Free Agency, Rumors, Thoughts in General 2.0

[HartfordWhalers]

So, trying to sweeten while still holding onto Thybulle for defending against the Nets.

Brogdan and Lamb
for
Green, Shake, Maxey 2 1sts and 2 2nds (Best of ABC and NYK) with Philly 2nds routing Poirier/Ferguson elsewhere.

2 prospects (Maxey and Shake)
2 1sts
2 2nds

If any Philly fan sees this, just ignore I included Shake instead of @ me.

Philly would be:
Brogdan / Simmons?
Curry / Lamb
Simmons / Thybulle
Tobias / Scott
Embiid / Dwight

[youngcrev]

If Oladipo isn't moved it is absolute asset mismanagement. And I like most of Houston's moves. He is going somewhere, even if it is to Dallas for 2nds.

Acquiring him in the first place felt like a mismanagement of assets unless my perception of LeVert's value was way off.

[HartfordWhalers]

If Oladipo isn't moved it is absolute asset mismanagement. And I like most of Houston's moves. He is going somewhere, even if it is to Dallas for 2nds.

Acquiring him in the first place felt like a mismanagement of assets unless my perception of LeVert's value was way off.

I'm pretty negative on LeVert. Feels like Monta to me. Horrific efficiency but look, he creates it all for himself! For instance, I wouldn't trade Danny Green for him despite wanting to get a contract past this year of a guard who can score.

So, I think Houston did solid on that part, as I wonder if LeVert can be flipped for neutral value next summer from someone less down on him than I am.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Read on Twitter

whose going to give us 2 2nds?

[HartfordWhalers]

This seems like not at all a surprise; Orlando is arcing down not up.

I posted about 20 pages ago Snell + for Fournier.

The plus being either a bunch of 2nds or the OKC pick that becomes 2nds most likely.

That is still my favorite Fournier deal.

[youngcrev]

If Oladipo isn't moved it is absolute asset mismanagement. And I like most of Houston's moves. He is going somewhere, even if it is to Dallas for 2nds.

Acquiring him in the first place felt like a mismanagement of assets unless my perception of LeVert's value was way off.

I'm pretty negative on LeVert. Feels like Monta to me. Horrific efficiency but look, he creates it all for himself! For instance, I wouldn't trade Danny Green for him despite wanting to get a contract past this year of a guard who can score.

So, I think Houston did solid on that part, as I wonder if LeVert can be flipped for neutral value next summer from someone less down on him than I am.

It stands to reason that he doesn't have a ton of league value based on the trade and the thought that Oladipo was acquired to re-trade... I'm just surprised since my perception of him, while not as low as you, was certainly well below the seeming consensus on him at the time.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

This seems like not at all a surprise; Orlando is arcing down not up.

I posted about 20 pages ago Snell + for Fournier.

The plus being either a bunch of 2nds or the OKC pick that becomes 2nds most likely.

That is still my favorite Fournier deal.

I'm moving anyone with value right now yes that includes TRoss. I'm also firing Clifford at the end of the year and bringing in a offensive minded HC. Clifford has done his job run the path of 2 playoff appearances and that's the ceiling

[loserX]

No real surprise that Fournier doesn't plan to stick around. But combine that with Gordon wanting out and it doesn't look good.

Are these just two outliers? Or have the players in Orlando had enough?

[HartfordWhalers]

Again, I'm nervous but excited if an Orlando fan.

Get some marshmallows and burn it down.

[psimanic1]

Read on Twitter

whose going to give us 2 2nds?

Juat include him in Gordon to Denver trade, why not

[psman2]

No real surprise that Fournier doesn't plan to stick around. But combine that with Gordon wanting out and it doesn't look good.

Are these just two outliers? Or have the players in Orlando had enough?

Playing you whole career with replacement level point guard play would make me want to jump ship as well.

[tiderulz]

No real surprise that Fournier doesn't plan to stick around. But combine that with Gordon wanting out and it doesn't look good.

Are these just two outliers? Or have the players in Orlando had enough?

front office with no real vision. the players cant complain too much, they likely got more in Orlando than they would have gotten elsewhere

time to tear it down and rebuild. but the ownership trusts Martins who is horrible at basketball decisions. until he is removed, there will still be issues

[Buzzard]

This seems like not at all a surprise; Orlando is arcing down not up.

I posted about 20 pages ago Snell + for Fournier.

The plus being either a bunch of 2nds or the OKC pick that becomes 2nds most likely.

That is still my favorite Fournier deal.

I like it. Send one or two seconds. Atl still has expiring contract for cap protection and gets a better overall player. Orlando and Atlanta do not have a good trade history. Maybe they can start one.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

No real surprise that Fournier doesn't plan to stick around. But combine that with Gordon wanting out and it doesn't look good.

Are these just two outliers? Or have the players in Orlando had enough?

have you seen the roster these guys have had to play with the last 3 years. You've got G League dudes on multi year deals, a FO who is allergic to offensive players & a coach whose mehhhh

[Texas Chuck]

I should have put it here instead of trying a specific deal. And I do know better.

Can Dorian Finney-Smith return a late 1st if Dallas needs it for a larger deal?

[HartfordWhalers]

This seems like not at all a surprise; Orlando is arcing down not up.

I posted about 20 pages ago Snell + for Fournier.

The plus being either a bunch of 2nds or the OKC pick that becomes 2nds most likely.

That is still my favorite Fournier deal.

I like it. Send one or two seconds. Atl still has expiring contract for cap protection and gets a better overall player. Orlando and Atlanta do not have a good trade history. Maybe they can start one.

You aren't talking me down:

3 2nds and Snell for Fournier?

Could be done with the OKC pick, but I expect there will be a freak out over the potential of it to be a 1st. Still might be better.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=89565096#p89565096

[HartfordWhalers]

I should have put it here instead of trying a specific deal. And I do know better.

Can Dorian Finney-Smith return a late 1st if Dallas needs it for a larger deal?

Getting a very early 2nd is just sooo much easier.

[Texas Chuck]

I should have put it here instead of trying a specific deal. And I do know better.

Can Dorian Finney-Smith return a late 1st if Dallas needs it for a larger deal?

Getting a very early 2nd is just sooo much easier.

No question. But I don't think that helps because it doesn't have the selling power of a 1st round pick. But I'm putting you down as a no.

[BullyKing]

I should have put it here instead of trying a specific deal. And I do know better.

Can Dorian Finney-Smith return a late 1st if Dallas needs it for a larger deal?

Getting a very early 2nd is just sooo much easier.

And more valuable - or so I'm told

[BullyKing]

I should have put it here instead of trying a specific deal. And I do know better.

Can Dorian Finney-Smith return a late 1st if Dallas needs it for a larger deal?

Getting a very early 2nd is just sooo much easier.

No question. But I don't think that helps because it doesn't have the selling power of a 1st round pick. But I'm putting you down as a no.

I think it's unlikely simply because there are only so many contenders who aren't already in future pick hell and the ones that can easily trade a 1st probably have their sights set on bigger targets.