ImageImageImageImage

Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks

Moderators: Knightro, UCFJayBird, Def Swami, Howard Mass, ChosenSavior, UCF

The Effect
Magic Forum Mock Draft Co-Champ
Posts: 4,877
And1: 2,118
Joined: Jul 09, 2004

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#221 » by The Effect » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:04 pm

MoMM wrote:
The Effect wrote:
MoMM wrote:We add any of them + our injured players + Vuc/Ross and we have a Top 4 team in the East.

Doubt it

Vuc
JI
Cade
Fultz
Cole

with Ross and CHuma on the bench is NOT a top 4 seed. That team is not better then the bucks\76ers\nets\Heats\celtics, so at best it would be a 5th seed, but the hornets are a young team with alot of talent, they likely will be a top 5-6 seed next year, the raptors are down this year, but i trust their GM to rebuild that team quickly, the hawks are in a similar boat as the hornets

SO keeping vuc, ross and vets to met just gets us into the 6-8 range and still way behind the top 5 teams

You are forgetting what we could get for AG and Evan. At least AG should get us a valuable player like Ross.


Evan got us 2 2nd rounders
AG will likely get us something good, but its not like were gonna get back harden or somethng for him
Well likely get a prospect and a 1st rounder

So now change that lineup to cole moving to the bench a mid-to late 1st round SG in its place

Sorry but thats still not a top 4 see

I dont get it, vuc has been here for 9 years, what more can he do for us? This year hes averaging 25/12/4 and we are still a top 4 team in the league. Hes not Lebron or anything. hes a good center who was forced to try to be great

I love him as a player, but hes not a guy you rebuild with
pepe1991
RealGM
Posts: 23,118
And1: 19,158
Joined: Jan 10, 2016
   

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#222 » by pepe1991 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:04 pm

Porter will most likley ask for buyout. Guy might never even suit up for us, let alone resign
Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. -John Lennon
User avatar
rcklsscognition
RealGM
Posts: 22,342
And1: 7,412
Joined: Mar 23, 2009
Contact:
 

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#223 » by rcklsscognition » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:06 pm

Damn we got that scrub Otto Porter Jr too, at least we moved Aminu. Not going to like Vuc going to look good in a Bulls uni. Best of luck to that guy, what a all-around great guy/player he was the entire time here.
User avatar
Def Swami
Forum Mod - Magic
Forum Mod - Magic
Posts: 25,974
And1: 15,371
Joined: Aug 04, 2008
Location: Huevos Bancheros Brunch
Contact:
   

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#224 » by Def Swami » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:07 pm

Read on Twitter
User avatar
MoMM
RealGM
Posts: 10,574
And1: 1,772
Joined: Jan 08, 2002
Location: Brazilian in Barcelona
Contact:
       

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#225 » by MoMM » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:08 pm

Def Swami wrote:
Read on Twitter

Whatever, probably they won't even be lottery picks.
D12VCMagic
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,802
And1: 452
Joined: Sep 29, 2009
     

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#226 » by D12VCMagic » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:08 pm

I’m not sure I like this. I haven’t been that impressed with WCJ since he was drafted. The picks are nice sure, but I want to know if there is any protections on them. Chicago isn’t a lock to make the playoffs this year even with Vooch so maybe two lottery picks for us. Maybe.
User avatar
Howard Mass
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 66,431
And1: 16,326
Joined: Feb 20, 2001
Location: Longwood, Florida
Contact:
       

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#227 » by Howard Mass » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:09 pm

MoMM wrote:
Def Swami wrote:
Read on Twitter

Whatever, probably they won't even be lottery picks.


Both picks will be mid-first round.
R.I.P. Dharam Raghubir (A.K.A. Magnumt)

:beer:
User avatar
MoMM
RealGM
Posts: 10,574
And1: 1,772
Joined: Jan 08, 2002
Location: Brazilian in Barcelona
Contact:
       

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#228 » by MoMM » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:09 pm

The Effect wrote:
MoMM wrote:
The Effect wrote:Doubt it

Vuc
JI
Cade
Fultz
Cole

with Ross and CHuma on the bench is NOT a top 4 seed. That team is not better then the bucks\76ers\nets\Heats\celtics, so at best it would be a 5th seed, but the hornets are a young team with alot of talent, they likely will be a top 5-6 seed next year, the raptors are down this year, but i trust their GM to rebuild that team quickly, the hawks are in a similar boat as the hornets

SO keeping vuc, ross and vets to met just gets us into the 6-8 range and still way behind the top 5 teams

You are forgetting what we could get for AG and Evan. At least AG should get us a valuable player like Ross.


Evan got us 2 2nd rounders
AG will likely get us something good, but its not like were gonna get back harden or somethng for him
Well likely get a prospect and a 1st rounder

So now change that lineup to cole moving to the bench a mid-to late 1st round SG in its place

Sorry but thats still not a top 4 see

I dont get it, vuc has been here for 9 years, what more can he do for us? This year hes averaging 25/12/4 and we are still a top 4 team in the league. Hes not Lebron or anything. hes a good center who was forced to try to be great

I love him as a player, but hes not a guy you rebuild with

Just try one more time, but now adding a baller with a top pick in the Draft. If it doesn't work next season, that's OK, blew it by the trade deadline.
pepe1991
RealGM
Posts: 23,118
And1: 19,158
Joined: Jan 10, 2016
   

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#229 » by pepe1991 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:10 pm

Def Swami wrote:
Read on Twitter


ehh. 2021 will PROBABLY not land in lottery. They are simply too good to not win more games than Hornets and Knicks, i mean they are only 3 wins away from 4th seed :lol: East sucks
ESPN ( Max and SAS ) speculate Bulls are not done with trades, so yea, that's not lottery pick

2023 picks is interesting one ,but again, if Bulls are really gearing up to become serious team, that's another non lottery pick ( probably)

Esencially , for now, it's Wendell Carter and some 14-18 pick in 2021 for Vuc and yet to be determinated 2023 pick
Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. -John Lennon
User avatar
EasternMagic
RealGM
Posts: 15,459
And1: 1,154
Joined: Oct 17, 2007

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#230 » by EasternMagic » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:11 pm

UCF wrote:I wish Vuc well and thank him for his time in Orlando. He turned out the be the best player in the Howard trade and will continue to benefit the team with this trade. The harsh reality is keeping him didn’t make sense and selling high was the best course forward.

Losing Aminu in the trade was an added bonus.

I appreciate Vuc a ton, and will miss him. I don't, however, understand why some Magic fans are losing their crap. This is a glorious tank move, and we got a decent young guy in WCJ, with two 1st rounders. One of which will almost certainly be a mid-late lottery pick. And 2023 could be good too. We're going to have a shot a Cade and some this year.
User avatar
Def Swami
Forum Mod - Magic
Forum Mod - Magic
Posts: 25,974
And1: 15,371
Joined: Aug 04, 2008
Location: Huevos Bancheros Brunch
Contact:
   

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#231 » by Def Swami » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:11 pm

Lift the protections on the picks, and I think it's a solid deal. But the Magic didn't get anyone with all-star upside. And they didn't get any unprotected picks.

The cap space the Magic generated is nice though. Glad we're off Aminu's deal.
D12VCMagic
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,802
And1: 452
Joined: Sep 29, 2009
     

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#232 » by D12VCMagic » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:11 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Porter will most likley ask for buyout. Guy might never even suit up for us, let alone resign


I doubt he stays long term but we kind of need bodies to play games with lol.
Tayswagzzz
Analyst
Posts: 3,321
And1: 1,701
Joined: Dec 12, 2011
Location: Orlando
   

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#233 » by Tayswagzzz » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:11 pm

I’m going to guess these picks don’t even pan out to be lottery picks. Anyone got a positive outlook on this?
Orlando Magic | Atlanta Braves | Florida State
User avatar
Def Swami
Forum Mod - Magic
Forum Mod - Magic
Posts: 25,974
And1: 15,371
Joined: Aug 04, 2008
Location: Huevos Bancheros Brunch
Contact:
   

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#234 » by Def Swami » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:13 pm

This whole deadline feels like an indictment on the last 4 years.
jonbob17
Analyst
Posts: 3,481
And1: 1,440
Joined: Jul 01, 2020

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#235 » by jonbob17 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:13 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
ehh. 2021 will PROBABLY not land in lottery. They are simply too good to not win more games than Hornets and Knicks, i mean they are only 3 wins away from 4th seed :lol: East sucks
ESPN ( Max and SAS ) speculate Bulls are not done with trades, so yea, that's not lottery pick

2023 picks is interesting one ,but again, if Bulls are really gearing up to become serious team, that's another non lottery pick ( probably)

Esencially , for now, it's Wendell Carter and some 14-18 pick in 2021 for Vuc and yet to be determinated 2023 pick



Guess we are going to find out pretty quick how much Vuc matters to winning basketball. He's much better than Carter in terms of production. Should be interesting to see how much he adds to the WIN Column.
The Real Dalic
RealGM
Posts: 17,738
And1: 7,630
Joined: Nov 22, 2009
Location: Orlando, FL
         

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#236 » by The Real Dalic » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:13 pm

I'm personally okay with the move. Nothing special. But not terrible. What I'm most exicted about is not hearing people cry about Vuc anymore.
God. Family. Country. Basketball.
User avatar
MoMM
RealGM
Posts: 10,574
And1: 1,772
Joined: Jan 08, 2002
Location: Brazilian in Barcelona
Contact:
       

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#238 » by MoMM » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:15 pm

Def Swami wrote:Lift the protections on the picks, and I think it's a solid deal. But the Magic didn't get anyone with all-star upside. And they didn't get any unprotected picks.

The cap space the Magic generated is nice though. Glad we're off Aminu's deal.

So our FO is paying to get ride of someone that they signed and they didn't need... Sounds good!
IllMagic04
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,812
And1: 1,873
Joined: Jul 06, 2012
Location: Baltimore MD
     

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#239 » by IllMagic04 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:15 pm

I cant believe thats all we could get for Evan. Our cap situation should be interesting since we didnt take back salary and Otto Porter expiring.


Sent from my SM-G970U using RealGM mobile app
User avatar
MagicTownBaller
Veteran
Posts: 2,884
And1: 525
Joined: Nov 11, 2011
Location: Kingsport. TN
 

Re: Nikola Vučević and Al-Farouq Aminu traded to Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr and 2021/2023 1st Round Picks 

Post#240 » by MagicTownBaller » Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:16 pm

I'm okay with this trade. I hate losing Vucevic but at least we dumped Aminu. 2 picks and the potential of WCJ.
Not changing this Sig until the Orlando Magic win a championship (Technically Started 1-30-08)

Return to Orlando Magic