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Re: Trade deadline report from Shams 

Post#81 » by Sofia » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:05 pm

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Post#82 » by Zeno » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:14 pm

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Harrell for Malik Monk and Biyombo. Who says no?
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Post#83 » by basketballRob » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:22 pm

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Post#84 » by CP War Hawks » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:43 pm

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Aren't the Wolves literally a bottom 3 team? If so, you would understand why they wouldn't trade a top 5 pick fo John.


Beasley is a true headcase and Minny is obligated to give GS a top 5 pick either this draft or next. Basically this is a baseless rumor.
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Post#85 » by vxmike » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:44 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:Cleveland isn't taking back Powell.

Here is the only construction that works for both teams: Johnson+WCS+Boban with WCS probably siphoned off to a 3rd team. Dallas probably has to add a single 2nd so Cleveland can tell their fans they got something.

If Dallas could turn Powell and 2nds into any expiring contract that's a win, but then that's not a Drummond trade. That's a dump Dwight Powell trade because that is the primary benefit. But Cleveland isn't adding another bad contract on top of Love's bad contract without a real incentive and Dallas should not provide it.


Agree but Dallas should dump Powell somehow if they’re adding Drummond. I’m assuming if they like Andre they’ll re-sign for a lower amount, so they need to dump Powell if they want to retain cap space.


If they are keeping Drummond's cap hold in order to re-sign him next year, they won't be a cap space team and so Powell isn't a hindrance to anything but Cuban's wallet at that point. So the longer they can hold on him, the cheaper getting off him becomes.

I don't have Powell as a factor in a Drummond deal that views him as anything more than a rental. I just don't think Dallas should view him as a long-term piece because KP is only a center.


I was working under the assumption Drummond is t worth more than $15m/yr so if they dumped Powell and signed him they’d only be down about $4m.

I think Dallas will waste Luka’s rookie and second contracts doing nothing if they rely on KP as their #2 but that’s another topic I suppose.
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Post#86 » by JasonStern » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:52 pm

Sofia wrote:wtf are Houston doing looking at Gordon for picks? They should be dangling whatever they have left to acquire picks.


Strongly suspect that this is just leaked info to try to set the market for what Orlando is expecting teams to offer for Gordon.


BBallFreak wrote:I just want LaMarcus Aldridge on the buyout market. Release Silva, replace him with LMA. Forget trading for Lowry. Just improve the power rotation. That's all...


If Aldridge is bought out, I suspect Dallas is option #1, then Portland #2.
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Post#87 » by Bornstellar » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:55 pm

I wish the Spurs would just tell LMA to sack up and play off the bench if they can't find a trade partner or too bad. I'm sure they will buy him out in the end but really sucks knowing teams are going to get him for free while we get zilch in return
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Post#88 » by BBallFreak » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:02 pm

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Sofia wrote:wtf are Houston doing looking at Gordon for picks? They should be dangling whatever they have left to acquire picks.


Strongly suspect that this is just leaked info to try to set the market for what Orlando is expecting teams to offer for Gordon.


BBallFreak wrote:I just want LaMarcus Aldridge on the buyout market. Release Silva, replace him with LMA. Forget trading for Lowry. Just improve the power rotation. That's all...


If Aldridge is bought out, I suspect Dallas is option #1, then Portland #2.

From what I hear, Miami is high on his list.
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Post#89 » by AussieCeltic » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:06 pm

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Lowry added to the heat or Philly would be a great get for either team. For Philly he’d help in the post season in the half court and with Miami he’d fit right in and be another big shot taker and maker.

He’s a great veteran leader and still can play at a high level. If your saying giving him a long term deal that’s another issue but right now? He’d be a great add for either team

Agreed.


As always there's a cost benefit analysis and a lot of other players that would be great additions for those teams.

But yes if it was for free then sure. But it's not really saying much to say he'd be a great addition because he's not coming for free. If they Raps want to do him a favor though they could take a meaningless asset like a late first.


Contending teams have small windows these days, which makes Lowry super valuable for this season and next for contenders.

Lowry could be massive for Philly, Miami or even Denver without giving up too much.
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Post#90 » by BlueHeat » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:08 pm

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iamworthy wrote:If the heat gets Lowry without giving up to much, queue the undertaker gif.

Raptors won’t trade him to Miami unless we get back Precious + 1st or Herro. Would still be worth it if Miami is seriously looking to make a push again this postseason
Supposedly, the Raptors have asked for either Robinson or Herro.

I would probably consider it.


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Post#91 » by zimpy27 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:09 pm

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Harrell for Malik Monk and Biyombo. Who says no?


That might be close tbh. Problem is that Lakers MO is getting players with minimally decent defense ability. Motrezl is only being offered because of his poor defense.
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Re: Trade deadline report from Shams 

Post#92 » by FlatearthZorro » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:55 pm

CP War Hawks wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
Catchall wrote:FYI -

Read on Twitter


Aren't the Wolves literally a bottom 3 team? If so, you would understand why they wouldn't trade a top 5 pick fo John.


Beasley is a true headcase and Minny is obligated to give GS a top 5 pick either this draft or next. Basically this is a baseless rumor.


Nah, Collins does nothing to move the needle in the right direction for MIN and from everything I've read about him, he's not the easiest guy to deal with either.
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Post#93 » by Spens1 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:59 pm

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This is the trade that needs to be made.


I'd trade Kuzma first.
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Post#94 » by reamily » Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:00 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
CP War Hawks wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
Aren't the Wolves literally a bottom 3 team? If so, you would understand why they wouldn't trade a top 5 pick fo John.


Beasley is a true headcase and Minny is obligated to give GS a top 5 pick either this draft or next. Basically this is a baseless rumor.


Nah, Collins does nothing to move the needle in the right direction for MIN and from everything I've read about him, he's not the easiest guy to deal with either.

But this is nba, you oversell on anyone including collins
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Post#95 » by SerialChiller » Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:03 pm

BBallFreak wrote:I just want LaMarcus Aldridge on the buyout market. Release Silva, replace him with LMA. Forget trading for Lowry. Just improve the power rotation. That's all...


Aldridge alone won't move the needle much for the Heat. Yes they need a big, but they also need another ball handler/scorer, their offense has been horrible much of the season. Lowry as pg can run the pick and roll with Bam, initiate offense, shoot 3s and provide another scorer. He's also a good defender, the Heat need to get him if they can without giving up Herro.
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Post#96 » by JasonStern » Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:04 pm

Bornstellar wrote:I wish the Spurs would just tell LMA to sack up and play off the bench if they can't find a trade partner or too bad. I'm sure they will buy him out in the end but really sucks knowing teams are going to get him for free while we get zilch in return


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Post#97 » by balla345 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:11 pm

lowry and Aldridge to the heat make it happen !!!
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Post#98 » by Jadoogar » Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:49 pm

eyeatoma wrote:Also mentioned that LeBron might be out several weeks. The bigger fear is that he might try and come too early, which is understandable given his age, but also Bron's competitive nature.

Philly should be able to get this deal if they want it. They have more assets. No way that Miami gives up Herro for a potential 2 months rental.

No way the Celtics give up Smart.

Is Evan Fournier going to become the next player that the Ainge almost traded for? Might be a good fit, although they still need a center, "cough" Myles Turner "cough"


Raptors gave up JV and Delon Wright for marc gasol and it worked out well. sixers and heat shouldn't view Lowry as a rental, both will be able to keep him.
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Post#99 » by Jadoogar » Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:54 pm

celticfan42487 wrote:
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None of that addresses my also very valid concerns about trading for a soon to be 35 year old PG and how that has almost always gone for non top of their generation players. Along with him being apart of a team putting up those numbers on a team falling off a cliff...

Believe it or not you can believe a player succeed and me one fail and both of reasons for it be rooted in logical reasons and based on facts.


Sure it does. You said a team would be desperate to add him. How is it desperate to add a near-all star player THIS year to win a title?


How is it desperate to add a 35 year PG? How is that short sighted? How is it questionable how good he'll be in a new system?

Just stop.


Raptors added a super old Marc Gasol and it worked out ok
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Post#100 » by nitocobola » Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:56 pm

SerialChiller wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:I just want LaMarcus Aldridge on the buyout market. Release Silva, replace him with LMA. Forget trading for Lowry. Just improve the power rotation. That's all...


Aldridge alone won't move the needle much for the Heat. Yes they need a big, but they also need another ball handler/scorer, their offense has been horrible much of the season. Lowry as pg can run the pick and roll with Bam, initiate offense, shoot 3s and provide another scorer. He's also a good defender, the Heat need to get him if they can without giving up Herro.

The heat need a lot of things to challenge a healthy nets team.

I really doubt that pat riley is willing to give draft capital and a young player for an expiring veteran like lowry.

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