Stein/KOC - Heat most interested in Kyle, 76ers/clippers also interested

Raptors Realtor · Post #761 » by **Raptors Realtor** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:43 pm

RapsFanInOhio wrote:
Raptors_128 wrote:We need a team other than Philly/Miami to trade for Oladipo asap. Need to add more pressure to their side.

Yes.

That or teams to view Oladipo as plan C with Lowry & Powell as plan A/B.

T-d0t · Post #762 » by **T-d0t** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:44 pm

Herro+Achiuwa+future 1st+filler for Norm/Lowry?

aminiaturebuddha · Post #763 » by **aminiaturebuddha** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:46 pm

Raptors_128 wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Raptors_128 wrote:We need a team other than Philly/Miami to trade for Oladipo asap. Need to add more pressure to their side.

Denver needs to step up with Monte Morris and Bol Bol.

You like Bol Bol? I’m not really a fan, don’t think he’ll be an NBA player.

I tend to agree. I'd prefer Zeke Nnaji rather than Bol Bol in a trade package with Denver.

bon · Post #764 » by **bon** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:46 pm

douggood wrote:
bon wrote:Miami won't budge on Herro which means Kyle's probably Philly bound

Read on Twitter

Welp

Rapsfan07 · Post #765 » by **Rapsfan07** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:46 pm

Lord_Zedd wrote:
mintsa wrote:
OAKLEY_2 wrote:If Lowry won't budge then Raps offer him 3-60 third year team option. Anyone hate two more years of Kyle?

I think your bang on. If he’s dealt by tomorrow afternoon. This is what will happen.

Considering our horrendous track record of FA signings, there are much worse things than locking up Lowry to that contract. Even at his age Lowry can still contribute.

Something doesn't sit well with me paying Duncan Robinson $15-$20 million who can only shoot and the opposing team's favourite target dummy on defense.....

Yeah I'm not interested in Robinson at all. If they're only going to offer Robinson as the biggest asset coming back, we'd might as well take the Philly package and ship Norm elsewhere. There's no shortage of interest in Norm. Norm and Robinson are about the same age and Norm is the better player.

I don't want to re-sign Kyle. Makes no sense for him, makes no sense for us, makes no sense for our guys like Siakam, OG or FVV.

Ranger One · Post #766 » by **Ranger One** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:48 pm

douggood wrote:
bon wrote:Miami won't budge on Herro which means Kyle's probably Philly bound

Read on Twitter

Yeah... Lowry isn't going anywhere.

Rapsfan07 · Post #767 » by **Rapsfan07** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:50 pm

T-d0t wrote:Herro+Achiuwa+future 1st+filler for Norm/Lowry?

Yeah I'm not sure why this is taking so long.

Herro, Precious, Dragic, Olynyk, MIA 1st for Lowry, Powell, Flynn.

They can keep and resign Robinson/Nunn or trade them to get some bigs on their roster. Or keep on and trade the other, whichever is better.

That's better than any package we'd receive for Lowry or Powell individually and a better bang for their buck than maxing out Oladipo.

NinjaBro · Post #768 » by **NinjaBro** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:53 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:
T-d0t wrote:Herro+Achiuwa+future 1st+filler for Norm/Lowry?

Yeah I'm not sure why this is taking so long.

Herro, Precious, Dragic, Olynyk, MIA 1st for Lowry, Powell, Flynn.

They can keep and resign Robinson/Nunn or trade them to get some bigs on their roster. Or keep on and trade the other, whichever is better.

That's better than any package we'd receive for Lowry or Powell individually and a better bang for their buck than maxing out Oladipo.

This feels a bit light for Norm and Lowry. Not interested in the Miami pick that will convey in 2026. We need more first round picks now. Also if they're going to Norm and Lowry, they're going for it now, they would have no use for Flynn.

T-d0t · Post #769 » by **T-d0t** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:53 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:
T-d0t wrote:Herro+Achiuwa+future 1st+filler for Norm/Lowry?

Yeah I'm not sure why this is taking so long.

Herro, Precious, Dragic, Olynyk, MIA 1st for Lowry, Powell, Flynn.

They can keep and resign Robinson/Nunn or trade them to get some bigs on their roster. Or keep on and trade the other, whichever is better.

That's better than any package we'd receive for Lowry or Powell individually and a better bang for their buck than maxing out Oladipo.

Why are we adding Flynn? Im sure that Heat fans would be content with Lowry/Norm

sbsat · Post #770 » by **sbsat** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:55 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:
T-d0t wrote:Herro+Achiuwa+future 1st+filler for Norm/Lowry?

Yeah I'm not sure why this is taking so long.

Herro, Precious, Dragic, Olynyk, MIA 1st for Lowry, Powell, Flynn.

They can keep and resign Robinson/Nunn or trade them to get some bigs on their roster. Or keep on and trade the other, whichever is better.

That's better than any package we'd receive for Lowry or Powell individually and a better bang for their buck than maxing out Oladipo.

why the hell would the heat toss in that FRP? literally makes no sense.

Rapsfan07 · Post #771 » by **Rapsfan07** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:58 pm

T-d0t wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
T-d0t wrote:Herro+Achiuwa+future 1st+filler for Norm/Lowry?

Yeah I'm not sure why this is taking so long.

Herro, Precious, Dragic, Olynyk, MIA 1st for Lowry, Powell, Flynn.

They can keep and resign Robinson/Nunn or trade them to get some bigs on their roster. Or keep on and trade the other, whichever is better.

That's better than any package we'd receive for Lowry or Powell individually and a better bang for their buck than maxing out Oladipo.

Why are we adding Flynn? Im sure that Heat fans would be content with Lowry/Norm

We have to be reasonable guys.

We're already getting Herro and Precious who I'd value at a first round pick each. Dragic still has value and Olynyk still has value as well. Assuming that there is an extension being negotiated for Lowry for another two years, they'd keep him but there's no guarantee they'd keep Powell. That's why I've thrown in Flynn.

Otherwise, you're looking at Herro, Precious (both long term assets), Olynyk and Dragic (that we can re-sign or flip for additional assets) for the expirings of Lowry and Powell (of which they're only guaranteed to keep Lowry). Objectively speaking, that seems wildly expensive, even as a Raptor fan.

T-d0t · Post #772 » by **T-d0t** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:58 pm

sbsat wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
T-d0t wrote:Herro+Achiuwa+future 1st+filler for Norm/Lowry?

Yeah I'm not sure why this is taking so long.

Herro, Precious, Dragic, Olynyk, MIA 1st for Lowry, Powell, Flynn.

They can keep and resign Robinson/Nunn or trade them to get some bigs on their roster. Or keep on and trade the other, whichever is better.

That's better than any package we'd receive for Lowry or Powell individually and a better bang for their buck than maxing out Oladipo.

why the hell would the heat toss in that FRP? literally makes no sense.

Heat are trying to win now...

Asif16 · Post #773 » by **Asif16** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:00 pm

Im glad the Raptors are sticking to Tyler Herro as the main piece. Dont budge from it

Rapsfan07 · Post #774 » by **Rapsfan07** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:00 pm

NinjaBro wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
T-d0t wrote:Herro+Achiuwa+future 1st+filler for Norm/Lowry?

Yeah I'm not sure why this is taking so long.

Herro, Precious, Dragic, Olynyk, MIA 1st for Lowry, Powell, Flynn.

They can keep and resign Robinson/Nunn or trade them to get some bigs on their roster. Or keep on and trade the other, whichever is better.

That's better than any package we'd receive for Lowry or Powell individually and a better bang for their buck than maxing out Oladipo.

This feels a bit light for Norm and Lowry. Not interested in the Miami pick that will convey in 2026. We need more first round picks now. Also if they're going to Norm and Lowry, they're going for it now, they would have no use for Flynn.

They could lose Nunn, Robinson AND Powell in free agency.

But if you don't like the first round pick from Miami, we can keep Flynn and they can keep their first.

But then I think they'd argue that they'd rather send Iggy instead of Dragic, in which case we'd be undermanned at the PG. Unless you think Flynn is ready for the backup job right now.

mintsa · Post #775 » by **mintsa** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:01 pm

Ranger One wrote:
douggood wrote:
bon wrote:Miami won't budge on Herro which means Kyle's probably Philly bound

Read on Twitter

Yeah... Lowry isn't going anywhere.

Yup. If that’s what’s happening behind the scenes. Lowry isn’t going anywhere.

We are going to end up being the ones giving him the most money.

T-d0t · Post #776 » by **T-d0t** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:03 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:
T-d0t wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:Yeah I'm not sure why this is taking so long.

Herro, Precious, Dragic, Olynyk, MIA 1st for Lowry, Powell, Flynn.

They can keep and resign Robinson/Nunn or trade them to get some bigs on their roster. Or keep on and trade the other, whichever is better.

That's better than any package we'd receive for Lowry or Powell individually and a better bang for their buck than maxing out Oladipo.

Why are we adding Flynn? Im sure that Heat fans would be content with Lowry/Norm

We have to be reasonable guys.

We're already getting Herro and Precious who I'd value at a first round pick each. Dragic still has value and Olynyk still has value as well. Assuming that there is an extension being negotiated for Lowry for another two years, they'd keep him but there's no guarantee they'd keep Powell. That's why I've thrown in Flynn.

Otherwise, you're looking at Herro, Precious (both long term assets), Olynyk and Dragic (that we can re-sign or flip for additional assets) for the expirings of Lowry and Powell (of which they're only guaranteed to keep Lowry). Objectively speaking, that seems wildly expensive, even as a Raptor fan.

This is the trade right here. We buy-out Iggy, maybe re-route Olynyk to some other team or cut 1 of our many expiring scrubs.

https://tradenba.com/trades/bb7LPKC4b

DelAbbot · Post #777 » by **DelAbbot** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:03 pm

You let Lowry decide where he goes - what was supposed to be a bidding war turns into PHI/MIA collusion to depress our return.

Spida888 · Post #778 » by **Spida888** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:05 pm

Lowry's salary/destination demands may hurt his trade value. I hope we still get good value for him, but not surprised if we keep him and move Norm because he's got interest from multiple teams.

ItsDanger · Post #779 » by **ItsDanger** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:07 pm

From a business standpoint, 100% do not like what I've seen from Lowry camp. Kind of forcing our hand to our detriment. I'm expecting a low return. Hopefully, I'm wrong on this.

gerrit4 · Post #780 » by **gerrit4** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:09 pm

T-d0t wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
T-d0t wrote:
Why are we adding Flynn? Im sure that Heat fans would be content with Lowry/Norm

We have to be reasonable guys.

We're already getting Herro and Precious who I'd value at a first round pick each. Dragic still has value and Olynyk still has value as well. Assuming that there is an extension being negotiated for Lowry for another two years, they'd keep him but there's no guarantee they'd keep Powell. That's why I've thrown in Flynn.

Otherwise, you're looking at Herro, Precious (both long term assets), Olynyk and Dragic (that we can re-sign or flip for additional assets) for the expirings of Lowry and Powell (of which they're only guaranteed to keep Lowry). Objectively speaking, that seems wildly expensive, even as a Raptor fan.

This is the trade right here. We buy-out Iggy, maybe re-route Olynyk to some other team or cut 1 of our many expiring scrubs.

https://tradenba.com/trades/bb7LPKC4b

That's the one. We get two rotation players on rookie deals, and still have the cap space in the summer to fill out the roster. Miami get two guys who average 18ppg and can shoot the 3. I'd want to push for one more asset - though we could get something for Kelly/Iggy. There's also a move in there where they could keep one of those guys, and use their poo-poo platter of expirings instead (Harkless, Bradley, etc) in order to give us Duncan.