Stein/KOC - Heat most interested in Kyle, 76ers/clippers also interested

[Psubs]

Who do you guys like as a better long term prospect?

tyrese maxey or precious achiuwa?

Precious for me. He can be a good small ball center for us.

Precious for positional balance. I'd say both of their ceilings are comparable.

[mdenny]

So I think the Raps could have potentially 3 1st rd picks in the upcoming draft if they get one each for Lowry and Powell.

I still think it is more likely that they turn some of the return for Lowry/Powell into an RFA like Lonzo, Collins, etc. I don’t think the plan is to develop three or four rookies at the same time.

Build up a proper bench mob again. Good bye, McCaw, Stanley, Bembry, Baynes, Matt Thomas.

Flynn, Harris, Maxey, Reed and two 1st picks as the Young Gunz 3.0.

Yep. All locked in at cheap contracts until 2024/2025. The greatest thing about it is that we'd still have cap space to add an allstar if the opportunity arises with all those cheap contracts. The rookies would effectively save our cap space for us.

The way I frame it....if we signed an allstar you can basically add him to the haul we get for lowry/norm as part of the trade return. Maybe not literally....but kinda sorta. We wouldn't be in a position to do it if not for those cheap contracts.

[Rapsfan07]

Miami has lost 3 in a row, so good for the Raptors.

Absolutely good for us.

I expect we've seen both Lowry and Powell play their final games as Raptors. Like I've said a million times in this thread, I think we should just split the difference with them and call it day.

Lowry, Powell, Flynn for Olynyk, Dragic, Precious, Herro and a first/two seconds or something like that.

Lowry is reportedly looking for a 2yrs/$50M deal. Powell would likely re-sign to a contending Miami team for somewhere around 4yrs/$72M. Seems like a lot to spend on these guys but Miami is trying to win now and if I can promise them on thing, its this: spending $43M per for the next two years on these guys is going to be a WAY, WAY better bang for your buck than maxing out Oladipo.

Next, they should package Iggy and something to Memphis to a team for Dieng. Then sign Aldridge off waivers.

Lowry/Powell/Butler/Bam/Aldridge
Nunn/Robinson/Harkless/Ariza/Dieng

I'd love this as a Heat fan, though replacing Dragic for Iggy and just keeping him.

No can do my friend. It has to be Dragic. We're giving up a bulk of our scoring and guard play here, we're going to need a reasonable stopgap in return to hold things down for now.

[BramptonYute]

Gut feeling is Philly steps up and puts both 1st rounders on the table

The only have 1 first rounder right? are you talking about 2021 +2022 first rounders?

2021 and 2023

[NinjaBro]

Lowry is saying he wants a 2/50 deal. That's super reasonable. Why not keep him and pay him ourselves? Bit of a bargain imo

That's what I'm thinking LOL. Some of these trade packages are just pure garbage. Nunn? Achiuwa? Olynyk? Hopefully the reason the trade is taking so long is because Masai is trying to get as many 1st round picks as possible. If I'm not getting multiple first round picks, I much rather see Lowry re-sign with us for 2 years 50M.

watching Lowry retiring a Raptor on a friendly deal for the next few years>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>getting garbage back in a trade and seeing him play for another team.

[Hipster Doofus]

The Sixers offer sucks...it's either the Heat offer or nothing.

Fortunately for hardcore Sixers fans, Elton Brand has left the building and Darryl Morey runs the show now.

[Rapsfan07]

Who do you guys like as a better long term prospect?

tyrese maxey or precious achiuwa?

Precious for me. He can be a good small ball center for us.

Precious for positional balance. I'd say both of their ceilings are comparable.

Going to go with Precious here. Even if he tops out as an energy guy, good bigs are hard to come by. Maxey is a guard and that in an of itself makes him less valuable as there is never a shortage of guards available in the NBA. Add to the fact that he isn't anything special and its easy to see why Precious is the correct answer here.

[DelAbbot]

They were very mediocre last year until the bubble and got carried by the hot shooting of Jay Crowder and the last gasp of Dragic who was awesome. If they are willing to do this then Dragic is in truly bad shape and they’re toast otherwise.

Phillies + Lowry can beat Brooklyn, and championship favourites
Miami + Lowry probably 2nd round exit

Yes but Miami got a ticking clock called Jimmy Butler.

Watch on YouTube

Damn, if only we had a way to trade for Jimmy Butler (with say PS) and pair him with Lowry + OG + FVV. It would have been championships.

[baller16]

TBH, I don't understand why Heat is trying for playoffs. They are now 0.500 and have a -1.4 point differential. If they add Lowry and LMA via buyout market, and can they realistically knock off MVP-level Embiid + Ben? knock off Brooklyn 3 superstars?

If that was the Raptors, I wouldn't want to trade future like Herro or Precious to go all-in the current season. I would wait, try to upgrade the team via FA and trades and the go all-in next season - downside being Jimmy Butler is one year older.

They were very mediocre last year until the bubble and got carried by the hot shooting of Jay Crowder and the last gasp of Dragic who was awesome. If they are willing to do this then Dragic is in truly bad shape and they’re toast otherwise.

Phillies + Lowry can beat Brooklyn, and championship favourites
Miami + Lowry probably 2nd round exit

No one is beating the Nets period. Idk why people keep underrating them.

They've beat all the best teams in the league without a healthy lineup. That team has way to much firepower for any team to contain

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Miami has no picks to offer? I'd think a trade package centered around Achiuwa and a 1st would be enticing for the Raps.

I think they are aiming for someone like Dinwiddie, Lonzo Ball, etc. with a Norm Powell trade.

[Raptors Realtor]

Lowry for Green, Maxey, Bradley, Scott, and a 1st. Waive Baynes, Scott, and Thomas.

Trade Powell and McCaw to the Knicks for Ntilikina, Knox, and a 1st.

VanVleet/Ntilikina/Flynn
Maxey/Green/Davis
Anunoby/Johnson/Watson
Siakam/Knox/Ellenson
Bradley/Boucher

='Ship

That team has next to no offense.

[mdenny]

Absolutely good for us.

I expect we've seen both Lowry and Powell play their final games as Raptors. Like I've said a million times in this thread, I think we should just split the difference with them and call it day.

Lowry, Powell, Flynn for Olynyk, Dragic, Precious, Herro and a first/two seconds or something like that.

Lowry is reportedly looking for a 2yrs/$50M deal. Powell would likely re-sign to a contending Miami team for somewhere around 4yrs/$72M. Seems like a lot to spend on these guys but Miami is trying to win now and if I can promise them on thing, its this: spending $43M per for the next two years on these guys is going to be a WAY, WAY better bang for your buck than maxing out Oladipo.

Next, they should package Iggy and something to Memphis to a team for Dieng. Then sign Aldridge off waivers.

Lowry/Powell/Butler/Bam/Aldridge
Nunn/Robinson/Harkless/Ariza/Dieng

I'd love this as a Heat fan, though replacing Dragic for Iggy and just keeping him.

No can do my friend. It has to be Dragic. We're giving up a bulk of our scoring and guard play here, we're going to need a reasonable stopgap in return to hold things down for now.

By trading norm and Kyle I dont think we really want stop-gaps though. Trading them is an unequivocal white flag of retreat. We want to lose. In a perfect world I would take NOTHING in return for both of them except for futures. Why would we stop-gap anything? Why not just lose and get a better pick? I'm hoping we buyout a contract or 2.

[tecumseh18]

Lowry is saying he wants a 2/50 deal. That's super reasonable. Why not keep him and pay him ourselves? Bit of a bargain imo

That's what I'm thinking LOL. Some of these trade packages are just pure garbage. Nunn? Achiuwa? Olynyk? Hopefully the reason the trade is taking so long is because Masai is trying to get as many 1st round picks as possible. If I'm not getting multiple first round picks, I much rather see Lowry re-sign with us for 2 years 50M.

watching Lowry retiring a Raptor on a friendly deal for the next few years>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>getting garbage back in a trade and seeing him play for another team.

I never want to see the two small PG lineup again. Teams are just shooting over us. If we bring back Lowry, have to trade Fred for a significant asset (a 2 or a 5). Is Flynn ready to be a backup PG?

[Zeno]

They were very mediocre last year until the bubble and got carried by the hot shooting of Jay Crowder and the last gasp of Dragic who was awesome. If they are willing to do this then Dragic is in truly bad shape and they’re toast otherwise.

Phillies + Lowry can beat Brooklyn, and championship favourites
Miami + Lowry probably 2nd round exit

No one is beating the Nets period. Idk why people keep underrating them.

They've beat all the best teams in the league without a healthy lineup. That team has way to much firepower for any team to contain

I know it appears that way but you remember when the Warriors signed Cousins to the MLE and people flipped out. .. **** happens especially this year.

[mdenny]

Miami has no picks to offer? I'd think a trade package centered around Achiuwa and a 1st would be enticing for the Raps.

I think they are aiming for someone like Dinwiddie, Lonzo Ball, etc. with a Norm Powell trade.

They dont have picks until like 2025 or something like that. I suppose there could be some third team creative dealing that could net us a pick from another team.

But I agree with you on Precious and a FRP. That's good enough for Kyle. Add another FRP for Norm and we're golden imo.

One reason I'm more optimistic is that Norm wasn't worth a FRP at the beginning of the season. I remember discussing that and most of us thought 2 second rounders was probably the most we could get. So he played himself into a much better yield and we're selling high.

[Hipster Doofus]

Who do you guys like as a better long term prospect?

tyrese maxey or precious achiuwa?

Granted I haven't seen much of Achiuwa except looking at his stats, I can only offer my opinion by watching every Maxey game as a pro in the NBA so far.

He started off red hot as shown by his 39 point explosion against the Nuggets earlier in the season when he was given playing time due to Shake Milton's injury. Then Shake came back and Maxey lost his minutes, leading to him hitting a rookie wall somewhat. His minutes have recently increased again and he's playing well.

He's only 20, has toooooons of fun playing basketball (always has a smile on), is full of energy (energizer bunny), and has very wide shoulders which will really help as his body fills up in future years.

I'm high on him and so are other Sixers fans. He's only a notch below Mattise Thybulle in my opinion and has a very bright future. His floater is already elite (Tony Parker like) and he can get to the lane for a layup anytime he wants.

[NinjaBro]

Lowry is saying he wants a 2/50 deal. That's super reasonable. Why not keep him and pay him ourselves? Bit of a bargain imo

That's what I'm thinking LOL. Some of these trade packages are just pure garbage. Nunn? Achiuwa? Olynyk? Hopefully the reason the trade is taking so long is because Masai is trying to get as many 1st round picks as possible. If I'm not getting multiple first round picks, I much rather see Lowry re-sign with us for 2 years 50M.

watching Lowry retiring a Raptor on a friendly deal for the next few years>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>getting garbage back in a trade and seeing him play for another team.

I never want to see the two small PG lineup again. Teams are just shooting over us. If we bring back Lowry, have to trade Fred for a significant asset (a 2 or a 5). Is Flynn ready to be a backup PG?

I don't want to see our midget backcourt either but we've been successful with them. Ideally we need to get multiple first round picks and a bunch of second round picks for Lowry and Norm. I like our scouting and player development team. These picks are valuable to us. I just don't like the garbage that is being offered.

[Johnny Bball]

Lowry just killed any deal probably.

Wiretap.

Kyle Lowry wants an indication that any team trading for him is willing to give him a two-year extension worth at least $25 million per year, sources tell the Philadelphia Inquirer.

Lowry is currently making $30 million in the final season of his deal with the Toronto Raptors.

The Philadelphia 76ers and Miami Heat are considered the favorites to trade for Lowry.

According to a source, the 76ers are unwilling to include Matisse Thybulle in a trade for Lowry, but could instead include Tyrese Maxey.

Oh and for the kids that wanted Maxey instead of thybulle... yeah I told you so.

[WeTheNorth123]

Lowry for Green, Maxey, Bradley, Scott, and a 1st. Waive Baynes, Scott, and Thomas.

Trade Powell and McCaw to the Knicks for Ntilikina, Knox, and a 1st.

VanVleet/Ntilikina/Flynn
Maxey/Green/Davis
Anunoby/Johnson/Watson
Siakam/Knox/Ellenson
Bradley/Boucher

='Ship

That team has next to no offense.

Who gives a ****. forget offense. this will help us tank!

This season is done

we win if we come out with 2 first round picks for these rentals

[WuTang_CMB]

If kawhi stayed woulda won 3 in a row. Remember thst. Fkin dummy