Stein/KOC - Heat most interested in Kyle, 76ers/clippers also interested

[agkagk]

They were very mediocre last year until the bubble and got carried by the hot shooting of Jay Crowder and the last gasp of Dragic who was awesome. If they are willing to do this then Dragic is in truly bad shape and they’re toast otherwise.

Phillies + Lowry can beat Brooklyn, and championship favourites
Miami + Lowry probably 2nd round exit

No one is beating the Nets period. Idk why people keep underrating them.

They've beat all the best teams in the league without a healthy lineup. That team has way to much firepower for any team to contain

Lowry, butler, bam, ariza, Avery Bradley etc will clip and cheap shot the crap out of their big three, only kd has the heart to play through it. Harden and Irving will wilt. I’m already looking forward to Irving’s diva temper tantrum - will he refuse to talk to the media? Tweet about his genius? Go to his safe space? Who knows, but lowrys going to hip check him every chance he gets.

Seriously, my favorite Lowry skill: he’s mastered knowing the refs p.o.v so he can undertook and hip check every drive all day long. It’s a thing of beauty.

[Rapsfan07]

Miami has no picks to offer? I'd think a trade package centered around Achiuwa and a 1st would be enticing for the Raps.

I think they are aiming for someone like Dinwiddie, Lonzo Ball, etc. with a Norm Powell trade.

I don't see how that makes sense though. Dinwiddie is coming off of a serious injury and I have Ball as more valuable than Powell since Ball is an RFA and Powell a UFA.

But if NOLA is willing to take Powell for Ball, I'd help Powell pack.

[Spida888]

Absolutely good for us.

I expect we've seen both Lowry and Powell play their final games as Raptors. Like I've said a million times in this thread, I think we should just split the difference with them and call it day.

Lowry, Powell, Flynn for Olynyk, Dragic, Precious, Herro and a first/two seconds or something like that.

Lowry is reportedly looking for a 2yrs/$50M deal. Powell would likely re-sign to a contending Miami team for somewhere around 4yrs/$72M. Seems like a lot to spend on these guys but Miami is trying to win now and if I can promise them on thing, its this: spending $43M per for the next two years on these guys is going to be a WAY, WAY better bang for your buck than maxing out Oladipo.

Next, they should package Iggy and something to Memphis to a team for Dieng. Then sign Aldridge off waivers.

Lowry/Powell/Butler/Bam/Aldridge
Nunn/Robinson/Harkless/Ariza/Dieng

I'd love this as a Heat fan, though replacing Dragic for Iggy and just keeping him.

No can do my friend. It has to be Dragic. We're giving up a bulk of our scoring and guard play here, we're going to need a reasonable stopgap in return to hold things down for now.

I would keep Flynn. If Kyle is gone I want to see what he can offer with more consistent minutes. If we keep Flynn they can keep Dragic and we will take iggy instead.

[mdenny]

Man....WOJ is an enemy to our team at all times. This fool tweeted out that Masai was leaving minutes after we won the chip. I refuse to believe he wasnt sitting on that scoop and released it on purpose because he resented us winning. No other explanation for the timing.

Now he's trying to drive the price down for Kyle. Seriously.....he deserves all of our contempt.

[mdenny]

They were very mediocre last year until the bubble and got carried by the hot shooting of Jay Crowder and the last gasp of Dragic who was awesome. If they are willing to do this then Dragic is in truly bad shape and they’re toast otherwise.

Phillies + Lowry can beat Brooklyn, and championship favourites
Miami + Lowry probably 2nd round exit

No one is beating the Nets period. Idk why people keep underrating them.

They've beat all the best teams in the league without a healthy lineup. That team has way to much firepower for any team to contain

Agreed. I think ppl are downplaying them too. It wouldn't surprise me if they go 12 - 0 to get to the finals. I think it will become much more obvious when the playoffs start. They're treating the season like practise unlike philly.

[SFour]

Man....WOJ is an enemy to our team at all times. This fool tweeted out that Masai was leaving minutes after we won the chip. I refuse to believe he wasnt sitting on that scoop and released it on purpose because he resented us winning. No other explanation for the timing.

Now he's trying to drive the price down for Kyle. Seriously.....he deserves all of our contempt.

he's on the Clippers payroll.....I wouldn't be surprised if Woj send out a tweet soon saying the Clippers are interested in Lowry and they're trying to pick him up for cheap

[Ackshun]

Who do you guys like as a better long term prospect?

tyrese maxey or precious achiuwa?

Neither

Same but if i had to choose, i go with achiuwa!

Yeah me too. Its not even close either.

[agkagk]

Maxey kinda blows.

Is his ceiling more than dj augustin?

Here’s hoping Miami drops their pants.

[tecumseh18]

Lowry just killed any deal probably.

Wiretap.

Kyle Lowry wants an indication that any team trading for him is willing to give him a two-year extension worth at least $25 million per year, sources tell the Philadelphia Inquirer.

Lowry is currently making $30 million in the final season of his deal with the Toronto Raptors.

The Philadelphia 76ers and Miami Heat are considered the favorites to trade for Lowry.

According to a source, the 76ers are unwilling to include Matisse Thybulle in a trade for Lowry, but could instead include Tyrese Maxey.

Oh and for the kids that wanted Maxey instead of thybulle... yeah I told you so.

This isn't exactly new information. It's been floating around for a while. And yet, the Heat and Sixers are still interested. But I would say it favours the Heat, because the Sixers would be so deep into the tax with four max or near max players, plus the whole rest of their roster. Heat have lots of room to bring in and re-sign Lowry and maybe even Norm.

[Ackshun]

Man....WOJ is an enemy to our team at all times. This fool tweeted out that Masai was leaving minutes after we won the chip. I refuse to believe he wasnt sitting on that scoop and released it on purpose because he resented us winning. No other explanation for the timing.

Now he's trying to drive the price down for Kyle. Seriously.....he deserves all of our contempt.

For real. It's crazy how it was literally a minute or two after. Such a weird time to stumble into that piece of news.

He was probably assuming we'd lose and he could announce it the morning after.

[douggood]

Miami has no picks to offer? I'd think a trade package centered around Achiuwa and a 1st would be enticing for the Raps.

I think they are aiming for someone like Dinwiddie, Lonzo Ball, etc. with a Norm Powell trade.

They dont have picks until like 2025 or something like that. I suppose there could be some third team creative dealing that could net us a pick from another team.

But I agree with you on Precious and a FRP. That's good enough for Kyle. Add another FRP for Norm and we're golden imo.

One reason I'm more optimistic is that Norm wasn't worth a FRP at the beginning of the season. I remember discussing that and most of us thought 2 second rounders was probably the most we could get. So he played himself into a much better yield and we're selling high.

miami owes 2021 to OKC
2022 is blocked because of stepian
2023 (protected till 2026) owed to OKC
2027 blocked due to stepian

have zero own second rounders, have 1 second round pick incoming, i think its worst of devner/76ers so basically a useless pick.

Miami cant trade any 1st rounders unless they do a side deal with OKC to get rid of protections on the 2023, then 2025 and 2027 can be traded.

[mdenny]

Man....WOJ is an enemy to our team at all times. This fool tweeted out that Masai was leaving minutes after we won the chip. I refuse to believe he wasnt sitting on that scoop and released it on purpose because he resented us winning. No other explanation for the timing.

Now he's trying to drive the price down for Kyle. Seriously.....he deserves all of our contempt.

he's on the Clippers payroll.....I wouldn't be surprised if Woj send out a tweet soon saying the Clippers are interested in Lowry and they're trying to pick him up for cheap

Even on the absence of something that serious....he knows his markets and how their success is related to his career. It's not a conspiracy theory....alot of these media guys lose interest/clicks when the raptors are successful.

[agkagk]

Man....WOJ is an enemy to our team at all times. This fool tweeted out that Masai was leaving minutes after we won the chip. I refuse to believe he wasnt sitting on that scoop and released it on purpose because he resented us winning. No other explanation for the timing.

Now he's trying to drive the price down for Kyle. Seriously.....he deserves all of our contempt.

he's on the Clippers payroll.....I wouldn't be surprised if Woj send out a tweet soon saying the Clippers are interested in Lowry and they're trying to pick him up for cheap

Even on the absence of something that serious....he knows his markets and how their success is related to his career. It's not a conspiracy theory....alot of these media guys lose interest/clicks when the raptors are successful.

He works for espn. We’re the only team in the league that doesn’t generate espn ad revenue.

[gerrit4]

I’d love to somehow swing Kyle & Norm for Herro & Precious. Not that I think those two are future stars or anything, but Herro can clearly score, and Precious will be a competent big man at the very least.

If we add them and expirings, we’d go into the offseason with Fred, OG, Siakam, Herro, Boucher, Precious, a lottery pick (likely) AND significant cap space. If we could sigb a big like Holmes, we’d really have something to build on starting next season, or at least have some pieces to get another good player.

[mdenny]

Miami has no picks to offer? I'd think a trade package centered around Achiuwa and a 1st would be enticing for the Raps.

I think they are aiming for someone like Dinwiddie, Lonzo Ball, etc. with a Norm Powell trade.

They dont have picks until like 2025 or something like that. I suppose there could be some third team creative dealing that could net us a pick from another team.

But I agree with you on Precious and a FRP. That's good enough for Kyle. Add another FRP for Norm and we're golden imo.

One reason I'm more optimistic is that Norm wasn't worth a FRP at the beginning of the season. I remember discussing that and most of us thought 2 second rounders was probably the most we could get. So he played himself into a much better yield and we're selling high.

miami owes 2021 to OKC
2022 is blocked because of stepian
2023 (protected till 2026) owed to OKC
2027 blocked due to stepian

have zero own second rounders, have 1 second round pick incoming, i think its worst of devner/76ers so basically a useless pick.

Miami cant trade any 1st rounders unless they do a side deal with OKC to get rid of protections on the 2023, then 2025 and 2027 can be traded.

Good point. OkC would be the first call for anyone looking to make side deals.

I find their experiment fascinating. I'm really curious what their execution strategy will be. I mean....they can't actually USE All those picks.

[mdenny]

Miami has no picks to offer? I'd think a trade package centered around Achiuwa and a 1st would be enticing for the Raps.

I think they are aiming for someone like Dinwiddie, Lonzo Ball, etc. with a Norm Powell trade.

They dont have picks until like 2025 or something like that. I suppose there could be some third team creative dealing that could net us a pick from another team.

But I agree with you on Precious and a FRP. That's good enough for Kyle. Add another FRP for Norm and we're golden imo.

One reason I'm more optimistic is that Norm wasn't worth a FRP at the beginning of the season. I remember discussing that and most of us thought 2 second rounders was probably the most we could get. So he played himself into a much better yield and we're selling high.

miami owes 2021 to OKC
2022 is blocked because of stepian
2023 (protected till 2026) owed to OKC
2027 blocked due to stepian

have zero own second rounders, have 1 second round pick incoming, i think its worst of devner/76ers so basically a useless pick.

Miami cant trade any 1st rounders unless they do a side deal with OKC to get rid of protections on the 2023, then 2025 and 2027 can be traded.

Good point. OkC would be the first call for anyone looking to make side deals.

I find their experiment fascinating. I'm really curious what their execution strategy will be. I mean....they can't actually USE All those picks. They'd literally run out of roster spots.

[T-d0t]

Lowry just killed any deal probably.

Wiretap.

Kyle Lowry wants an indication that any team trading for him is willing to give him a two-year extension worth at least $25 million per year, sources tell the Philadelphia Inquirer.

Lowry is currently making $30 million in the final season of his deal with the Toronto Raptors.

The Philadelphia 76ers and Miami Heat are considered the favorites to trade for Lowry.

According to a source, the 76ers are unwilling to include Matisse Thybulle in a trade for Lowry, but could instead include Tyrese Maxey.

Oh and for the kids that wanted Maxey instead of thybulle... yeah I told you so.

Doesn't make sense, Thybulle has more value to Philly this year than he does to the Raps future.

[dgr81]

Read on Twitter

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This tweet by Chris Mannix leads me to believe the Norm deal has already been agreed to but the raps are trying to involve heat/sixers into the deal to make both the Lowry and Norm deals as one big multi-team deal.

[Raptors Realtor]

Lowry for Green, Maxey, Bradley, Scott, and a 1st. Waive Baynes, Scott, and Thomas.

Trade Powell and McCaw to the Knicks for Ntilikina, Knox, and a 1st.

VanVleet/Ntilikina/Flynn
Maxey/Green/Davis
Anunoby/Johnson/Watson
Siakam/Knox/Ellenson
Bradley/Boucher

='Ship

That team has next to no offense.

Who gives a ****. forget offense. this will help us tank!

This season is done

we win if we come out with 2 first round picks for these rentals

Are you insane... Who's talking about this season?I'm talking about going forward, you think 2 late 1st rounders are going to right the ship of our offense. If we don't get tangible players if/when we trade Lowry & Powell we're screwed going forward, and a couple late first crapshoots doesn't change that.

[mademan]

I'm low key excited to watch Lowry on either Philly or Miami. Would honestly root for them if either got him