Stein/KOC - Heat most interested in Kyle, 76ers/clippers also interested

[RaptorPride]

I'm not ok with paying Kyle $25M a season. That would eat into a bunch of their cap space and limit their ability to go after FAs, especially the RFAs.

#Loyalty
I'm sure Lowry loves us the fans. But could care less about the organization. He wants his bread and knows he could more than likely gets it.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Miami needs to somehow get a pick in a seperate trade. I don't know if Masai would turn down a trade package around Achiuwa and a 1st

[WuTang_CMB]

Doubt Miami does it - not even a herro fan but that's a good value trade. I think the goal is to get as much as we can for norm and lowry (picks/young players) and then we can turn that into something else quick.

[Zeno]

I feel like part of asking for Herro even though they have their back up to extract an extra 1st.

[anotherhomer]

It comes down to whether Miami and Sixers have championship inspirations this year.
If they do, then they need to pay up for Lowry.
Lest the other team that doesn't get Lowry, see their championship hopes take a hit.

[Kordic27]

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Man, am I the only one who think Tyler Herro is wildly overrated? You look at his stats and think he must be an AMAZING defender to justify the hype.

At 21, with his shooting and shot creation abilities, he's the perfect guy to take a home run flier on.

Still has 2 years until his 2nd contract and then another RFAed portion.

We'd be damn lucky to get someone like Herro for Lowry and I can see why the Heat are saying no.

Though trying to push us to take and then pay Duncan Robinson is non-starter for me.

Not sold on Herro but agree 100% on Robinson... ideally I think you flip him right away to a playoff team. Either way, I think we have to trade Lowry, so it's just a matter of the best package offered at the deadline. And I think we'll all be underwhelmed.

[Spida888]

Why are we adding Flynn? Im sure that Heat fans would be content with Lowry/Norm

We have to be reasonable guys.

We're already getting Herro and Precious who I'd value at a first round pick each. Dragic still has value and Olynyk still has value as well. Assuming that there is an extension being negotiated for Lowry for another two years, they'd keep him but there's no guarantee they'd keep Powell. That's why I've thrown in Flynn.

Otherwise, you're looking at Herro, Precious (both long term assets), Olynyk and Dragic (that we can re-sign or flip for additional assets) for the expirings of Lowry and Powell (of which they're only guaranteed to keep Lowry). Objectively speaking, that seems wildly expensive, even as a Raptor fan.

This is the trade right here. We buy-out Iggy, maybe re-route Olynyk to some other team or cut 1 of our many expiring scrubs.

https://tradenba.com/trades/bb7LPKC4b

I had the same trade idea earlier, great minds think alike . I would try to keep Olynyk actually to see how he fits into our system.

[agkagk]

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Nunn and Duncan really do nothing for us. It really has to be Herro. They have nothing else other than Achiuwa but him alone isn't enough.

whatever figure is on nunn and duncan's next contract i expect them to be either overpaid or just net neutral and not really worth the cap space.

[RapsFanInOhio]

Herro can create shots.

Fred is a great shooter. OG is a good shooter and finisher. Siakam is elite in transition and an okay finisher. None of them are great at creating shots and drawing attention.

Maybe Herro is that, maybe he ultimately isn’t but he’s shown flashes that he can be and that makes him more valuable than most prospects that are out there.

Kawhi’s greatest impact was being able to shot create. The guy could reliably create his own shot. That makes everyone around him better.

[RaptorPride]

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Nunn and Duncan really do nothing for us. It really has to be Herro. They have nothing else other than Achiuwa but him alone isn't enough.

whatever figure is on nunn and duncan's next contract i expect them to be either overpaid or just net neutral and not really worth the cap space.

And here's Miami trying to sell them to us like their assets when in reality they're tryna run away from needing to pay them.

[Son Goku 25]

I love it. Masai saying you want your boy to Jimmy you gotta give us your son basically. I don't value Herro as much but I can see the appeal and potential.

[agkagk]

Nunn and Duncan really do nothing for us. It really has to be Herro. They have nothing else other than Achiuwa but him alone isn't enough.

whatever figure is on nunn and duncan's next contract i expect them to be either overpaid or just net neutral and not really worth the cap space.

And here's Miami trying to sell them to us like their assets when in reality they're tryna run away from need to pay them.

Pat Riley is to basketball what the new york yankee's is to baseball.

all their second tier prospects get overhyped on purpose.

[goinrogue]

I think Miami is going to cave on herro cause I think jimmy will be pissed If they don’t get him now.

[RapsAndJays21]

Hero would be such a good get for an aging Lowry. I hope it happens.

[OAKLEY_2]

Herro+Achiuwa+future 1st+filler for Norm/Lowry?

Yeah I'm not sure why this is taking so long.

Herro, Precious, Dragic, Olynyk, MIA 1st for Lowry, Powell, Flynn.

They can keep and resign Robinson/Nunn or trade them to get some bigs on their roster. Or keep on and trade the other, whichever is better.

That's better than any package we'd receive for Lowry or Powell individually and a better bang for their buck than maxing out Oladipo.

Why are we adding Flynn? Im sure that Heat fans would be content with Lowry/Norm

Flynn and Davis are entry level meaning they are not going anywhere.

[Steelo Green]

I'd be stunned if the Raps come away with Herro. I don't view him as a blue chip prospect, but dealing him for Lowry seems like a shortsighted move on Miami's part.

It depends. By the time Herro hits that stride, the Butler window might be over. Kyle could be the piece that takes them into title consideration.

They need to decide what they want to be.

[Bruin]

I think Norm could be key in getting Miami to give up Herro. If it’s Kyle + Norm, Miami should be able to expand their package, including Herro

[SurgeIblocka]

This is what I have been hoping for is Herro. I am very big on Herro because there is no one on our team that has mojo or star mentality that Herro has. He may not be the perfect player, but this team needs swagger in a big way if they lose Kyle and Herro provides that. Siakam definitely doesn’t have the bravado that Herro has and we desperately need it.

[Steelo Green]

I think Norm could be key in getting Miami to give up Herro. If it’s Kyle + Norm, Miami should be able to expand their package, including Herro

Would prefer Norm goes elsewhere for a protected first.

Not a huge fan of Precious and they don’t have picks.

[OAKLEY_2]

If Lowry won't budge then Raps offer him 3-60 third year team option. Anyone hate two more years of Kyle?

I think your bang on. If he’s dealt by tomorrow afternoon. This is what will happen.

Considering our horrendous track record of FA signings, there are much worse things than locking up Lowry to that contract. Even at his age Lowry can still contribute.

Something doesn't sit well with me paying Duncan Robinson $15-$20 million who can only shoot and the opposing team's favourite target dummy on defense.....

Raps after the recent month should have rumoured that everyone is on the block. Open for business. Everything must go. Then close the fake shop and get back to running tough practices with Nurse having special conversations with players off court. But seriously, Masai does not need another Chuck Hayes trade. Dragic is poor man's Lowry so not interested in upsetting his perfect situation. Not when we have poverty stricken Gasol in A-Baynes.