isn't CP3, he could suck and might suck right now in a system that just has players deffering to him while they lose.

Just an embarrassingly bad take.

[Texas Chuck]

Cleveland isn't taking back Powell.

Here is the only construction that works for both teams: Johnson+WCS+Boban with WCS probably siphoned off to a 3rd team. Dallas probably has to add a single 2nd so Cleveland can tell their fans they got something.

If Dallas could turn Powell and 2nds into any expiring contract that's a win, but then that's not a Drummond trade. That's a dump Dwight Powell trade because that is the primary benefit. But Cleveland isn't adding another bad contract on top of Love's bad contract without a real incentive and Dallas should not provide it.

Agree but Dallas should dump Powell somehow if they’re adding Drummond. I’m assuming if they like Andre they’ll re-sign for a lower amount, so they need to dump Powell if they want to retain cap space.

If they are keeping Drummond's cap hold in order to re-sign him next year, they won't be a cap space team and so Powell isn't a hindrance to anything but Cuban's wallet at that point. So the longer they can hold on him, the cheaper getting off him becomes.

I don't have Powell as a factor in a Drummond deal that views him as anything more than a rental. I just don't think Dallas should view him as a long-term piece because KP is only a center.

[reamily]

Drummond will play the muscle role for dallas..set defensive tone in strethches the way Dwight/javale has been used for the lakers

[reamily]

If Lonzo doesn’t like how he’s being used by the Pelicans he is going to be absolutely miserable next to Trae.

For 100 mislion usd, hed be a willing guy..

[NyKnicks1714]

I'm surprised J.J. Redick isn't being mentioned at all. He might be done, but there has to be some market for him. Whether he gets traded or bought out, there's no reason for him to finish the season as a Pelican.

[celticfan42487]

If you're trading for Lowry you better be desperate.

He'll be a 35 year old PG and occasional allstar level. This isn't CP3, he could suck and might suck right now in a system that just has players deffering to him while they lose.

Just an embarrassingly bad take.

Not if your opinion isn't just pure homerism.

[Duffman100]

If you're trading for Lowry you better be desperate.

He'll be a 35 year old PG and occasional allstar level. This isn't CP3, he could suck and might suck right now in a system that just has players deffering to him while they lose.

Just an embarrassingly bad take.

Not if your opinion isn't just pure homerism.

Yeah it's homerism to say that a 18, 7 and 6 point guard who plays great defense and is championship proven will provide a ton of value to a contending team.

Yeah...that's homerism

[celticfan42487]

Just an embarrassingly bad take.

Not if your opinion isn't just pure homerism.

Yeah it's homerism to say that a 18, 7 and 6 point guard who plays great defense and is championship proven will provide a ton of value to a contending team.

Yeah...that's homerism

None of that addresses my also very valid concerns about trading for a soon to be 35 year old PG and how that has almost always gone for non top of their generation players. Along with him being apart of a team putting up those numbers on a team falling off a cliff...

Believe it or not you can believe a player succeed and me one fail and both of reasons for it be rooted in logical reasons and based on facts.

[Duffman100]

Not if your opinion isn't just pure homerism.

Yeah it's homerism to say that a 18, 7 and 6 point guard who plays great defense and is championship proven will provide a ton of value to a contending team.

Yeah...that's homerism

None of that addresses my also very valid concerns about trading for a soon to be 35 year old PG and how that has almost always gone for non top of their generation players. Along with him being apart of a team putting up those numbers on a team falling off a cliff...

Believe it or not you can believe a player succeed and me one fail and both of reasons for it be rooted in logical reasons and based on facts.

Sure it does. You said a team would be desperate to add him. How is it desperate to add a near-all star player THIS year to win a title?

[celticfan42487]

Yeah it's homerism to say that a 18, 7 and 6 point guard who plays great defense and is championship proven will provide a ton of value to a contending team.

Yeah...that's homerism

None of that addresses my also very valid concerns about trading for a soon to be 35 year old PG and how that has almost always gone for non top of their generation players. Along with him being apart of a team putting up those numbers on a team falling off a cliff...

Believe it or not you can believe a player succeed and me one fail and both of reasons for it be rooted in logical reasons and based on facts.

Sure it does. You said a team would be desperate to add him. How is it desperate to add a near-all star player THIS year to win a title?

How is it desperate to add a 35 year PG? How is that short sighted? How is it questionable how good he'll be in a new system?

Just stop.

[Duffman100]

None of that addresses my also very valid concerns about trading for a soon to be 35 year old PG and how that has almost always gone for non top of their generation players. Along with him being apart of a team putting up those numbers on a team falling off a cliff...

Believe it or not you can believe a player succeed and me one fail and both of reasons for it be rooted in logical reasons and based on facts.

Sure it does. You said a team would be desperate to add him. How is it desperate to add a near-all star player THIS year to win a title?

How is it desperate to add a 35 year PG? How is that short sighted? How is it questionable how good he'll be in a new system?

Just stop.

Yes, how is it desperate to add a top 30 player?

It's shortsighted when you're a championship contender to add one of the best PGs in the league? The entire point is make a half season move, into the playoffs, that's going to push you over the edge. Lowry can be that player.

[lamscott]

This is the trade that needs to be made.

Your fans will riot but your FO is pretty smart for this. The guy puts up a lot of efficient scoring nights but his approach on the defensive end makes it empty calories. That's without factoring the difficulty of building a functional frontcourt with a 4 that can't space the floor. Puts unnecessary pressure on management to find a 5 that can

I dont think we'd riot if we could get something of value for him that suits the teams needs. We need a C and a sharpshooter. I like Trezz a lot but i've been on aboard him getting traded ever since we got him. I think he'll get exploited against certain matchups. And with Gasol looking ancient we're in a bad spot.

Trez would be looking a lot better if Gasol was able to create more, rebound, and erase defensive mistakes.

Lakers don't have much a fluidity to their game approach because of Trez's lack of shooting, but its also because Gasol has been absolutely crap and Wes Matthews is a waste of a spot.

[Openheimer]

Dinwiddie has 3 suitors is music to my ears. Pistons, Heat and Raptors