Hawks showing interest in Lonzo Ball?

[Galloisdaman]

I'd also look at the X factor that comes along with the Balls.

There's no X factor. His dad is a loudmouth, so what. There are plenty of NBA dads who are loud mouths.

Lonzo has been a model citizen on and off the court every team he's been on. He's basically the polar opposite of his dad when it comes to his demeaner and how he conducts himself.

I'm not down on Lonzo but at times people in LA did say the dad was a distraction. Now despite Lonzo having his best season his dad is bashing the coaching, the organization and pushing for a trade.

[shakes0]

I'd also look at the X factor that comes along with the Balls.

There's no X factor. His dad is a loudmouth, so what. There are plenty of NBA dads who are loud mouths.

Lonzo has been a model citizen on and off the court every team he's been on. He's basically the polar opposite of his dad when it comes to his demeaner and how he conducts himself.

I'm not down on Lonzo but at times people in LA did say the dad was a distraction. Now despite Lonzo having his best season his dad is bashing the coaching, the organization and pushing for a trade.

His dad was a distraction during Lonzo's rookie year, but faded into the background of just being an annoying NBA dad after that. Since then Lonzo has distanced himself from his dad.

He recently bashed the team and said to trade him, but that's no different than 10 other annoying NBA dads out there doing the same thing. Marvin Bagley, DeAaron Fox, Kyrie Irving. They all have dads who talk too much and say things they shouldn't.

It's only a distraction if you're petty enough to listen to what some idiot father is saying. I was able to ignore that stuff when I was coaching kid's hockey so I would imagine a pro sports team could also figure that out.

[Galloisdaman]

There's no X factor. His dad is a loudmouth, so what. There are plenty of NBA dads who are loud mouths.

Lonzo has been a model citizen on and off the court every team he's been on. He's basically the polar opposite of his dad when it comes to his demeaner and how he conducts himself.

I'm not down on Lonzo but at times people in LA did say the dad was a distraction. Now despite Lonzo having his best season his dad is bashing the coaching, the organization and pushing for a trade.

His dad was a distraction during Lonzo's rookie year, but faded into the background of just being an annoying NBA dad after that. Since then Lonzo has distanced himself from his dad.

He recently bashed the team and said to trade him, but that's no different than 10 other annoying NBA dads out there doing the same thing. Marvin Bagley, DeAaron Fox, Kyrie Irving. They all have dads who talk too much and say things they shouldn't.

It's only a distraction if you're petty enough to listen to what some idiot father is saying. I was able to ignore that stuff when I was coaching kid's hockey so I would imagine a pro sports team could also figure that out.

Well if the team feels the same as you then it is not a factor but not everyone may share your outlook. Some people like Isiah Thomas agreed with your outlook. Others (in LA) did not.

[jayu70]

My biggest question is are we signing him to backup Trae or as a starting SG. I think he would want his own team as the starting PG?
At SG, he isn't much of a scorer/shooter (I know he is having a good season from 3), he's not a drive and finish in the lane guy, he doesn't get to the free throw line - what he can do is relieve ball handling pressure off Trae, but Trae has not done much to improve his off ball movement so far this year.

[shakes0]

My biggest question is are we signing him to backup Trae or as a starting SG. I think he would want his own team as the starting PG?
At SG, he isn't much of a scorer/shooter (I know he is having a good season from 3), he's not a drive and finish in the lane guy, he doesn't get to the free throw line - what he can do is relieve ball handling pressure off Trae, but Trae has not done much to improve his off ball movement so far this year.

He's a great spot up shooter and wing defender. We definitely need that. But you are right, he has zero skills in the half court other than spot up catch and shoot.

[Jamaaliver]

...he's not a drive and finish in the lane guy, he doesn't get to the free throw line - what he can do is relieve ball handling pressure off Trae...

He's a great spot up shooter and wing defender. We definitely need that. But you are right, he has zero skills in the half court other than spot up catch and shoot.

Sadly, none of our options at SG are great at those things. Lonzo is at least a secondary playmaker that can alleviate tghe offensive pressure on Trae when teams double him.

And he's been a more consistent shooter from deep than every Hawks SG not named Huerter.

[shakes0]

I read a stat last week that said that Lonzo guards tougher players than any other player in the NBA. We definitely need a guy who can do that night in night out.

[CP War Hawks]

I'd be willing to offer up 2021 1st rd pick, Huerter, and future lotto protected pick for him. I think Cam can develop into a bigger piece for future deals.

The Boggs rumors makes sense for an expiring, draft picks to pay for Ball in this scenario. You kind of get the clutter out of the way for Ball and Cam.

[azuresou1]

Lonzo is a great fit for us and I've always been supportive of trying to get him. He does everything you want an ancillary player to do.

I'd do Huerter + future pick for him, but TBH I'd try to work something around a 3 way trade sending out Bogi instead first.

[Jamaaliver]

Lonzo is a great fit for us and I've always been supportive of trying to get him. He does everything you want an ancillary player to do.

Yeah, I'm with you on this one, Mike. And I've come around big time on Lonzo.

He fits in the timeline, the culture and the lineup almost flawlessly for Atlanta.

D Hunter + Lonzo + Trae is a championship core...for years to come.
And for a true contending core -- you overpay if necessary.

Add in the fact that Okongwu is developing off the bench and he knows the Ball family incredibly well...we might be onto something big.

[tbhawksfan1]

Are you guys sure that you're not over-valuing Lonzo? Why does the Pels suck so bad? The greatest thing since Lebron in Zion, Ingram, Adams, Lonzo and some decent guys on the bench. Are you guys really sure that Lonzo is the guy we want?

[tbhawksfan1]

Lonzo is a great fit for us and I've always been supportive of trying to get him. He does everything you want an ancillary player to do.

I'd do Huerter + future pick for him, but TBH I'd try to work something around a 3 way trade sending out Bogi instead first.

I'd think about Red and a future lot prot FRP for Lonz. Bogs is probably a better player, not on D, but definately on O

[D21]

Are you guys sure that you're not over-valuing Lonzo? Why does the Pels suck so bad? The greatest thing since Lebron in Zion, Ingram, Adams, Lonzo and some decent guys on the bench. Are you guys really sure that Lonzo is the guy we want?

On the few games I watched, I didn't see them being bad with him, more when he's on the bench.
Didn't check a lot of stats, but just the On/Off court show that they are 8pts better with him than without him, and he's leading NOP players by far.

Doesn't mean I'm sure to want to trade for him, and especially with his RFA status

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[tbhawksfan1]

Good. Lonzo hasn't done crap in four years and people want to act like he's a major asset and pay a high price. Much rather have Cam and a likely top 20 pick than a $20M Lonzo. Plus he's on record as wanting to play in LA or NY