Trade Deadline Reactions and Buyout Market Thread

Pointgod · Post #221 » by **Pointgod** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:23 pm

turnaroundJ wrote:i just wanna say that trade deadline is one of my favorite parts of the season. where are you going kyle???

The trade deadline is Christmas for basketball nerds

NyKnicks1714 · Post #222 » by **NyKnicks1714** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:23 pm

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:

Powell is a 20+ scorer who shoots 50 percent... borderline allstar

yep another guy that never watches actual games. i would thrist for all of them and pretty much the entire Raptor roster that is on trade rumors.

He’s a good role player, but people are acting like he’s the star pickup of this trade deadline. The man averages 19 ppg, cool, good for 38th in the NBA.

Strange way to assess a player

Post #223 » by **og15** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:24 pm

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:

Powell is a 20+ scorer who shoots 50 percent... borderline allstar

yep another guy that never watches actual games. i would thrist for all of them and pretty much the entire Raptor roster that is on trade rumors.

He’s a good role player, but people are acting like he’s the star pickup of this trade deadline. The man averages 19 ppg, cool, good for 38th in the NBA. Scoring this year is inflated and it’s not a big deal anymore for a guy to average 19 ppg.

Normal Powell over his last three seasons:
59.6 TS%
62.4 TS%
64.5 TS%

Playoffs:
55.8 TS%
62.9 TS%
—- (tbd)

The allure isn’t simply about PPG. Lots of guys can put up PPG, the allure is that he puts up VERY efficient PPG. There’s a difference between having a guy like Normal Powell who is efficient and has shown he can maintain it in the post-season as your 6th man scorer vs having a guy like Lou Williams as your 6th man scorer. It’s pretty understandable why teams want him....

OkcSinceSGA · Post #224 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:25 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
yep another guy that never watches actual games. i would thrist for all of them and pretty much the entire Raptor roster that is on trade rumors.

He’s a good role player, but people are acting like he’s the star pickup of this trade deadline. The man averages 19 ppg, cool, good for 38th in the NBA.

Strange way to assess a player

An even stranger way to assess a player is to claim someone doesn’t watch basketball because they don’t see the big deal about 19 PPG (even efficient). He would be a good addition to most teams, but my point was if he’s the guy holding up league wide trades and with 20+ teams fighting for him, it shows how weak this deadline drop is overall IMO. In previous years you’ve had way more impactful players leading the deadline.

robbie_886 · Post #225 » by **robbie_886** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:26 pm

OKC is the Standard Oil of the NBA draft.

OkcSinceSGA · Post #226 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:27 pm

og15 wrote:
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
yep another guy that never watches actual games. i would thrist for all of them and pretty much the entire Raptor roster that is on trade rumors.

He’s a good role player, but people are acting like he’s the star pickup of this trade deadline. The man averages 19 ppg, cool, good for 38th in the NBA. Scoring this year is inflated and it’s not a big deal anymore for a guy to average 19 ppg.

Normal Powell over his last three seasons:
59.6 TS%
62.4 TS%
64.5 TS%

Playoffs:
55.8 TS%
62.9 TS%
—- (tbd)

The allure isn’t simply about PPG. Lots of guys can put up PPG, the allure is that he puts up VERY efficient PPG. There’s a difference between having a guy like Normal Powell who is efficient and has shown he can maintain it in the post-season as your 6th man scorer vs having a guy like Lou Williams as your 6th man scorer. It’s pretty understandable why teams want him....

I didn’t bring up PPG, that was their premise for attacking me, so I explained why it’s not unique/or special in this year of inflated scoring AND efficiency. It’s nice, he’d help most teams, but he’s far from a star player. Also don’t need to use the most extreme opposite in Lou. League wide efficiency is high right now.

reamily · Post #227 » by **reamily** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:27 pm

Norman powell upon watching toronto games that matter is a bench spark plug at best..anything beyond that is a great sell job by Masai and Raptor fans

turnaroundJ · Post #228 » by **turnaroundJ** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:27 pm

Pointgod wrote:
turnaroundJ wrote:i just wanna say that trade deadline is one of my favorite parts of the season. where are you going kyle???

The trade deadline is Christmas for basketball nerds

the holy trinity has got to be 1. Trade Deadline 2. FA Season 3. Draft, in any order

Trey24 · Post #229 » by **Trey24** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:27 pm

With the Gary's traded, now the question is, will the first Cody to be traded in the NBA Happen today? The Hornets have the only two "Codys" in the history of the NBA on their roster, and I wouldn't be surprised if Zeller is moved

Post #230 » by **og15** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:27 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
yep another guy that never watches actual games. i would thrist for all of them and pretty much the entire Raptor roster that is on trade rumors.

He’s a good role player, but people are acting like he’s the star pickup of this trade deadline. The man averages 19 ppg, cool, good for 38th in the NBA.

Strange way to assess a player

Yes, I’m not sure why we’re just isolating PPG. Also 38th in PPG is not in any way unimpressive for a guy playing 30.4 mpg. If we look per 100, Powell is 27th in pts/100. This is in addition to being 15th in the league in TS% and 2nd among guards in TS%. It’s pretty impressive, so I don’t get the downplaying. Maybe there’s something I’m missing.

Kingdibs19 · Post #231 » by **Kingdibs19** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:28 pm

Post #232 » by **og15** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:29 pm

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
og15 wrote:
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
He’s a good role player, but people are acting like he’s the star pickup of this trade deadline. The man averages 19 ppg, cool, good for 38th in the NBA. Scoring this year is inflated and it’s not a big deal anymore for a guy to average 19 ppg.

Normal Powell over his last three seasons:
59.6 TS%
62.4 TS%
64.5 TS%

Playoffs:
55.8 TS%
62.9 TS%
—- (tbd)

The allure isn’t simply about PPG. Lots of guys can put up PPG, the allure is that he puts up VERY efficient PPG. There’s a difference between having a guy like Normal Powell who is efficient and has shown he can maintain it in the post-season as your 6th man scorer vs having a guy like Lou Williams as your 6th man scorer. It’s pretty understandable why teams want him....

I didn’t bring up PPG, that was their premise for attacking me, so I explained why it’s not unique/or special in this year of inflated scoring AND efficiency. It’s nice, he’d help most teams, but he’s far from a star player. Also don’t need to use the most extreme opposite in Lou. League wide efficiency is high right now.

League average TS% is 57.1%, Powell is 7.4% higher than league average, I’m still not understanding why you are downplaying it. And I can understand that PPG wasn’t brought up by you, but still, he’s a nice acquisitionm what’s the problem?

PD28 · Post #233 » by **PD28** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:31 pm

Man I love the chess games being played at the deadline lol

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OkcSinceSGA · Post #234 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:32 pm

og15 wrote:
NyKnicks1714 wrote:
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
He’s a good role player, but people are acting like he’s the star pickup of this trade deadline. The man averages 19 ppg, cool, good for 38th in the NBA.

Strange way to assess a player

Yes, I’m not sure why we’re just isolating PPG. Also 38th in PPG is not in any way unimpressive for a guy playing 30.4 mpg. If we look per 100, Powell is 27th in pts/100. This is in addition to being 15th in the league in TS% and 2nd among guards in TS%. It’s pretty impressive, so I don’t get the downplaying. Maybe there’s something I’m missing.

I mean he’s statistically a negative defender, poor rebounder, horrible playmaker. He’s a very efficient 19 ppg guy, who does little else. In 2021 a one dimensional player just isn’t worth much more than a good role player designation. Also ask others why they mentioned PPG because I didn’t bring it up, they did. Using that as premise for why I was clueless about his game.

Swag · Post #235 » by **Swag** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:33 pm

I don’t see anything valuable the Lakers can offer the Raptors for Lowry. Keep Lowry or trade him to the Heat

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OkcSinceSGA · Post #236 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:35 pm

og15 wrote:
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
og15 wrote:Normal Powell over his last three seasons:
59.6 TS%
62.4 TS%
64.5 TS%

Playoffs:
55.8 TS%
62.9 TS%
—- (tbd)

The allure isn’t simply about PPG. Lots of guys can put up PPG, the allure is that he puts up VERY efficient PPG. There’s a difference between having a guy like Normal Powell who is efficient and has shown he can maintain it in the post-season as your 6th man scorer vs having a guy like Lou Williams as your 6th man scorer. It’s pretty understandable why teams want him....

I didn’t bring up PPG, that was their premise for attacking me, so I explained why it’s not unique/or special in this year of inflated scoring AND efficiency. It’s nice, he’d help most teams, but he’s far from a star player. Also don’t need to use the most extreme opposite in Lou. League wide efficiency is high right now.

League average TS% is 57.1%, Powell is 7.4% higher than league average, I’m still not understanding why you are downplaying it. And I can understand that PPG wasn’t brought up by you, but still, he’s a nice acquisitionm what’s the problem?

This started when I basically said trade deadline is weak if the headliners are Powell and Drummond. Do you disagree with that statement? I think Powell is just fine as a role player. I think there is a difference between me saying it’s a weak deadline market relative to the past and ripping Powell. I’m just saying he’s not moving the needle a lot for anyone probably.

madmaxmedia · Post #237 » by **madmaxmedia** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:36 pm

ThatBoyNick wrote:
taufblazers33 wrote:Blazers need to make a move soon. I could sense Dame getting a bit restless if Denver ends up with Gordon.

I think the most memorable thing for me this deadline will be how many people grossly overrated AG.

He may break out and develop into a much better player in a new system, making me look stupid, but the player he is today, has been over the last 3 years, is just not that good. Below average starter.

Trade deadline is less exciting version of NBA draft, where we squint our eyes and see the best possible version of whatever guy we are hoping our team lands. But here, it's that 8 game stretch to close out last year, stats per 36, pre-injury, fresh start, blah blah blah.

I do think Denver has done really well though. In the case of the trade deadline it is mostly playoff teams looking to add depth or try to patch up weaknesses, not find a superstar.

dWadeOwnzYou · Post #238 » by **dWadeOwnzYou** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:40 pm

All things are pointing to Kyle Lowry coming to the Miami heat!

Ballerhogger · Post #239 » by **Ballerhogger** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:44 pm

lakers finla offer is Wesley Matthews ,kcp, and deniss... Not fan... should put Horton in there get it done..

Ballerhogger · Post #240 » by **Ballerhogger** » Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:45 pm

Homer38 wrote:

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This is a circus!

ROUND ROUND !!!