Trade deadline - what moves do the Dubs make?

[whatisacenter]

I’d go Oubre, Paschall, 2022 1st, Minny 2nd 2021

And I stole this one, but I’m ok with it.

for????

[Old_Blue]

I just want Oubre off this team so I can stop hearing my girlfriend say 'wow who is THAT!?'

I can recommend a very good opthalmologist for whatever is clouding your GF's vision.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Why is anyone trying to trade Wiggins?

Apparently hes the reason the warriors arent a top seed and contending for the chip.

[Onus]

Why is anyone trying to trade Wiggins?

Apparently hes the reason the warriors arent a top seed and contending for the chip.

Oh I’m sure it has nothing to do that our bench is filled with g leaguers and young players

[Crazy-Canuck]

I’d go Oubre, Paschall, 2022 1st, Minny 2nd 2021

And I stole this one, but I’m ok with it.

for????

I assume thats for Gordon. I think that is something I would do.

Hes a PF that is much more of a glue guy like an Iggy or Livingston. He can play PF when Dray plays C. He can also help facilitate and be the PF on the second unit. If Oubre goes the other way, they might ask him to start in certain match ups. Wiggs covers everything 1-3 anyways.

If its wiggins going the other way, I think it hurts. Oubre has been a much worse defender this year both in help and man to man containment than Wiggs has been. Then we are also tied to re-sign oubre at 20+ per year or let him walk thus not being able to replace a player in that salary slot. I think Id rather have wiggs at 30 mill for 2 more years than Oubre at 20-25 mill for 4 more years.

[whatisacenter]

I’d go Oubre, Paschall, 2022 1st, Minny 2nd 2021

And I stole this one, but I’m ok with it.

for????

I assume thats for Gordon. I think that is something I would do.

Hes a PF that is much more of a glue guy like an Iggy or Livingston. He can play PF when Dray plays C. He can also help facilitate and be the PF on the second unit. If Oubre goes the other way, they might ask him to start in certain match ups. Wiggs covers everything 1-3 anyways.

If its wiggins going the other way, I think it hurts. Oubre has been a much worse defender this year both in help and man to man containment than Wiggs has been. Then we are also tied to re-sign oubre at 20+ per year or let him walk thus not being able to replace a player in that salary slot. I think Id rather have wiggs at 30 mill for 2 more years than Oubre at 20-25 mill for 4 more years.

that seems like a gross overpay for Gordon.

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

Wiggins is way down on the list of what's preventing the Warriors from being a top-tier team.

Hmm, thought the idea is dump him for any average to decent starter? You do know he is viewed as a negative value around the league, right? So, realistically, he’ll be with this team until either he has 2 years left in his contract or until he comes an expiring at 27-28 years old.

You realize in about 3 months he’ll have 2 yrs left on his contract, right?

Yes, I just mentioned that in this very post. Right now is the right time to seek a trade for him for someone of equal talent. But, it's hard to facilitate a trade when every team is requesting to include either our Minny pick or Wiseman (Or both, depending on the assets coming to us).

For now, I think we'll make a small trade involving Oubre that probably won't net us anything back of value. Just hoping a team gives up a 2021 late FRP or future pick if they're actually high on Oubre.

[xdrta+]

I don't get why people are trying so hard to get rid of Wiggins. His contract? Who cares? Erasing his contract doesn't help the cap situation. And if posters are right that he's viewed as a negative around the league, we'll never get someone comparable for him. Sure he has flaws, but he provides a lot of value to the Warriors. Yet people can't wait to get rid of him.

[Twinkie defense]

The teams that have late FRP are not going to give one up for Oubre. What role do they put him in? One he has no track record of success in?

The East has seven teams currently ranked #4 through #10 that are only separated by 2 1/2 games in the standings. With reasonable protections put in place, I can absolutely see one of them willing to part with a low first round pick in order to separate themselves from the pack.

Doesnt really address the issue though. Playoff teams pay for top of the line role players... what's Oubre? What does he do that you can count on?

There are a lot of good wings who need to be defended in the playoffs. Just as a 3 and D guy Oubre is an asset - that's why the Warriors are getting calls about him.

[wco81]

So this isn't necessarily for the trade deadline but general strategy or goal.

If the Warriors want to compete against the best teams, the thinking was about getting some wing who could defend, because you have great players that the Warriors have to go through, like Lebron, AD, Kawhi, PG13, Jokic, etc.

But really these players are too good. There's no 6-8 or bigger player out there who will even slow down these players as well as provide good shooting.

So maybe the strategy would be to acquire top level scoring talent, the defense be damned.

I've been skeptical of players like Beal or Lavine, because they're kind of redundant with Curry in size and positional value. They would probably weaken the defense by playing along side Steph while forcing Klay to guard 3s and maybe 4s occasionally.

But maybe they have to look at beating the top contenders like 135 to 130 in playoffs games, rather than expecting to hold these top teams with top 5-10 players under 110 points.

Even without worrying about their defense, not sure how players like Beal or Lavine would integrate with Steph and Klay. Are they going to try to create for themselves while the Splash Bros run around to try to give them space?

If the approach is maximal scoring, maybe instead of drafting Wiseman, they should have looked at the best shooters to space the floor. That might have meant drafting someone like Haliburton, Bey or Vassell at #2.


Nets may ultimately win by going all-in on scoring. Neither Kyrie nor Harden play defense. But they will fill it up.

[Twinkie defense]

I think it's going to be a quiet trade deadline all the way around this year.

[azwfan]

Looks like its gonna cost a 2nd and cash to dump Wanamaker (based on the Clippers / Kings deal). Not sure thats worth it. Maybe we can tie him into an Oubre trade.

[Twinkie defense]

I don't like Wanamaker, but what's the burning reason to get rid of him? There's no reason to dump him unless you need a roster spot (and even then, Smailagić is a more likely candidate to be dumped) or to save on Lacob's luxury tax bill.

[kingcong95]

Looks like its gonna cost a 2nd and cash to dump Wanamaker (based on the Clippers / Kings deal). Not sure thats worth it. Maybe we can tie him into an Oubre trade.

I don't mind cash, and it depends on the protection on the 2nd, I'm hearing it could be top 55.
There are a few targets mentioned in this thread who will require salary filler attached to Oubre.

[azwfan]

I don't like Wanamaker, but what's the burning reason to get rid of him? There's no reason to dump him unless you need a roster spot (and even then, Smailagić is a more likely candidate to be dumped) or to save on Lacob's luxury tax bill.

1. Cause hes a waste of a roster spot.
2. Save Lacob some money.

I think saving money that doesnt hurt on the court should be something Myers looks into (probably already has) as it frees up flexibility with the owner in future years.

Smiley and Wanamaker are the two targets to dump, with Wanamaker being the priority.

Im okay with Smiley through the year now that Poole looks like hes proving me wrong. Im definitely okay having 1 young non-NBA player on the roster, not so hot on having more than 1.

Of course next year there’s Nico, Smiley, Jessup, and whoever we draft so Smiley should be gone next season unless he makes a Poolesque jump over the summer.

[HiRez]

Apparently Gordon asked for a trade, maybe that forces their hand a bit. Sure, they don't have to trade him, but no one wants disgruntled players on their roster, no matter who they are.

[kingcong95]

Apparently Gordon asked for a trade, maybe that forces their hand a bit. Sure, they don't have to trade him, but no one wants disgruntled players on their roster, no matter who they are.

All this does is give the upper hand to playoff teams. Sure, a lottery team could theoretically make the best offer, but what for if they know he'll walk out the door after next year?

[FNQ]

The East has seven teams currently ranked #4 through #10 that are only separated by 2 1/2 games in the standings. With reasonable protections put in place, I can absolutely see one of them willing to part with a low first round pick in order to separate themselves from the pack.

Doesnt really address the issue though. Playoff teams pay for top of the line role players... what's Oubre? What does he do that you can count on?

There are a lot of good wings who need to be defended in the playoffs. Just as a 3 and D guy Oubre is an asset - that's why the Warriors are getting calls about him.

He's not a 3 guy though. He's incredibly streaky. And his wing defense, which is ok on-ball, is pretty bad if it requires him to rotate - especially if he's in a new system. He doesnt seem like he's one to pick up schemes very quickly either

If I were a playoff team and he were our big add, wouldn't be too pleased with it. Better than nothing.. maybe?

[whatisacenter]

Aaron Gordon being linked to the disappointing Celtics this morning. Lurking on the Celtics forum they seem to be down on Jaylen Brown...I would love for the Warriors to be able to get into a three team deal with with the Warriors landing Brown.

[Crazy-Canuck]

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