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kalenclayton · Post #1681 » by **kalenclayton** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:48 pm

Not sure how credible Singer is, but:

Resistance · Post #1682 » by **Resistance** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:54 pm

It seems that if a team takes Bledsoe, New Orleans throws Ball in for free.

Since New Orleans seems to have shopped Bledsoe earlier this season, they should know what the market is for him. The market for Bledsoe must be quite soft if they would rather market a Bledsoe - Ball bundle than trade them separately and apply the compensation from Ball to dumping Bledsoe to a third team.

Post #1683 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:55 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:Does anyone else remember when Chuck got like 4 pages of grief that Bledsoe was as good as Jrue? Poor Chuck.

Giving Chuck grief means never having to say you are sorry....

Because no matter how many times I'm shown to have been right they never ever do. Even today with the captain of Team Bagley acknowledging he has no value he still tried to put it on me instead of simply saying, you know Chuck, you mighta been on to something and not just biased as I insisted.

So no I don't expect this year's crow thread to have one poster in particular owning up to his Bledsoe take either.

eminence · Post #1684 » by **eminence** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:57 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
Smirk wrote:
eminence wrote:I still think Bledsoe could contribute to the right squad.

Having suffered through his play this season, I find it highly unlikely.

Maybe he is just dogging it because he doesn't want to be in NOLA, but you have no idea just how abysmal he has been. Just freaking awful, he makes my eyes bleed.

Does anyone else remember when Chuck got like 4 pages of grief that Bledsoe was as good as Jrue? Poor Chuck.

Edit: To be clear, I am absolutely not saying it was from you. Just read this and start laughing remembering.

Bucks haven't exactly impressed more than the past few seasons yet.

Bledsoe has looked like dump in New Orleans.

Post #1685 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:57 pm

Resistance wrote:It seems that if a team takes Bledsoe, New Orleans throws Ball in for free.

If this is true then its time for Dallas to jump in, take Ball, send Bledsoe to OKC for Horford and call it a deadline.

Post #1686 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:00 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Resistance wrote:It seems that if a team takes Bledsoe, New Orleans throws Ball in for free.

If this is true then its time for Dallas to jump in, take Ball, send Bledsoe to OKC for Horford and call it a deadline.

Great, now you are going to get 4 pages telling you Horford is worth a 1st now.

Resistance · Post #1687 » by **Resistance** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:01 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Resistance wrote:It seems that if a team takes Bledsoe, New Orleans throws Ball in for free.

If this is true then its time for Dallas to jump in, take Ball, send Bledsoe to OKC for Horford and call it a deadline.

I don't know what it is exactly, but New Orleans marketing Bledsoe and Ball together seems unusual when the norm is to unbundle to maximiaze value for the positive part of the trade.

Troubadour · Post #1688 » by **Troubadour** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:03 pm

Since there are enough Lowry trade threads already... Combining the rumour about Danny Green being re-routed and Tyrese Maxey and Matisse Thybulle being involved for Kyle Lowry.

Philadelphia Trades
Danny Green
Mike Scott
Tyrese Maxey
Matisse Thybulle
2021 1st Round Pick (PHI)
2021 2nd Round Pick (NYK via PHI)

Philadelphia Receives
Kyle Lowry

Toronto Trades
Kyle Lowry

Toronto Receives
Tyrese Maxey
Matisse Thybulle
Josh Green
James Johnson
2021 1st Round Pick (PHI)
2021 2nd Round Pick (NYK via PHI)
2021 2nd Round Pick (DAL)
2022 2nd Round Pick (DAL)

Dallas Trades
James Johnson
Josh Green
2021 2nd Round Pick (DAL)
2022 2nd Round Pick (DAL)

Dallas Receives
Danny Green

Post #1689 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:04 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
Resistance wrote:It seems that if a team takes Bledsoe, New Orleans throws Ball in for free.

If this is true then its time for Dallas to jump in, take Ball, send Bledsoe to OKC for Horford and call it a deadline.

Great, now you are going to get 4 pages telling you Horford is worth a 1st now.

That's silly he's not worth a first.

He's worth so much more.

Post #1690 » by **jbk1234** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:07 pm

Hal14 wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Seems like the team best positioned for that would be the New York Knicks.

No, it would be the Celtics since they have a record breaking $28.5 mil TPE.

They're paying Kemba $30M

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Buzzard · Post #1691 » by **Buzzard** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:09 pm

Resistance wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
Resistance wrote:It seems that if a team takes Bledsoe, New Orleans throws Ball in for free.

If this is true then its time for Dallas to jump in, take Ball, send Bledsoe to OKC for Horford and call it a deadline.

I don't know what it is exactly, but New Orleans marketing Bledsoe and Ball together seems unusual when the norm is to unbundle to maximiaze value for the positive part of the trade.

Not to mentions its only 25,000 shy of 28 million in some form of contracts that have to came back. Neutral value is a tough contract to find that most GMs can agree on.

gom · Post #1692 » by **gom** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:15 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:Does anyone else remember when Chuck got like 4 pages of grief that Bledsoe was as good as Jrue? Poor Chuck.

Giving Chuck grief means never having to say you are sorry....

Because no matter how many times I'm shown to have been right they never ever do. Even today with the captain of Team Bagley acknowledging he has no value he still tried to put it on me instead of simply saying, you know Chuck, you mighta been on to something and not just biased as I insisted.

So no I don't expect this year's crow thread to have one poster in particular owning up to his Bledsoe take either.

I cannot say anything bad about Chuck. The season Dallas was so bad (2014-15, right?) Miami lost Bosh, and I remember he was willing to trade Dirk just to get him out of Dallas. Capital to think of the player's happiness first.

Spoiler:

gom · Post #1693 » by **gom** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:20 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
If this is true then its time for Dallas to jump in, take Ball, send Bledsoe to OKC for Horford and call it a deadline.

Great, now you are going to get 4 pages telling you Horford is worth a 1st now.

That's silly he's not worth a first.

He's worth so much more.

It might be worth a late first. Lonzo Ball would be a RFA. He won't likely be maxed and probably be good value. Good player.

Troubadour · Post #1694 » by **Troubadour** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:22 pm

Read on Twitter

Buzzard · Post #1695 » by **Buzzard** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:22 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:Does anyone else remember when Chuck got like 4 pages of grief that Bledsoe was as good as Jrue? Poor Chuck.

Giving Chuck grief means never having to say you are sorry....

Because no matter how many times I'm shown to have been right they never ever do. Even today with the captain of Team Bagley acknowledging he has no value he still tried to put it on me instead of simply saying, you know Chuck, you mighta been on to something and not just biased as I insisted.

So no I don't expect this year's crow thread to have one poster in particular owning up to his Bledsoe take either.

You have several chances on me eating crow on the Collins front. If not traded, Hawks pay the man. If traded, I think he brings a great return. Bad return example would be just about any package Dallas could send minus Luka or KP. No to Green and a future first as a example.

I eat crow if I am wrong. Just throw a dry rub and some Sweet Baby Rays BBQ sauce on it. I am use to it

Kilo · Post #1696 » by **Kilo** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:24 pm

Troubadour wrote:Since there are enough Lowry trade threads already... Combining the rumour about Danny Green being re-routed and Tyrese Maxey and Matisse Thybulle being involved for Kyle Lowry.

Philadelphia Trades
Danny Green
Mike Scott
Tyrese Maxey
Matisse Thybulle
2021 1st Round Pick (PHI)
2021 2nd Round Pick (NYK via PHI)

Philadelphia Receives
Kyle Lowry

Toronto Trades
Kyle Lowry

Toronto Receives
Tyrese Maxey
Matisse Thybulle
Josh Green
James Johnson
2021 1st Round Pick (PHI)
2021 2nd Round Pick (NYK via PHI)
2021 2nd Round Pick (DAL)
2022 2nd Round Pick (DAL)

Dallas Trades
James Johnson
Josh Green
2021 2nd Round Pick (DAL)
2022 2nd Round Pick (DAL)

Dallas Receives
Danny Green

This seems pretty heavy a return for Lowry here to an outsider. 2019 FRP(Thybulle), two 2020 FRP's(Green and Maxey), 2021 FRP, 3 decent second rounders and an expiring Johnson contract. Also Toronto would have to open up three roster spots for such this lopsided move.

Smirk · Post #1697 » by **Smirk** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:26 pm

Resistance wrote:It seems that if a team takes Bledsoe, New Orleans throws Ball in for free.

Not even remotely true.

Kilo · Post #1698 » by **Kilo** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:26 pm

Troubadour wrote:

Read on Twitter

Herro could replace Norman Powell for the Raps so it makes sense he's their target here. They'll probably move Powell at the TDL as well.

Kilo · Post #1699 » by **Kilo** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:28 pm

kalenclayton wrote:Not sure how credible Singer is, but:

Read on Twitter

Word out of Detroit when Pistons signed Jerami Grant was he had a matching 3 yr 60M offer from Denver but wanted to be the #1 option once in his career to see about himself. So it would make sense they want to replace what he brought and they were willing to pay to keep with Gordon and especially Barnes.

Post #1700 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:33 pm

Kinda love Barnes to Denver, and Gary Harris wouldn't be a bad third guard for Sac... if Hield weren't already the third guard.

Who can do a nice construction of it?